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Sens. Cruz, Lee say they won't block deal
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Posted on 10/16/2013 9:58:14 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: ryan71

Thank god for alternative news sources, such as RT.com...yeah, yeah, I know the Russians run it.


101 posted on 10/16/2013 10:41:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sickoflibs
Oh, and I will point out that as of this moment, NOTHING has passed and gotten signed by the President yet.

/johnny

102 posted on 10/16/2013 10:41:40 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: onyx

Guarantee you that Obozo and his family and all of Congress are still except, and any other special interest group that donated’s a few million to the Muslim-in-chief’s democrap party. CommieCare is only for those that can’t afford to buy their out of it. That the haves have special exemptions to this pile of garbage and the have-not have to participate should be grounds for impeachment. But once again, the worthless GOP cowers down like a dog in heat to this worthless POS. We live in a banana republic. Just another corrupt 2nd rate country with no laws.


103 posted on 10/16/2013 10:42:01 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Sub-Driver

The whole defund thing was stupid to begin with. Two, quite large, roadblocks stood in the way (Reid/Obama). There was no reason to think or believe that we could overcome them. None. Our best bet to repeal this monstrosity is to do it by taking the Senate and winning the WH. Will that be hard? Very. But it’s our only true shot.


104 posted on 10/16/2013 10:42:45 AM PDT by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: dfwgator
RT has some great nature and travel documentaries. Their politcs? Meh...

/johnny

105 posted on 10/16/2013 10:42:57 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
RE :”No change. Now we know what happened. The can got kicked down the road to January where we can resume the fight.
It's not one and done. This is an ongoing thing. We still have momentum in the conservative base.”

You flipped 180 degrees

Now you are spouting what you called defeatism just ~ 14 hours ago.

Now its OK a few hours later.

I said exactly what would happen, you called that defeatism. Now you say its a great.

106 posted on 10/16/2013 10:43:11 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Democrat_media

You need to become a little more astute.
We were not going to stop Obamacare with this method, not after the ENTIRE GOP establishment cabal turned on the effort.
Cruz would have simply been whistling past the graveyard with another filibuster, and would probably have ended up damaging the defund effort, since although the US would not default, we would be downgraded for all this chaos.

The results of this entire debacle were twofold.

A) Obama and his law’s favorables have tanked
B) We have the invaluable senate votes taken by Pryor, Landreaiu, Hagan and Begich to smash them with in 2014.


107 posted on 10/16/2013 10:43:14 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Mr. K

PRECISELY. Boehner is being allowed to skate by, when he should be DEPOSED!


108 posted on 10/16/2013 10:44:02 AM PDT by Viennacon
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Please keep ‘em coming! Thank you all very much!

109 posted on 10/16/2013 10:44:45 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: sickoflibs
No, I'm not embracing defeat. Since, as I pointed out, nothing has actually passed and been signed yet. If this deal is what happens, we still get to fight. It's not one and done. The struggle continues.

/johnny

110 posted on 10/16/2013 10:45:05 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jersey117

Kos Kiddies are already aghast at their premiums


111 posted on 10/16/2013 10:45:06 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Hey I’m just extremely angry and feel betrayed by boner etc.

I just posted one comment.

I thought we were finally getting somewhere by shutting the gov down, the protests by the truckers, etc. and now this. just feel devastated


112 posted on 10/16/2013 10:47:23 AM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Theoria

so it’s now on the house. on the phones as we speak. we need to extract every last bit of information on boehner’s vote.


113 posted on 10/16/2013 10:49:08 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: Democrat_media

It’s alright. We’ll have the last laugh when all is said and done.


114 posted on 10/16/2013 10:49:08 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Democrat_media
It's one battle in a big war. Take heart. They only kicked the can down the road until January. We get to do this again then.

/johnny

115 posted on 10/16/2013 10:49:27 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mojito; RIghtwardHo

In a funk, because two men in the Senate can’t run off a body full of socialist Republicans and Marxist Democrats from making a deal, and then single handedly herding from their senate seat a House leadership full of long time squishes?

Take you’re whine to the media tavern for your face time and camera shots. You will all fit in nicely on the victim channel pointing your powdered finger at patriots.

Poor you.


116 posted on 10/16/2013 10:49:49 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Viennacon

This is such a bad law. Ted Cruz truly fought a good fight. Healthcare and personal finances for over 300 million people is going to affected by this. Senator Cruz tried to stop it in the eleventh hour. It’s hard to pull off something big like this when you have your own party stabbing you in the back. During the next major elections, we will the advantage of saying “we told you so”. Hopefully that will enable us to get rid of the socialists once and for all.


117 posted on 10/16/2013 10:49:50 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: JRandomFreeper
RE :”Oh, and I will point out that as of this moment, NOTHING has passed and gotten signed by the President yet.
/johnny “

You also said

It's not over. It's just delayed until January.
12 posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:04:13 PM by JRandomFreeper

You should be much more polite than you are to others since you so regularly contradict yourself.

118 posted on 10/16/2013 10:51:08 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: rarestia

The income verification was already in the law so they got NOTHING.


119 posted on 10/16/2013 10:51:36 AM PDT by sheana
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To: justice14; Sub-Driver
The whole defund thing was stupid to begin with.

Like hell it was!

It smoked out the collaborators, those who talk a good game but really weren't going to do anything to stop Obamacare, and it setup 2014 for a massive Tea-Party win just like 2010.
120 posted on 10/16/2013 10:51:45 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Sub-Driver

Is it OK to blink now ???

LOL


121 posted on 10/16/2013 10:52:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: onyx
Rush Limbaugh is going to play that famous clip wherein Alan Dershowitz describes Ted Cruz as one of the smartest and the most principled law students to EVER have gone through Harvard.

Alan Dershowitz on Ted Cruz ...

122 posted on 10/16/2013 10:52:14 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: JRandomFreeper

True but if Cruz and Lee aren’t gonna block it, it looks like the chances that the House as a whole will reject this bill are getting smaller and smaller by the minute.

It is true, this means conservatives simply need to gear up for the next round and come back harder next time.


123 posted on 10/16/2013 10:52:23 AM PDT by freedom462
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To: Parley Baer

Some times you must think out side the box. Cruz could not stop this event from happening only delay it for at least a little more than a day. When Obama Care starts to change their lifestyles and effects their incomes, maybe just maybe we might see change.


124 posted on 10/16/2013 10:52:27 AM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Democrat_media

And that is Pelosi’s “relaxed face.”


125 posted on 10/16/2013 10:52:45 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"The deal...would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt-ceiling until February."

Heh, heh. Rumors of exaggeration started by chicks are cute.


126 posted on 10/16/2013 10:53:11 AM PDT by familyop
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To: sickoflibs
Nope. I'll continue to call 'em like I see 'em.

Nothing has actually passed and been signed, but if the deal is as said, and goes through, then it's just until January.

I'll keep fighting, and not hoping for a cave like some here on FR seem to do.

/johnny

127 posted on 10/16/2013 10:54:18 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: freedom462
They couldn't have blocked it for more than 30 hours.

/johnny

128 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:16 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: onyx

Yup. Every time I think there’s a glimmer of hope they roll over.

On a financial website I frequent they just had an article titled “Conservatives fight their modern day Alamo... And lose again!”.

Didn’t read the article but can’t say I disagree with the title.

We’re toast.


129 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:23 AM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: Viennacon

We will?

I say that because right at this point in time, barring nothing less than a Red Sea-class miracle from the hand of Almighty God (and I doubt He will because this country has pretty much spit in His face for last 3 decades), it certainly looks like the Dark Side has won.

Oh well, at least we get to enjoy Thanksgiving and Christmas...and so do the parasites (using our money to pay for their turkeys and trimmings)....


130 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:31 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Democrat_media

Don’t come to Canada, it’s worse. Rather than going somewhere, I think it’s
time to make a stand for freedom.


131 posted on 10/16/2013 10:55:53 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Sub-Driver
McLame: "We're in a hole, we have to dig out and come up with a positive agenda."

Positive Agenda = More Government Spending

More Government Spending = Deeper Hole

132 posted on 10/16/2013 10:56:30 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Democrat_media

Why? We’re not going anywhere. We buck up our friends and we hammer domestic enemies. We sabotage communists where we find them. One battle does not make a war.

Get strong, get local.


133 posted on 10/16/2013 10:56:53 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: SouthParkRepublican
We’re toast.

Only if you give up. How is the senate election going in NJ today?

/johnny

134 posted on 10/16/2013 10:56:55 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Viennacon; Democrat_media; RIghtwardHo; Lazamataz
I’m hoping these two libtards who are trolling FR get booted soon.

It would seem that there is no defense or explanation from the offending posters?

                                         "Well .......... we're waiting!"

135 posted on 10/16/2013 10:59:39 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Sub-Driver
"I hope it is another 15 years at least before we have to go through this exercise again," McCain said. "We're in a hole, we have to dig out and come up with a positive agenda."

I'm sorry, McLame. Are you talking about the country as a whole or are you talking about your pathetic GOPe surrender monkeys?

How do you dig out of a hole when you keep digging it deeper?

136 posted on 10/16/2013 11:00:28 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

God bless you and thank you so much, dearest Servant of the Cross!


137 posted on 10/16/2013 11:01:33 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Sub-Driver
The deal reached by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) would fund the government through Jan. 15 and raise the debt-ceiling until February. It would require income verification for subsidies under ObamaCare, but otherwise leave the helathcare law untouched.

Funny, nothing in this sentence says "compromise" to me. What did the Dems give up?

138 posted on 10/16/2013 11:01:34 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Viennacon
Hardly?

Let's see. In this thread alone they (especially Cruz) have been called useless, morons, paper tiger, yapper, a useless twit, not a man.

Reminds me of the definition of a RINO: Someone who disagrees with you on any single thing or does anything you disagree with regardless of how insignificant.

139 posted on 10/16/2013 11:01:35 AM PDT by newheart (The worst thing the Left ever did was to convince the world it was not a religion.)
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To: RitaOK
Take you’re whine to the media tavern for your face time and camera shots. You will all fit in nicely on the victim channel pointing your powdered finger at patriots.

Under Senate rules, two Senators might not be able to stop the coup that is taking place, but they might be able to use their "face time" to point it out. Cruz has opted to give Harry Reid what he wants. If you're not disappointed by that, then I'm sure that you'll enjoy all the surrenders to come.

140 posted on 10/16/2013 11:01:37 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: SoConPubbie

If that was your goal, then yeah, I guess you won. Congrats.


141 posted on 10/16/2013 11:02:45 AM PDT by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: Parley Baer
There is nothing Ted Cruz can do to stop it in the Senate. Maybe postpone it for a few days but that is it. Go Ted.

This statement is correct. Ted knows he has to marshall his resources for the next fight....
142 posted on 10/16/2013 11:03:24 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"We left a lot on the table because we couldn't get our act together, but this is the best Mitch could do," said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who will vote for the deal. "We need to stop the bleeding, lessen the damage to the party."

FULG and FUGOPe. McConnell's "best" isn't good enough. Primary his ass out.

143 posted on 10/16/2013 11:03:52 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Democrat_media

Cruz/Lee did an outstanding job. Alone in the wilderness they held firm in what they believed in until there was no reason not to. They pulled a large portion of the nation to our side, whether anyone on here wants to see that or not. They did not bow to the media powerbrokers. They also presented themselves in an ethical and professional manner throughout the entire crisis. No other republican in the senate or single democrat can state they did the same. In fact, most of the rino senators and all the dems did exactly the opposite - blackmailed by the media, unethical behavior including gossip/lies, no regard for the desires of the citizenry, etc.

Revolutions come in various forms, as we have recently been reminded of throughout the middle east. My prayer is for a peaceful revolution and transition to a constitutional government. For too long the people of America have been controlled by a tyrannical oligarchy bordering on fascism. We have been lied to, spied on, our material wealth stolen without cause. And the freedoms granted to us by our Creator are in the process of being crushed into the ground. A peaceful revolution, one that brings us a freedom based constitutional government must be our first cause. Do not be distracted by small fires around the perimeter. Stay focused on the core issue at hand - the founding of a freedom based constitutionally sound and minimal government.


144 posted on 10/16/2013 11:04:39 AM PDT by Colehill1999 (Revolution is a dish best served cold)
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To: dfwgator
The French could take lessons on how to surrender from the GOP.

Yes, indeed.

145 posted on 10/16/2013 11:04:52 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

RIghtwardHo
Since Jun 5, 2011

IBTZ


146 posted on 10/16/2013 11:04:56 AM PDT by Gator113 (Ted Cruz is settled law.)
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To: justice14

Republicans had both Houses of Congress as well as the presidency not too long ago. How did that work out?


147 posted on 10/16/2013 11:05:04 AM PDT by DangerZone (If the left had their way, all of America would be as safe as Sandy Hook Elementary.)
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To: mojito; RitaOK
Under Senate rules, two Senators might not be able to stop the coup that is taking place, but they might be able to use their "face time" to point it out. Cruz has opted to give Harry Reid what he wants. If you're not disappointed by that, then I'm sure that you'll enjoy all the surrenders to come

What a nit-picking wuss you are.

Senators Cruz and Lee have stood up to the worst kind of beating from both the Left and their supposed side of the aisle, all the while standing for what we sent the to Congress to stand for and they decide that nothing material can be done at this point so they let the process go forward and like the ninny you are, you want to complain about this?

I'm surprised at you.

It is simply deplorable how our side rolls over and plays dead at the first sign of adversity.

I would not want you beside me in battle, I'd be afraid that at the first sign of the battle going the wrong way, just when I needed you most, you would turn tail and run!
148 posted on 10/16/2013 11:06:48 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Huh? He’s the only one leading. He’s just one man, and this was just the opening act. He’s one of the most talented lawyers in the nation, and this was his opening statement. Where do you turn now since you’ve dismissed Cruz? Who’s doing more?


149 posted on 10/16/2013 11:09:51 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: RIghtwardHo
his (Cruz's) non-filibuster was just show to get him nominated in 2016

I week ago I might have argued with you about that. Now I'm sure that you're right.

150 posted on 10/16/2013 11:10:15 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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