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1 posted on 10/16/2013 7:20:30 AM PDT by VideoPaul
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These same people are going to be the ones CONTROLLING our healthcare...encouraging.


2 posted on 10/16/2013 7:24:30 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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I don’t have any more information about how much money I’ll save on my premiums
"how much money I’ll save on my premiums" LOL ... now that's funny!
3 posted on 10/16/2013 7:25:21 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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If the wait time on the Live Chat has fallen from 45 minutes to almost none, that tells me people are giving up and not even bothering to phone in for help.


5 posted on 10/16/2013 7:33:13 AM PDT by Shannon
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GOVERNMENT WARNING:

If you were able to complete the ObamaCare form online, it wasn't a legitimate government website; you should report online fraud and change all your passwords.

HT/ www.peoplescube.com

6 posted on 10/16/2013 7:34:27 AM PDT by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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Taxpayers were ripped off a staggering $634 million (that we know of) for setting-up the amateurish Obamacare sign-up web site----more than that of LinkedIn and Spotify combined-----the site already been shut down once for repairs....problems persist.

INCONVENIENT FACTOID one story surfaced last week that the same crew that got the contract for the ObamaCare website were former data/media/social media people from the Obama campaign.

INCONVENIENT FACTOID Toni Townes-Whitley, Senior Vice President at CGI Federal for Civilian Agency programs, is Princeton Class of 1985---same dumbed-down class as Michelle Obama. Both are members of Association of Black Princeton Alumni.

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A GLIMPSE OF WHAT'S TO COME A November 30, 2012 Cato.com report indicated the Insurance Exchanges will cost Twice What it Costs to Administer Medicare (NOT what the WH twit told Americans).

ONE STATE'S LAUNCH--- In March 2013 CATO.COM reported "The Cost to Launch the California Health Insurance Exchange is $910 million".

So far (2012) California has received $910 million in federal grants to launch its new health insurance exchange under the Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare"). The California exchange, "Covered California," has so far awarded a $183 million contract to Accenture to build the website, enrollment, and eligibility system and another $174 million to operate the exchange for four years.

The state will also spend $250 million on a two-year marketing campaign. By comparison California Senator Barbara Boxer spent $28 million on her 2010 statewide reelection campaign while her challenger spent another $22 million.

The most recent installment of the $910 million in federal money was a $674 million grant. The exchange's executive director noted that was less than the $706 million he had asked for. "The feds reduced the 2014 potential payment for outreach and enrollment by about $30 million," he said. "But we think we have enough resources on hand to do the biggest outreach that I have ever seen."

For additional perspective....private insurance marketing site, Esurance sells not only health insurance but also things like homeowners and auto insurance across the country......author put his zip code into their system along with his age, they offered him 87 different health plans from all the big players in my area.

Now granted, the new health insurance exchanges are more complex because they have to interface with Medicaid and the IRS as well as calculate subsidies. But the order of magnitude difference in what it cost to launch esurance compared to the California exchange is pretty big.

Privately funded Esurance began its multi-product national web business in 1998 with an initial $5.5 million round of venture fund investment in 1999 and a second round of $34 million a few months later.

The start-up experience of other major web companies is also instructive. Facebook received $13.7 million to launch in 2005. eBay was founded in 1995 and received its first venture money in 1997––$6.7 million.

Even doubling these private investments for inflation still leaves quite a gap.

SOURCE http://www.cato.org/blog/californias-obamacare-exchange-costs-56-times-more-launch-facebook

8 posted on 10/16/2013 7:36:43 AM PDT by Liz
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I don’t know how much can be saved on Obamacare premiums, but the deductibles make having the insurance worthless.


9 posted on 10/16/2013 7:37:24 AM PDT by pallis
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Ah... this is the first verification that I’ve seen...

“income” and “race” were asked on the website.

These will be used to determine if you get covered or not.
Guaranteed.


10 posted on 10/16/2013 7:37:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Thanks for reporting. Very eye-opening.


14 posted on 10/16/2013 7:47:26 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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Thanks for your post. Please ping me if you post updates

Now about this part-This morning, I was told again that the system had “glitches” and was told again to try the phone number instead

I refused to call the number for the following reasons:


I don't know if acorn (or insert the name of this obama cohort organization)is actually taking the calls.

I've read that the navigators will be getting $48.00 per person they sign up. If the navigators (cohorts of Obama-etc) are answering those phones, and helping me to sign up, they will be making out like fat rats.

I refuse to help them get paid off even more for forcing me to buy insurance.

Great way to steer people to their cronies by making people call them for help.
16 posted on 10/16/2013 8:00:58 AM PDT by novemberslady
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Your experience is exactly the same as mine.. exactly..

Couple notes.

I called and talked to a person (she was nice), but she couldn’t provide an escalation path. She is sending me a hard copy to apply via mail. It’s been 10 days and I’ve not received it. (She did tell me that she knew of no one who had successfully signed up..)

Chatting online is worthless..

I’ve talked to another woman who tried really hard to get me a number to give experian, but was unable to get through to ‘tech support’.. Nor did she know who were the actual people who would look at the drivers license scan I uploaded. Again, no escalation path.

I have sent a picture of my drivers license to a location in Kentucky. Who knows what they’ll do with it


19 posted on 10/16/2013 8:04:39 AM PDT by tje
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Great post - thanks. And condolences.


21 posted on 10/16/2013 8:05:34 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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My friend..ahem..made it to the verify your identity BS and I said BS.

You should not have to be giving up all this info just to get a quote since they can only go by your age and a few other pieces of info.

You should be able to get a quote on BASIC parameters not your whole damn history.

You could go to ehealth insurance and get a quote without verifying identity and giving a social security number. It might not be the exact quote but it was close enough.

Now the govt steps in and gives your info over to people who have arrest warrents and illegal aliens.


23 posted on 10/16/2013 8:09:14 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Were you asked if you had purchased health insurance for any of your pets? I asked that because in the DUmmie FUnnies I posted a KOmmie thread in which a Kommie stated he had been asked that info about a cat he owns.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 8:14:13 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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Oh man, there is a connection to O’CommieCare and CGI which is directly responsible for this fiasco and folks it is a pattern with this Canadian POS.

Pierre Karl Peladeau is an absolute scum bucket who single-handedly destroyed a company I worked for as Director Of Engineering. He took over Quebecor Printing (which at the time was the World’s largest Commercial Printer) after his father died and ran it into the ground all while getting over $6 Million/year in bonuses even when it went bankrupt.

I found a story link from the Montreal Gazette:
Prominent businessman Pierre Karl Peladeau, who is chairman of the ... Canadian tech firm CGI at center of U.S. Obamacare glitch.


26 posted on 10/16/2013 8:28:56 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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Your rate will be about $100 a month, less than a cell phone bill. Obama told me so.


27 posted on 10/16/2013 8:45:56 AM PDT by sheana
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I would suspect that all your personal information is now in Bangladesh, Nigeria, Afghanistan, Pakistan & other hotbeds of Identity Theft & fraud.

Watch all of your credit card statement & all your credit reports very carefully until you die.

Good Luck.


31 posted on 10/16/2013 9:38:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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They don't WANT you to be able to sign up just now.

if more people actually signed up, and actually got to see the premiums and deductables they would have to pay, and the actual terms and conditions, then the Republicans would have more people supporting their efforts to abolish Obamacare.

They don't want you to see the real numbers until AFTER it's too late.

34 posted on 10/16/2013 9:44:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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Like everyone, I’m eventually going to need to see a doctor.
Good luck with that 56% of doctors are not going to be in the ACA.


36 posted on 10/16/2013 10:11:54 AM PDT by Vaduz
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The Experian number prompts for a reference number, which the Obamacare web site hasn’t given me. When I admit that I don’t have a reference number, the call is terminated. Back on the phone I go to the Obamacare call center. The representative that I talked to tried to help but couldn’t explain why I hadn’t been given a reference number.

Sounds like it's time to rent Brazil again. This bit sounds like Jill getting the runaround about whether Mr. Buttle's paperwork has been stamped.

37 posted on 10/16/2013 10:17:25 AM PDT by Vroomfondel
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I would like to hear “the rest of the story” as it evolves. Will you consider starting a ping list, and adding me to it, please?


38 posted on 10/16/2013 11:43:04 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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