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To: smokingfrog
House Republicans are in trouble.

We all would have been in trouble if they'd voted for this thing.

18 posted on 10/15/2013 4:47:17 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: MulberryDraw

House Republicans are in trouble.

We all would have been in trouble if they’d voted for this thing.


You are right.

Most people are not getting to the heart of the matter. They are hung up on tangents, like the cost of their insurance under obumbler care.

The real heart of the matter is that this is really a contest as to how our government will be run from now on and who will run it.

The founders intended, and the Constitution makes it very plain, that the congress would pass all laws and the president would be the executive that faithfully carried out the wishes of congress.

If a law was so repugnant that the president could not sign, he could veto it.

The congress could then vote to over ride or they could let the veto stand.

All of that makes it obvious the intent of the founders and the intent of the Constitution.

Also requiring that all money bills must originate in the house made it possible that the rest of the government could not run away with the government.

So the president calling the senate to the liar’s house to discuss passing money bills is not what the constitution calls for.

The way this should work and what the house should do is send the senate a bill.

The senate can pass it, in which case it goes on to the liar’s house. If he vetoes it, that is that. The bill is dead unless the congress over rides.

If the senate does not pass it or if they do not over ride, then it is dead.

The house should write the bill they want and send it on its way. If the senate and the president don’t sign on to it, then the house should either revise the bill or go home and let the government shut down.

To do anything else turns the government over to the liar’s house.

Defunding obumbler care is the tool to force obumblers hand.

The patches the rinos are discussing are not even worthy of being called band aids. Making the congress and obumbler live under obumbler care does not address the problems in the IRS role, the “navigators”, the insurance costs and the unreasonable coverages forced by bureaucrats, the health professionals leaving the system, the graft and corruption the in the system, the potential for identity theft and worse and maybe worst of all, the death panels...whether overt or by omission of care.

The whole thing must be scrapped and started over.


53 posted on 10/15/2013 5:56:25 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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