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House vote pulled, chaos continues
Politico ^ | 10-15-13 | By JAKE SHERMAN, BURGESS EVERETT, JOHN BRESNAHAN and SEUNG MIN KIM

Posted on 10/15/2013 4:35:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog

House Republicans are in trouble.

GOP leadership pulled their bill to open the government and lift the debt ceiling because they didn’t have the votes to squeeze it through the chamber.

There will be no vote Tuesday, which means Washington will have one day to lift the debt ceiling before the U.S. government reaches its borrowing limit.

It’s unclear what Speaker John Boehner’s team will do next. This could, once again, sideline the House and kick action over to negotiations between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). The U.S. government reaches its debt limit on Thursday and the government has been shut down for more than two weeks.

The bill that was pulled because of flagging support would’ve reopened the government until Dec. 15, lifted the debt ceiling until Feb. 7, while forcing everyone from the president to Capitol Hill staffers to pay more for their health insurance.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; bunglebarry; debtceiling; homoselectus; obamacaves; shutdown
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“Somehow we’re surviving.”

According to the Communist News Network (CNN)and their inbred cousins at PMSNBC, the apocalypse is upon us.

Just like with the sequester non-event, no one will notice.


41 posted on 10/15/2013 5:11:38 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: smokingfrog

Tsar Bozok wants this to collapse the system and abandon the Consitution....look for a doggy wag tomorrow to really screw things up...just sayin.


42 posted on 10/15/2013 5:15:01 PM PDT by Shady (It is called LIBERTY...Freedom linked to Responsibility. Any questions?)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

NRO’s the Corner has become a pathetic respite for RINOs. They act as if the sky is falling over there because the House did not pass a bill.


43 posted on 10/15/2013 5:15:32 PM PDT by mrs9x
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To: smokingfrog
"House Republicans are in trouble."

House Republicans are in trouble?

(Betcha 93% of Americans couldn't tell you who was Speaker of the House during 12 of the last 17 gov't shutdowns. And I betcha Obama doesn't want to go into the history books known as the first President to lead the US into default.)

44 posted on 10/15/2013 5:15:58 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: smokingfrog

in trouble?...hardly....let the ratfinks go squirl themselves....


45 posted on 10/15/2013 5:18:49 PM PDT by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: smokingfrog

Burn, baby, burn.


46 posted on 10/15/2013 5:26:00 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. S)
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To: cherry
in trouble?...hardly....let the ratfinks go squirl themselves....

Every ones health care premiums sky rocketed. The democrats in the house and senate must be freaking out, because the voters who work for a living sure are!!

47 posted on 10/15/2013 5:29:11 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: icwhatudo

That’s what a lot of people don’t get. We’re the parents. Bible passages about obeying rulers applies to the government, not us. We’ve got things all messed up because we’re not demanding submission. It’s like a family where the kids rule the home.


48 posted on 10/15/2013 5:29:16 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Viennacon

-— My fear is that he doesn’t care. -—

He cares. He wants destruction. It will bring about the glorious Revolution.

I’m hoping that the rest of the Rats will abandon him.


49 posted on 10/15/2013 5:30:56 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Shady

Exactly what Levin has been saying..


50 posted on 10/15/2013 5:34:14 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Sooth2222
The House owns the funds. THAT'S WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS.

All bills for raising revenue must - that's the imperative, MUST - originate in the House.

Why?

Because the House is closest to the People, most closely reflects our will at the present time, and is elected frequently enough for us to change them if we need to.

That's what we did in 2010, and what we re-affirmed in 2012.

The President is an administrator. He disposes of the funds that we, the People, appropriate through OUR House.

Boehner, Cantor, and McCarthy are acting like naughty children, afraid they are going to be caught and punished, instead of LEADERS BY RIGHT who OWN the funds and who have the POWER AND THE DUTY to dispose of them wisely.

51 posted on 10/15/2013 5:35:40 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. S)
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To: smokingfrog

Stay on Mission right through the heavy Flak, and just watch them turn on the Undocumented Imposter one by one.


52 posted on 10/15/2013 5:48:24 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: MulberryDraw

House Republicans are in trouble.

We all would have been in trouble if they’d voted for this thing.


You are right.

Most people are not getting to the heart of the matter. They are hung up on tangents, like the cost of their insurance under obumbler care.

The real heart of the matter is that this is really a contest as to how our government will be run from now on and who will run it.

The founders intended, and the Constitution makes it very plain, that the congress would pass all laws and the president would be the executive that faithfully carried out the wishes of congress.

If a law was so repugnant that the president could not sign, he could veto it.

The congress could then vote to over ride or they could let the veto stand.

All of that makes it obvious the intent of the founders and the intent of the Constitution.

Also requiring that all money bills must originate in the house made it possible that the rest of the government could not run away with the government.

So the president calling the senate to the liar’s house to discuss passing money bills is not what the constitution calls for.

The way this should work and what the house should do is send the senate a bill.

The senate can pass it, in which case it goes on to the liar’s house. If he vetoes it, that is that. The bill is dead unless the congress over rides.

If the senate does not pass it or if they do not over ride, then it is dead.

The house should write the bill they want and send it on its way. If the senate and the president don’t sign on to it, then the house should either revise the bill or go home and let the government shut down.

To do anything else turns the government over to the liar’s house.

Defunding obumbler care is the tool to force obumblers hand.

The patches the rinos are discussing are not even worthy of being called band aids. Making the congress and obumbler live under obumbler care does not address the problems in the IRS role, the “navigators”, the insurance costs and the unreasonable coverages forced by bureaucrats, the health professionals leaving the system, the graft and corruption the in the system, the potential for identity theft and worse and maybe worst of all, the death panels...whether overt or by omission of care.

The whole thing must be scrapped and started over.


53 posted on 10/15/2013 5:56:25 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

bttt!


54 posted on 10/15/2013 6:38:27 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: seeker41

The lib media is so afraid that they will lose hold of the narrative. The reality is that if government stays shut down, our credibility will actually rise because we can finally balance the budget. It’s so simple, a child can see it.

I can see Jesus just as he did to the moneychangers, kick Obama and his ilk out of the people’s house and let their corrupt institutions crumble. Please stand strong Sen. Cruz!


55 posted on 10/15/2013 7:19:51 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: mrs9x

I haven’t read Neocon Review Online in ages. My blood pressure hasn’t been this good since I was 14.

Now, when I say “neocon”, I don’t mean it the way Paultards and Moonbats do. When those dweebs use the word, it usually means “Jew” in the most derogatory, disgusting way possible. (Just like their other favorite word, “bankster”.As a Jew, I find it quite insulting when they use the word. As a Conservative, I find it annoying that they have no idea what it really means.) When I say it, I mean exactly what the word is meant to convey: A former Dhimmicrat (like former Mondale speech writer Charles Krauthamer just to name one off the top of my head.)who’s perfectly ok with the New Deal, big government and all the rest of the liberal nonsense.

Buckley must turn over in his grave daily when he sees what his life’s work has become.


56 posted on 10/15/2013 7:22:22 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: seeker41
I keep thinking, "yeah, the GOP conservatives are doing what is right," but I also fear for many of them because not only will this embolden the ranks of the Rats to run against them in the next election, but the GOP-e will also field candidates to run against them.

Thoughts?

57 posted on 10/15/2013 7:29:48 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45

Its all about the money, the most well funded wins. Heritage and FreedomWorks letting the GOPe know they were not going to be endorsed on their voting cards was the signal. TeaParty candidates are raising tons of money now. Wish it weren’t setup this way, but it is what it is for the moment.


58 posted on 10/15/2013 7:35:09 PM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: seeker41

59 posted on 10/15/2013 7:53:22 PM PDT by Route395
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To: smokingfrog

When thjngs go smoothly in DC, the American people get screwed. When thjngs are chaotic in DC, the political class gets screwed.

I’m ok with that.


60 posted on 10/15/2013 8:37:44 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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