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'Fed up' Milwaukee pastors call for gun buyback program
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 14 oct 2013

Posted on 10/14/2013 10:16:30 AM PDT by rellimpank

A group of Milwaukee pastors and their supporters gathered Monday morning at a local coffee shop to implore city officials to sponsor a gun buyback program, which they say could remove weapons from the city's streets and reduce violence in their neighborhoods.

"We are here today because we are fed up," said the Rev. John McVicker Sr., pastor at Christ the King Baptist Church. "There have been far too many senseless shootings in our city, many resulting in homicide."

The pastors have asked the city to allot $50,000 in its 2014 budget to initiate a one-time, anonymous gun buyback, where residents could safely turn over unwanted weapons. People would receive $100 gift cards for giving up handguns and rifles and $200 gift cards for giving up assault weapons. The buyback could be held at churches in ZIP codes with the most violence.

The group is determined to do something about the violence, said the Rev. Mose Fuller, pastor of St. Timothy Community Baptist Church.

"If they say no, we're going to do it anyhow," Fuller said, noting that his church was part of a community-led gun buyback program in 2005 that collected hundreds of guns. "People are tired of the violence."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; bluezones; guncontrol; milwaukee; pastors; rkba; secondamendment; urban
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---comments following say it all--and I see the pictured group really represent the folks who would likely partake of the "buyback" program---(sarc)
1 posted on 10/14/2013 10:16:30 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

The pastors must have a boat load of old weapons that they want to turn into cash so they can buy more modern weapons...


2 posted on 10/14/2013 10:17:42 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

No pastor of any church to which I belonged would have done this. It’s beyond the scope of their mission statement.


3 posted on 10/14/2013 10:18:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: rellimpank

I suppose these “pastors” will be want a Beer Buyback Program next.


4 posted on 10/14/2013 10:19:37 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Constitution is obsolete only if you see Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto as a replacement.)
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To: rellimpank

Hmm. There is something that all of these people have in common. Besides hating freedom and worshiping 0bama and being idiots. What could it be?

5 posted on 10/14/2013 10:19:54 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rellimpank
How DARE these people not commiserate with the real experts in the field of Jive Flim Flam???




6 posted on 10/14/2013 10:20:14 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: rellimpank

The ‘Frican pastors need to make sweeps of their ‘hoods to collect illegal weapons and get Bammy to come to their ‘hoods to speak to H0lder’s peeps to get them on the straight and narrow.


7 posted on 10/14/2013 10:20:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: trebb
Since we are talking about a BUY BACK here, I am curious as to just why these Pastors sold these EEvil guns to the folks in the first place.
8 posted on 10/14/2013 10:21:09 AM PDT by Tupelo (Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory, an old Republican Tradition.)
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To: cuban leaf
No pastor of any church to which I belonged would have done this. It’s beyond the scope of their mission statement.

My pastor has indicated that he is all for folks having guns - avid hunter himself. He doesn't waste time addressing the congregation with it though - Jesus is the prime message.

9 posted on 10/14/2013 10:21:11 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: rellimpank
Criminals love buy-back programs. They don't have to show proof they bought the guns - so they can dump many stolen guns and use the cash to buy a few good one. I suspect the Rev's backing this are part of the black community...
10 posted on 10/14/2013 10:21:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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To: rellimpank

Why don’t these alleged “pastors” put up some of the fleeced flock money if “guns” are such a problem?

My guess is they have done a poor job of “pastoring” their flocks and despite all their “preaching” nothing changes or is it their preaching that causes the “gun” to run out and kill a human.

Forrest was right STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!

Woe unto you preachers!


11 posted on 10/14/2013 10:21:43 AM PDT by Southern by Grace (kickbacks, bribes, maifia payoffs is how the D's get R' done!)
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To: rellimpank

maybe these preacher boys should be explaining what sin is and the impact of it.

time to hold their congregations accountable for their actions.


12 posted on 10/14/2013 10:22:21 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: from occupied ga
"NONE of these people Has My Sense Of Fashion"... Al Shaprton Oct 15 2013


13 posted on 10/14/2013 10:22:34 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: rellimpank

>> “There have been far too many senseless shootings in our city, many resulting in homicide.”

Go for the gold then, pastor!

And don’t ever stop to wonder if a “gun buyback” addresses the real problem. Or if it would be effective at reducing gun homicides.

No, asking intellectually honest questions would kill the buzz!


14 posted on 10/14/2013 10:22:42 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: MeshugeMikey
"Flim Flam"

Ya forgot Okie-Dokie, Bambozzle, Mumbo-Jumbo, Hoodwink.

The Jive is good though.

15 posted on 10/14/2013 10:22:52 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rellimpank

Methinks the pastors should ask for private donations to fund this gun buyback. If their cause is worthy, then they’ll get the support they need. If not, then so be it. We’ve gotta stop the demand for OPM (Other People’s Money) for every cause under the sun. Think something is worthwhile? Spend you own money on it or ask for charity. It’s called morality (something these “pastors” should understand).


16 posted on 10/14/2013 10:23:36 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Conservatives are not anarchists!)
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To: rellimpank

Anybody thought about getting them off welfare, raising their kids, giving their kids lasting Christian values, making marriage a staple of their communities, plus policing and cleaning up their neighborhoods?


17 posted on 10/14/2013 10:24:15 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: Tupelo
Since we are talking about a BUY BACK here, I am curious as to just why these Pastors sold these EEvil guns to the folks in the first place.

Making sure the Trayvons of the congregation got a fair shake...

18 posted on 10/14/2013 10:25:27 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

He doesn’t waste time addressing the congregation with it though - Jesus is the prime message.


Exactly


19 posted on 10/14/2013 10:26:09 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: rellimpank

I bet half of them have a gun in their car


20 posted on 10/14/2013 10:27:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: rellimpank

I have no idea of what the rate of people being shot in Milwaukee is right now, but infants in this neighborhood demographic are dying at a rate of two per week due to their mothers rolling over on them while asleep.

Mark Belling (WISN talk radio host) is the only person saying anything about this.


21 posted on 10/14/2013 10:27:59 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: trebb

The biggest problem I have with what this pastor is doing is that he is missing the whole message of the bible and Christ.

A “Christian” pastor doesn’t see the guns as the problem. Rather, he sees the hearts of men as the problem. He then attacks the problem. And Jesus didn’t come to save physical lives. He came and died to save souls.

At the end of the day, this pastor’s position is more than concerning to me because of its foundational flaws.


22 posted on 10/14/2013 10:28:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: from occupied ga

Their race is irrelevant. So long as they don’t require OPM (Other People’s Money) they should be free to do as many gun buybacks as they desire. It’s no business of mine so long as they don’t reach in my pocketbook to steal the money for their causes. Shoot (LOL). I might even donate to a gun buyback if they make a good enough case for one, but my concern is they’re not asking for charity. They’re taking. Plenty of whites do the same.


23 posted on 10/14/2013 10:29:11 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Conservatives are not anarchists!)
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To: rellimpank

They can’t do math either. $50,000 is 500 firearms, 250 if they happen to qualify as “assault weapons”, whatever that might mean at the moment. That might cover the Ladies’ Needlepoint Society but I doubt it will make much of a dent in the ‘hood.


24 posted on 10/14/2013 10:29:43 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Parmy
Anybody thought about getting them off welfare, raising their kids, giving their kids lasting Christian values, making marriage a staple of their communities, plus policing and cleaning up their neighborhoods?

I don't think they are "fed up" to the point where they'll try any of that, but it's a nice thought.

Mr. niteowl77

25 posted on 10/14/2013 10:30:53 AM PDT by niteowl77 ("There's nothing a vulture hates more than biting into a glass eye.")
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To: rellimpank

Say, I have a better idea. How about turning in the punks you know who are committing all the gun violence. You do realize that criminals commit the violence and one gun, to them, is as good as the next?


26 posted on 10/14/2013 10:31:27 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: CitizenUSA
Their race is irrelevant

Correlation, not causeation, but indicative that they're probably Democrats wich is relevant

So long as they don’t require OPM (Other People’s Money) they should be free to do as many gun buybacks as they desire

They way I read it is that they want the CITY (read taxpayers) to fund this atrocity.

27 posted on 10/14/2013 10:37:21 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rellimpank

Maybe they ought to teach their men to keep their peckers in their pants and their women not to dance like hoochie mamas. Maybe they ought really preach the gospel Jesus Christ and not the gospel of social justice.


28 posted on 10/14/2013 10:38:27 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: rellimpank

They can buy all the guns they want but they will still be up to their butts in barbarians.


29 posted on 10/14/2013 10:44:28 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Paladin2

Jibber Jabber...would also work rather well.....


30 posted on 10/14/2013 10:45:36 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—ping—


31 posted on 10/14/2013 10:47:03 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

As always, these “buy backs” are ridiculous. The only guns that will be turned in are:

1) Guns owned by miguided, non-violent people who would never have used the guns to commit violence anyway, but have been fooled into believing that turning in their guns will somehow reduce violence.

2) Guns brought in by widows who don’t know what to do with their late husbands’ gun collections. They will usually receive only a small fraction of what they could get from a local gun shop.

3) Non working guns owned by thugs and gang members, who will use the money they receive to buy better guns.

4) Stolen guns or guns used in crimes, turned in (for cash) by thugs taking advantage of the “no questions asked” policy.

I believe a “Thug Buy Back Program” would be far more effectivve in reducing violence. Parents or neighbors could bring in local thugs and gang members and exchange them for cash.


32 posted on 10/14/2013 10:55:22 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: rellimpank
I notice that the Pastors are so incredibly ‘fed up’ with the violence, that they're willing to use OTHER people's money for this ill-advised buyback program.

But the violence is not so bad that they're willing to put their own funds behind their idea.

Now I get it. Your compassion is touching, Pastors.

33 posted on 10/14/2013 10:56:06 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: rellimpank

I’m guessing about a 25% skim on this scam from that august body of theologians.


34 posted on 10/14/2013 10:58:13 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: tbpiper
“Maybe they ought really preach the gospel Jesus Christ and not the gospel of social justice.”

Absolutely.

35 posted on 10/14/2013 11:00:20 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

When was it that the Rev. Al gave up his oh so trendy sweat suits. I know it’s been a long while see was sporting the down with the peeps look.


36 posted on 10/14/2013 11:01:36 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: rellimpank; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Pastors demand Milwaukee launch gun buyback program

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


37 posted on 10/14/2013 11:02:18 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rellimpank

Can we buy the pastors and send them to china?


38 posted on 10/14/2013 11:03:48 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: from occupied ga

“Hmm. There is something that all of these people have in common. Besides hating freedom and worshiping 0bama and being idiots. What could it be?”

satan


39 posted on 10/14/2013 11:04:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: from occupied ga

from occupied ga: “They way I read it is that they want the CITY (read taxpayers) to fund this atrocity.”

That’s my beef with the gun buyback. We can debate whether or not these things are effective. I personally think they’re a waste of time, but I respect those who disagree.

I also agree these are very likely loyal Democrats. Again, I respect their right to be anti-gun. That’s not the issue for me. The issue for me is that they want to rob my pocketbook for their pet causes. I didn’t like it any better when President Bush wanted $30 billion for AIDS in Africa.

This gun buyback explains why the country is so polarized these days. It’s bad enough that the left wants to impose their views on everyone else, but they also want us to pay for the process. They use the power of government to seize our property and our liberty, and then they have the gall to expect us to be all civil about it.

Again, there are very few causes that couldn’t be done on a private, voluntary basis. Student loans, feeding the poor, housing, free clinics, etc. could all be done like that, but it’s so much easier for the left to simply pawn these tasks off on government. They not only like spending OPM but they put the onus on government to do the work for them, too.

Going out and asking for voluntary donations, selling the plan to other people, and then working the actual buyback, that’s too much like real work.


40 posted on 10/14/2013 11:06:40 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Conservatives are not anarchists!)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

My greatest fear is that when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I said I paid for them.


41 posted on 10/14/2013 11:11:33 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni

>>>My greatest fear is that when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I said I paid for them.<<<

Easy solution. Leave them all to me! :)


42 posted on 10/14/2013 11:13:26 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: rellimpank

Do these phonies know “buy backs” have been proved to be ineffective? Do they even care? They will say anything but the truth: Lock up criminals (of whatever color) who illegally use guns.


43 posted on 10/14/2013 11:14:23 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: from occupied ga

Looks like an NAACP convention.


44 posted on 10/14/2013 11:19:30 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The Second Amendment makes all the other amendments possible)
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To: CitizenUSA
likely loyal Democrats. Again, I respect their right to be anti-gun. That’s not the issue for me. The issue for me is that they want to rob my pocketbook for their pet causes

Unfortunately "loyal Democrat" is synonymous with "want to rob my pocketbook for their pet causes." which is why I said that their being democrats WAS relevant.

45 posted on 10/14/2013 11:30:47 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: jmaroneps37
Do these phonies know “buy backs” have been proved to be ineffective

Ineffective is a fact. First off anti-gunners don't dislike guns as such. They hate guns in the hands of anyone other than the government's JBTs. To reach this end, facts don't matter to anti-gunners. Anti-gunners don't base their attitudes on rational thought and facts, but on emotion.

They're not open to logic. The can't be reasoned with. They can't be bargained with. The feel no pity, remorse, or fear. They just won't stop until everyone but their beloved police are disarmed and helpless OR we're killed by their beloved police "resisting arrest" OR they and a sufficient number of theri goons are killed.

46 posted on 10/14/2013 11:38:48 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: rellimpank

They want the city to fund their idea. Why can’t they fund their own buy-back?


47 posted on 10/14/2013 11:40:21 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: from occupied ga

Wife-Beater Tee-Shirt Buy Back Program any one??


48 posted on 10/14/2013 11:41:20 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GOPJ

see #5


49 posted on 10/14/2013 11:43:45 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Parmy
Anybody thought about getting them off welfare, raising their kids, giving their kids lasting Christian values, making marriage a staple of their communities, plus policing and cleaning up their neighborhoods?

Come on, gang-bangers need to dump the guns they stole from their honest neighbors and they want CASH for those guns. Pawn shops ask for ID - but these stupid 'we love the criminal - buybacks' don't ask for ID...

That makes a difference. That's why criminals especially black criminals love buybacks.

Then they can buy a couple of nice ones and a few brewskies to go with 'em. Maybe even a few bucks for the them women they have kids with - who might donate a five to the church. What goes around comes around...

50 posted on 10/14/2013 11:53:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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