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G.O.P.s Hopes to Take Senate Are Dimming
The New York Times ^ | October 12, 2013 | JEREMY W. PETERS

Posted on 10/13/2013 5:01:16 PM PDT by Kenny

WASHINGTON — Next year was supposed to be a prime opportunity for Republicans to retake the Senate. And for a while, everything seemed to be breaking their way: a wave of Democratic retirements, a fluke in the electoral map that put a large number of races in states that President Obama lost, a strong farm team of conservative Senate hopefuls from the House.

Then the government shut down. Now, instead of sharpening their attacks on Democrats, Republicans on Capitol Hill are being forced to explain why they are not to blame and why Americans should trust them to govern both houses of Congress when the one they do run is in such disarray. Complicating the prospects, the grass-roots political force that has provided so much of the energy for conservative victories over the last four years — the Tea Party — is aggressively working against Republicans it considers not conservative enough.

As a result, many Republicans are openly worrying that the fallout from the fiscal battles paralyzing the capital will hit hardest not in the House, which seems safely in Republican hands thanks to carefully redrawn districts, but in the Senate. Republican infighting, they say, has given Democrats the cover they need to deflect blame and keep their majority.

“The Tea Party benefits when the energy is focused on the Democratic Party and their agenda,” said Brian Walsh, a Republican consultant and former strategist for the National Republican Senatorial Committee. “What’s concerning is a select few groups trying to turn that fire inward on the Republican Party. And that is not helpful.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 10/13/2013 5:01:16 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny
Aww isn't that sweet, the times is concerned about our welfare again.

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2 posted on 10/13/2013 5:02:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kenny

Well, if the Times says it, it must be true. /s


3 posted on 10/13/2013 5:02:42 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Kenny

As if the slimes and conventional wisdom are ever correct!?


4 posted on 10/13/2013 5:03:39 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: jospehm20

They keep saying Palin is a has-been.


5 posted on 10/13/2013 5:04:04 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Kenny
The New York Slime: all the news that fits its agenda. How convenient.
6 posted on 10/13/2013 5:05:30 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Kenny

If there is any organization with more experience with “dimming” than the New York Slimes, I am at a loss to name it.


7 posted on 10/13/2013 5:05:50 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Kenny
All Senate Politics are local.

That's apparently why McConnell has been maintaining a low profile while apparently saturating the KY airwaves claimed to be to the right of Reagan.

It ain't over till it's over.

Not only defund 0bamaDontCare, pick one of two other 'Rat favorite programs for defunding.

8 posted on 10/13/2013 5:06:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kenny
“The Tea Party benefits when the energy is focused on the Democratic Party and their agenda,” said Brian Walsh, a Republican consultant and former strategist for the National Republican Senatorial Committee. “What’s concerning is a select few groups trying to turn that fire inward on the Republican Party. And that is not helpful.”

Hey Brian, was that your effort in 12'? you know the one that many of us sent a great deal of money to give President Romney a Conservative Senate, cause if it was, in the words of Donald Trump, Your Fired. because it sucked and failed, and we are firing inward because those inward have been firing volleys at us since you tried to take out Palin in 08' and we have ****ing had it with you and your dang Party!

I feel better now...

9 posted on 10/13/2013 5:06:39 PM PDT by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: Kenny

The leftist toads were spewing this crap before the 2012 election also. It’s BS. As long as those who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living, the Senate will always be ruled by the DemocRATS and their commie lib RINO toadies.


10 posted on 10/13/2013 5:07:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Constitution is obsolete only if you see Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto as a replacement.)
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To: Kenny
G.O.P.’s Hopes to Take Senate Are Dimming

Uh... oh....
The New York Times columnist is inferring here that the GOP needs to cave, and cave fast, if they want to improve their poll numbers. Yessirree, caving is just what will attract new voters top the GOP.

11 posted on 10/13/2013 5:08:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: cripplecreek

....send Linda Graham home....


12 posted on 10/13/2013 5:08:55 PM PDT by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: Kenny

Well, McConnell, McCain, and Graham sure ain’t helping the GOP brand.


13 posted on 10/13/2013 5:09:13 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Lancey Howard

It’s nice to know the NYT is concerned about the GOP’s electoral success.


14 posted on 10/13/2013 5:09:21 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Kenny
If their hopes are dimming its because of phonies like McCain, and poltroons like McConnell.

The Tea Party is showing them the way to succeed, but they are either too stupid or too cowardly to listen.

15 posted on 10/13/2013 5:09:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Paladin2
Not only defund 0bamaDontCare, pick one of two other 'Rat favorite programs for defunding.

As I told some whiney liberal tonight who was screeching about Obamacare being "THE LAW OF THE LAND". Not only are we going to overturn Obamacare, we're taking a chainsaw to the base of the whole liberal ivory tower and they'll have to go all the way if they hope to have any chance of stopping us.
16 posted on 10/13/2013 5:10:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kenny

Any republican who listens to the NYT advise isn’t a republican. They are a dem-lite and worthless as a bucket of warm spit. Go Tea Party and constitutional conservatives! Take back America!


17 posted on 10/13/2013 5:11:04 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Kenny

Now, instead of sharpening their attacks on Democrats, Republicans on Capitol Hill are being forced to explain why they are not to blame

Explain it to who? The democrats? Independents and republicans don't need an explanation. We elected these people to prevent government from spending our money foolishly. Finally, they are starting to do their job. No explanation necessary.


18 posted on 10/13/2013 5:11:13 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Kenny

Boy, they are really pouring on the propaganda.
Republicans split.
Republicans angry with Tea party.
Senate republicans tell House to surrender.
Republicans in Chaos.
Republicans to lose Senate AGAIN.
Republicans to lose House.
Republicans to be in reeducation camps before end of
Obama’s third term...


19 posted on 10/13/2013 5:12:57 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Kenny

The New York Slimes...also known as the Onion NY.


20 posted on 10/13/2013 5:14:01 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Kenny

If the Slimes says it enough maybe, they hope, their dreams of Dhimmicrats holding the senate and gaining the house will come true.

Don’t believe their crap


21 posted on 10/13/2013 5:14:15 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: cripplecreek

Democrat concern troll is concerned...


22 posted on 10/13/2013 5:15:06 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Kenny

The fact they’re writing such drivel is proof that they remain worried that Republicans could in fact take the Senate. Typical Liberal trick: try to create the end result before the action.


23 posted on 10/13/2013 5:15:46 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Any republican who listens to the NYT advise isn’t a republican. They are a dem-lite and worthless as a bucket of warm spit.

Hopefully you're not calling me a "dem-lite" & "bucket of warm spit". I'm just trying to share headlines from today for discussion.

As to who would fit that descripion, our GOPe looks like a perfect fit.

24 posted on 10/13/2013 5:17:01 PM PDT by Kenny (<p>)
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To: Kenny
Actually I think the Republicans stand a pretty good chance of taking the Senate next year. Thanks to the Tea Party.
neither of my two GOPe Senators are up next year, but if they were, I suspect both could/would lose to any Democrat that ran. Both are popular with the high dollar GOPe so they could possibly survive a Tea Party challenge, but I do believe too may of us would just sit it out rather than vote for either of them.
That said, the same thing just may happen in enough states for the Democrats to hold the Senate. But the Republicans AIN'T going to lose the majority because of the shutdown.
25 posted on 10/13/2013 5:17:38 PM PDT by Tupelo (Snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory, an old Republican Tradition.)
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To: Kenny

The NY Slimes — I wouldn’t buy it - to line a litter box, line a bird cage or wrap fish in it.

The Slimes - The gray old lady is senile!!


26 posted on 10/13/2013 5:19:10 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul or Sara/Nikki in 2016)
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To: Kenny

The issue is not the issue.


27 posted on 10/13/2013 5:20:13 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Kenny

Whatever we’re doing we should stop and do it different, because the NYT says so ...


28 posted on 10/13/2013 5:20:22 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Paladin2
All Senate Politics are local.

You forgot your "sarc" tag......didn't you????? Please say you did.....

29 posted on 10/13/2013 5:21:33 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: tet68

Boy, they are really pouring on the propaganda.


Bingo. Deliberate agitprop placed above the fold on Page 1 by the presstitutes at the Times.


30 posted on 10/13/2013 5:21:44 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Kenny
“What’s concerning is a select few groups trying to turn that fire inward on the Republican Party. And that is not helpful.”

Actually, it's very helpful. It is exposing the enormity of the problem of establishment left-wing big government types within the GOP that want to aid this regime's agenda. That exposure and defeating them completely is the goal.

31 posted on 10/13/2013 5:22:05 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Kenny

Not so fast there, Times. By 2014 election time, Obamacare will have even further pi**ed people off and quashed the economy. Them may be desperate to get the dems out.


32 posted on 10/13/2013 5:22:24 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: Kenny

IMO, in 2014, ZeroCare will sink the Dems in the House AND Senate. Despite repeated polls showing that ~70% of taxpayers DID NOT WANT ZeroCare, the politicians controlling each house (Pelousy and Read) bribed, cajoled and threatened their Dem members to pass the pig.

If I am correct, this rooster will come home to perch in the Dem seats in the mid-terms and the ‘Pubbies/Tea Partiers will control BOTH houses of our crappy Congress.

(It is debatable if this will be an improvement. The best we can hope for is that zero will be forced to deal with the people he openly despises during his last 2 years in office and maybe - God willing - hopefully, he will finally be impeached. I said hopefully!)


33 posted on 10/13/2013 5:22:33 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: Future Snake Eater
It’s nice to know the NYT is concerned about the RINO's electoral success.

fixed it...

The Slimes do not want to see any TEA PARTY members in the Senate and house elected in 2014...

The Times would endorse a Marxist before a tea party candidate!!!

34 posted on 10/13/2013 5:22:36 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Ben Carson/Rand Paul or Sara/Nikki in 2016)
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To: Tupelo
"but I do believe too may of us would just sit it out rather than vote for either of them."

That could easily be the scenario for McConnell and Linda if they are not careful, but win their primaries.

Also should TEA Party candidates win the nomination, Juan, Cronyn et. al. could go scorched earth on the upset candidates (as they have tried to do in previous elections). It's going to be ugly, especially if Juan is out seeking retribution.

The GOPe should just suck it up and hold.

35 posted on 10/13/2013 5:22:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kenny

I dont’ think he was referring to you.....I think he was talking to the hypothetical republican who might believe the Times......


36 posted on 10/13/2013 5:22:39 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Wyoming will tell the tale.


37 posted on 10/13/2013 5:24:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kenny

If the GOP was losing, why is the story on the front page?

Pure propaganda.


38 posted on 10/13/2013 5:25:38 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Kenny

Awww, the old Gay Lady is worried about us, isn’t that nice?


39 posted on 10/13/2013 5:25:57 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Paladin2

HUH?


40 posted on 10/13/2013 5:26:07 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: cripplecreek

You took the words right out my brain!

I see so many leftist talking heads on TV news shows expressing “CONCERN” over how the GOP is committing suicide by not giving in to the demoRats. And they never look happy saying that. Why? They should be smiling ear to ear!


41 posted on 10/13/2013 5:26:30 PM PDT by entropy12 (With no fear of re-election, Obama is becoming more radical left..thanks a lot all you who abstained)
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To: Paladin2
... pick one of two other 'Rat favorite programs for defunding.

EPA and Department of Education.

Can I add a few more?

42 posted on 10/13/2013 5:27:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: taildragger
“And that is not helpful.”

That's a phrase coined by Democrats. What's an alleged "Republican" doing using it.

43 posted on 10/13/2013 5:28:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Kenny

We are more than a year away from the next election. Did the Times predict 1994, 2002, or 2010 when we were only one day away? Why would we care what they think now?


44 posted on 10/13/2013 5:28:33 PM PDT by Defiant (GOPe Strategy: We have to fund Obamacare in order to see how bad it is. Good idea, guys!)
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To: Kenny

The New York Times just tossing out more crap.

If they weren’t so scared we would never hear anything about he Tea party.,


45 posted on 10/13/2013 5:29:32 PM PDT by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Kenny

bullshit


46 posted on 10/13/2013 5:29:37 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Kenny

Says the NY Times. Since they are among the worst sources of news and opinion, who cares?


47 posted on 10/13/2013 5:29:50 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: John Valentine

lol. The only thing lower than their circulation is their credibility. There are always some people who subscribe for the comics, crossword puzzles, and ads - the only things of value in most newspapers these days.

The sad thing is that some of the critters in DC actually get demoralized away from holding firm because they believe the fake Twitters, polls, and propaganda machine. That is one reason those corrupt things continue, the other reason being that public perception is necessary in order for elections to be stolen. These propaganda props are necessary in order for the low-information folks to believe we still have electoral integrity.


48 posted on 10/13/2013 5:29:53 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Kenny
According to my 2012 election analysis, Republicans were riding high in the Senate until after the convention. After that, they went limp and failed to put any kind of national unified message together.

McConnell and the National Republican Senatorial Committee failed to build a national ticket, and left each candidate to drift in the winds of their own states.

If Republicans fail to retake the Senate in 2014, it won't be because of Cruz or the Tea Party, it will be because of weak and invisible leadership. Given that McConnell is in a primary fight of his own, don't expect him to be the braintrust behind a national "retake the Senate" movement.

If McConnell loses his primary race, expect him to behave like all of his colleagues before him. Expect McConnell to refuse to endorse the winner, and refuse to support what it will take to retake the Senate.

-PJ

49 posted on 10/13/2013 5:30:36 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
EPA and Department of Education. Can I add a few more?

Dept of Agriculture (they don't grow anything) Dept of Commerce (businesses will sell abroad on their own) Dept of Labor (how does that help grow economy?) All of these departments spend 100's of Billion dollars every year!

50 posted on 10/13/2013 5:31:36 PM PDT by entropy12 (With no fear of re-election, Obama is becoming more radical left..thanks a lot all you who abstained)
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