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New Gop Shutdown/Debt Plan, But No Agreement Yet
AP ^ | Oct. 11, 2013 | By ALAN FRAM and DAVID ESPO

Posted on 10/11/2013 12:24:50 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

In addition to ending the shutdown and increasing the debt limit, under the proposal Congress and the White House would explore ways to ease across-the-board federal budget cuts that began taking effect a year ago, and replace at least part of them with benefit-program curbs that have been included in recent presidential budgets. Officials who described the approach did so on condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss private conversations.

With the weekend approaching, and the deadline for raising the debt limit five days away, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said it was time to "put this hysterical talk of default behind us and instead start talking about finding solutions to the problems."

McConnell and Senate Republicans met with Obama at the White House, a session that lasted about 90 minutes. Returning to the Capitol, GOP lawmakers huddled with McConnell, who told reporters, "Now we're back here to actually work on trying to get a solution on a bipartisan basis."

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To: BarnacleCenturion; freedom462; RKBA Democrat

I am getting wild blog reports, one even linking to Drudge, that the GOP Goatse’s have already caved in, and there just hasn’t been an announcement yet.

Anyone getting word like this?


21 posted on 10/11/2013 12:56:46 PM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Oh, yes, SURE, Mitch McConnell is the right man to help the Republicans. McConnell worked with Harry Reid and Obama to raise the debt limit, increase taxes and fund Obamacare.

Don’t we have a true Republican to send to confer with the Regressives?


22 posted on 10/11/2013 12:58:17 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM THE HEAVENS WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
If I were Cruz I’d carry a 10-foot pole with me to touch McQueeg

Me too. And it would say "Hillerich & Bradsby" on it.


23 posted on 10/11/2013 12:59:20 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Old Sarge

Not that I know of. By cave, do you mean like literally caved in and accepted wholesale any and all demands Obama and the Senate make? And let them decide all the terms and conditions? Do you mean that kind of full scale caving?


24 posted on 10/11/2013 12:59:54 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: Sacajaweau

I think you’re kidding yourself.


25 posted on 10/11/2013 1:01:58 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Paine in the Neck

Thanks for posting those important links (Matt Bevin, Joe Carr & Lee Bright)!


26 posted on 10/11/2013 1:05:07 PM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: jjsheridan5

If Republicans were to lose the House it would be a catastrophe and the fault of the voters. Anyone except a RINO/Libertarian is going to vote Republican to stand against Obama/Reid/Pelosi. Anyone who does not vote Republican is responsible for giving the nationalist socialist more power.


27 posted on 10/11/2013 1:06:42 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: af_vet_1981

Maybe what could happen is voting in enough Republicans to get control of the House and Senate while making sure that those most responsible for failing to negotiate properly are primaried and replaced with Tea Party candidates. The idea would be to have the hardcore socialists in the minority in both sections of Congress while letting the majority know they will be scrutinized carefully every step of the way. Just something I am thinking of. Regardless, the middle ground as disappeared a ton in the past couple weeks so the conservative/libertarian side MUST act accordingly.


28 posted on 10/11/2013 1:10:17 PM PDT by freedom462
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To: BarnacleCenturion

We’re winning! Time to begin negotiating with ourselves! Quick! Hurry! Before we actually win!


29 posted on 10/11/2013 1:10:29 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Boehnor and McConnell are still trying to figure out how to translate surrender so it sounds like victory.


30 posted on 10/11/2013 1:12:12 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: af_vet_1981
If Republicans were to lose the House it would be a catastrophe and the fault of the voters. Anyone except a RINO/Libertarian is going to vote Republican to stand against Obama/Reid/Pelosi. Anyone who does not vote Republican is responsible for giving the nationalist socialist more power.

Except ... they don't stand against Obama/Reid/Pelosi. They are part of Obama/Reid/Pelosi. I will turn this around. Anyone voting blindly for Republicans who do not act like an opposition party are "responsible for giving the nationalist socialist more power." The fault will be directed at voters who put these charlatans in power. If "we" lose the house, then so be it. Conservatives are not part of "we", at least not in the McCain wing of the party. By all means, conservative and committed Republicans have my support. But the others can take a hike.
31 posted on 10/11/2013 1:13:28 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: freedom462

Total capitulation is being mentioned.

Breitbart just posted one, can’t get to the link yet...


32 posted on 10/11/2013 1:15:39 PM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

New commercial on TV just now with RINO Utah gov and Dimwit IN gov wanting people to sign petition to stop the gov shut down. Stinking RINO and Commies going together.


33 posted on 10/11/2013 1:22:05 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: Paine in the Neck

BUMP!


34 posted on 10/11/2013 1:24:37 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
I've gotten to the point where I don't care what the GOP does, except for Ted Cruz and company.

The rest of them should either get on board or shut up and go away.

35 posted on 10/11/2013 1:27:11 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: jjsheridan5

You’re right. The conservative base of the GOP is going to abandon it. The Republicans ARE empty suits because they can’t articulate ONE SINGLE position they have. Only the strongest Republican bastions will hold out against this tsunami. We’re looking at the dems gaining 60 seats. Or more.


36 posted on 10/11/2013 1:29:37 PM PDT by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Anyone except a RINO/Libertarian is going to vote Republican to stand against Obama/Reid/Pelosi.

Please do not attempt to cast libertarians into that camp. Ted Cruz is out there demonstrating and advocating for libertarian principles.

37 posted on 10/11/2013 1:31:14 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: freedom462
by the end of this weekend they will have given into virtually all of the Senate and WH demands.

Nonsense.

Obama will get some of what he wants, the GOP will get some of what they want.

Conservatives will scream because they don't get everything but this never happens when you only have 1/3 of Govt.

38 posted on 10/11/2013 1:40:30 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I got a request for funds from the RNC today and the letter came from John McCain. I laughed my butt off. They just don’t get it yet.

I sent the envelope back and said they must have confused me with someone else, that I was a Conservative.


39 posted on 10/11/2013 1:41:21 PM PDT by kempster
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To: yellowdoghunter
We r going to look like complete fools if we get nothing out of the deal!

Who says we'll get nothing?

We'll get something, but not everything.

40 posted on 10/11/2013 1:41:23 PM PDT by what's up
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