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Krauthammer: Obama 'bait and switch' on GOP debt ceiling compromise
FoxNews ^ | Oct 10, 2013 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 10/11/2013 6:25:50 AM PDT by Innovative

“So, the President offered an off ramp, in which he said ‘I will accept any length of extension’...

“So, Boehner has his offer, he goes in to see the president, you would expect that he would then have a six-week extension and discuss all of these issues. What seems to have happened is there are now demands from the president...

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TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: baitandswitch; boehner; congress; goodfaith; governmentshutdown; krauthammer; notingoodfaith; obama; playinggames; republicans
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Krauthammer also says that he thinks the Republicans should stand firm -- we are giving you the extension you agreed to, THEN we'll negotiate, not every time the Republicans agree to something, Obama moves the goal post and wants more.
1 posted on 10/11/2013 6:25:50 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Throw the Bums Out.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/10/20903531-nbcwsj-poll-60-percent-say-fire-every-member-of-congress?lite

Veterans Protest in DC

http://vetmarch.com/

Truckers Protest in DC

http://wtvr.com/2013/10/11/truckers-ride-for-the-constitution/


2 posted on 10/11/2013 6:26:40 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Innovative

3 posted on 10/11/2013 6:27:33 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Obama doesn’t want a solution, and he will make sure he doesn’t get one. That’s how he plans to win and seize emergency power.


4 posted on 10/11/2013 6:29:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: Innovative

Obama and his administration lies.

That is an easy way to say a tough thing.

Lie.

A small word that tells much about the person’s character.


5 posted on 10/11/2013 6:30:34 AM PDT by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Innovative
The GOP leadership still doesn't understand Obama's psychology. He doesn't call these meetings to discuss or negotiate. He calls them so that he can make a show of slapping you down and insulting you. He uses your sense of civility against you. Just as he did with the Supreme Court Justices, he expects you to stand still and be quiet, smile politely, while he rains vituperation down upon you for his and his base's enjoyment. He gets off on this passive/aggressive sort of attack and you, Boehner, McConnell, Cornyn, McCain, Ryan, et. al., walk into it blindly every time. He is evil and you are morons.
6 posted on 10/11/2013 6:31:35 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: Innovative

Public pressure forced the president to sign the “Honoring the Families of Fallen Soldiers Act” yesterday and I am certain he is mad and resentful about that. If his history is any guide he will become even more difficult to deal with in the upcoming days. He ususally is after having had his @$$ handed to him.


7 posted on 10/11/2013 6:31:50 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I think you're right. He wants to exhibit some strength in his "orders".

This is like living under a king...edicts and all.

8 posted on 10/11/2013 6:32:03 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ClearCase_guy
Obama doesn’t want a solution, and he will make sure he doesn’t get one. That’s how he plans to win and seize emergency power.

This.

9 posted on 10/11/2013 6:32:31 AM PDT by mykroar (China and Russia are playing chess while Obamas's playing 52 card pick-up.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Unfortunately yours is an excellent summary and it’s right on the money.

I think Republicans and most people in general can’t fathom that anyone can be pure evil.


10 posted on 10/11/2013 6:35:37 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Paine in the Neck

“He is evil and you are morons.”

Bingo.

Vituperation... great word, thanks.


11 posted on 10/11/2013 6:37:30 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Chickensoup
Obama and his administration lies.

Over and over and over .... Fast&Furious, Benghazi, IRS, NSA ... and especially 0bamacare:

In the 2008 campaign and the years thereafter, Barack Obama said something over and over: Under the health law of his and Democrats’ dreams, premiums for average families would fall by $2,500. He said this until he was blue in the face — that health insurance would be more affordable, and he put a specific number on it.

He also said, over and over — and over and over — that, if you liked your plan, you would not have to give it up. Nothing would change for you. No, we were just going to help some folks who were down on their luck and did not have access to health insurance. But rest assured: If you liked your plan, nothing would change for you.

Now, both of those things turn out to be untrue: Health premiums are not going down, by $2,500 or any other number; they’re going up. And it’s not true that you won’t be forced off your plan: Some are.

Okay, the rant (cooler version): If you were President Obama, don’t you think you’d feel the need to address these things?

AND … if you were a reporter in the White House press corps, you’d ask the president about them. You’d say, “Mr. President, you said over and over that health-insurance premiums would fall by $2,500.

12 posted on 10/11/2013 6:38:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Innovative

Silly Boehner and GOP, community organizers need a crisis to advance their agenda...haven’t you learner that after almost 5 years of Obama?


13 posted on 10/11/2013 6:44:19 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Innovative
It's nice to see Dr. K supporting the idea of a 6-week extension. There seems to be a bit of a negative reaction to that idea here on FR. I'm with Dr. K on this.

My reasons for liking the 6 week extension idea: It allows a separation of the Government Shutdown/Obamacare issue from the Debt Limit Issue.

Why is that important?

Combining the two will both confuse the public and make it all too easy for the GOP to negotiate a debt ceiling reduction and a clean Continuing Resolution without getting anything but some nominal spending reductions out of the deal. Obamacare goals would be the first thing that gets dropped during the negotiations. A bad deal for us.

14 posted on 10/11/2013 6:51:15 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (e)
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To: Innovative

Krauthammer attends the Obama dinners. Not a word out of his mouth should be believed or adhered to.


15 posted on 10/11/2013 6:53:19 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Innovative

This is actually the same technique used by Hitler against Chamberlain. Chamberlain offered Hitler something, and Hitler would take it; but instead of offering something in return, Hitler would demand more from Chamberlain, who was such a weak-willed individual that he would agree to it, with hopes that Hitler would offer something in return. Hitler never did.

The trouble with this technique is that eventually it backs (the) Chamberlain side into a corner, so he has to create an ultimatum, a “red line”. Since he has proven so weak before, (the) Hitler side, defies the ultimatum, thinking he can get away with it. Which at least at first, he can.

So now the conservatives must persuade the Republican leadership that negotiations with Obama are fruitless, because Obama does not haggle, only demand. And if the Republican leadership are firm, Obama will endlessly complain and whine about it.

This time, even with the help of the MSM, complaining and whining won’t work either, because it makes him look not only mean, but petulant and bratty, as Krauthammer pointed out.


16 posted on 10/11/2013 6:54:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: Innovative

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17 posted on 10/11/2013 6:55:03 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Innovative

Don’t negotiate with Obama. He is not so popular that you cannot wait for a crack in the Dems. Make them break with him. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.


18 posted on 10/11/2013 7:01:28 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Innovative
The US will not default on it’s debt. With about $200-250 billion a month in revenue and debt service being about $25-30 billion... HOW in hell does anyone think we can’t pay our debts?
19 posted on 10/11/2013 7:33:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Boycott Reno & Las Vegas until those in control there, remove Reid from the senate!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Actually, you malign Chamberlain. England, it’s peacetime army, its obsolete air force, and its people were not yet ready for war, and his only ally, France, was useless, as was proved later. Chamberlain was playing for time to get ready for the war that was expected eventually.


20 posted on 10/11/2013 7:37:10 AM PDT by expat2
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