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Federal government to let states pay to open national parks
Trib Total Media ^ | Oct. 10, 2013

Posted on 10/10/2013 10:50:15 AM PDT by george76

700,000 people a day would have been visiting the parks and that the surrounding areas are losing $76 million in visitor spending per day.

The park service said it is losing $450,000 per day in revenue from entrance fees and other in-park expenditures, such as campground fees and boat rentals.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: New Mexico; US: South Dakota; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: barrycades; brownshirts; nps; operationwhipcracker; parkrangers; parkservice; shutdown

1 posted on 10/10/2013 10:50:15 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

I say let the states run the parks permanently, and get the feds out of our lands!


2 posted on 10/10/2013 10:52:34 AM PDT by Ripliancum (Mosiah 29:27. Look it up.)
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To: george76

Maybe the gov’t should sell off it Billion Bullet hoard.


3 posted on 10/10/2013 10:52:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: george76

Maybe the gov’t should sell off its Billion Bullet hoard.


4 posted on 10/10/2013 10:52:49 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: george76

It costs money to say “hey ranger, get out of the way and let us in”?


5 posted on 10/10/2013 10:53:59 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: george76

What would happen if…possible unintended consequence of the Presidents current plan of attack.

The shutdown continues federal funds earmarked for the states are withheld; the states decide to withhold state taxes owed to the federal government and instead use them to fund projects/activities the feds should have been doing.

It’s a win/win. Citizens realize that they don’t need the federal government as much as they have been led to believe. The states regain some of the rights they have lost to the feds. The feds get less money in the coffers, thus starving the beast.

I would not pay for a service not rendered, so why should the states pay for federal services not rendered.


6 posted on 10/10/2013 10:54:59 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: george76

A hog finds an acorn once in a while. A small group of us at FR have been saying the states should use Eminent Domain to take control of the parks within their borders permanently. Since the fed is offering, they should take control of the parks and not give them back.


7 posted on 10/10/2013 10:55:06 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: george76

Of course - they’ll only do it if the states “fully fund” federal agents.


8 posted on 10/10/2013 10:55:45 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: george76

Isn’t that nice of them. After all, we’ve already paid taxes toward maintenance of national parks - and now they’re going to make the states charge us again?

Only in Øbongo’s AmeriKKKa


9 posted on 10/10/2013 10:57:02 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: george76

If the states pay to open the parks the first order of business should be to boot out the park rangers!


10 posted on 10/10/2013 10:57:06 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: george76

They pay for them, they own them. It’s hard to see any rollback from the federal government owning everything to be a bad thing.


11 posted on 10/10/2013 10:58:59 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ripliancum

I’ve been saying that since they started to shut them down. And closing down the Memorials....Bet it’s as illegal as hell.


12 posted on 10/10/2013 11:01:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: george76

Why do I have to pay for an entrance fee to go gaze at a tree I own?


13 posted on 10/10/2013 11:03:50 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Safetgiver

At least twice : Entrance fees, your federal incomes taxes, and ...


14 posted on 10/10/2013 11:06:45 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I guess we got in just in time. My wife and I visited all the Utah parks, as well as Crater Lake, in mid-September. I’d have been powerful pissed if we had pulled the trailer all the way fro NW Washington and found the parks all closed. And the missus has a way worse temper than I do.


15 posted on 10/10/2013 11:08:53 AM PDT by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: george76

de-nationalize the parks!!


16 posted on 10/10/2013 11:10:07 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: george76
"The Obama administration said Thursday it will allow states to use their own money to reopen some national parks that have been closed because of the government shutdown."

how much does it cost to kick some cones aside ?

Bolt cutters are in more than a few vacationing cars.

We'll do it for free.

17 posted on 10/10/2013 11:20:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf
"Interior Secretary Sally Jewell said the government will consider offers to pay for park operations, but will not surrender control of national parks to the states."

It's an unauthorized tax

FYBO

18 posted on 10/10/2013 11:21:44 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

The entrance fees of $450,000 per day should help ?


19 posted on 10/10/2013 11:24:20 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: knarf

I’m sure they tested this in focus groups and it tested horribly for prezzie...


20 posted on 10/10/2013 11:25:32 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: george76

I wonder if the American populace is paying attention. There is an object lesson here.

The encroachment of the Federal Government into every aspect of our lives is plainly being played out here for all to see. What part of..{they are taking your money and saying that you have no vested interest in your own country}...don’t people understand?

These Parks and Wilderness areas do not belong to the politicians in Washington, DC. The USA citizens own those Monuments, Parks and Wildernesses. We have paid for them for years and compliantly sat back, like sheep, and watched the Feds regulate our access to them.

Every Park Ranger that participated in Obama’s directive, “To inflict as much pain as possible” on the American People, should be fired. Everyone of them should submit their resignations.

It time to put a stop to this expansive Government intrusion into our lives...hopefully, it isn’t too late.


21 posted on 10/10/2013 11:27:06 AM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: george76
I called Marcia Fudge, the head of the black caucus, and my HOR Rep (because of OH 'pubs who can't even get gerrymandering correct), with this message for her gal on the phone:

During the time of slavery, many an escaped slave used the Cuyahoga River as their escape route, hoping to get to Lake Erie and then across to Canada. Well, many got to the Lake but not across. That is why the east side of Cleveland has one of the largest and oldest concentrations of descendents of slaves in the US. Now, that freedom trail along the Cuyahoga is a national park, forever preserved as a reminder of the path those escaped slaves took to freedom. That's right, folks. Obama (who isn't a descendent of slaves) closed access to that powerful symbol of freedom.

Ya' think maybe Destiny (the girl's name...honest) got that message to Representative Fudge? She represents those Cleveland area descendents of those brave and determined slaves who made their way to freedom. <^..^>

22 posted on 10/10/2013 11:35:00 AM PDT by grania
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To: BlessingsofLiberty; MileHi; dhs12345; neverdem; ColoCowgirl; RandallFlagg; dynachrome; ...

Hick went to Estes Park yesterday where he caught grief from the locals about RMNP being closed. The road over the park can be used by tourists and truck conveyors for heavy equipment to rebuild other roads from the Estes side.

He promised to call 0 to get the road [ at least ] reopened so that tourists might support Estes financially.

With a third state Senate recall in the works [ which could cost the DUmmies the state Senate soon ] 0 folded ?

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


23 posted on 10/10/2013 11:37:05 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty
park ranger vehicles get flats all the time.

They drive over rough terrain and puncture gas tanks

Make 'em WALK out from where they "took their stand"

24 posted on 10/10/2013 11:48:39 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: george76

Rocky Mountain National Park was the only way out of Estes Park during the recent flooding. There is only one way out of Estes Park with the RMNP closed. Don’t expect much form Chickenpooper outside of the typical lying liberal rhetoric.


25 posted on 10/10/2013 11:53:51 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: grania

Good luck with that, USA blacks are not generally NPS supporters, you will not find many of them in a park unless it is an urban area.


26 posted on 10/10/2013 11:53:58 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: Ripliancum

Spot on. That can be the first order of business, once we take the Congress back in 2014.


27 posted on 10/10/2013 11:59:49 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: mountainlion; potlatch

Hick, Bloomberg, and other DU fools likely have secret polling from PP - like last time - that says the recall for #3 is gowning strong for us.

Hence, their panic.


28 posted on 10/10/2013 12:10:16 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Ripliancum

Ya. And give the states back the revenues that go to the feds to run the parks.


29 posted on 10/10/2013 12:20:15 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Ripliancum

If I were a Governor, I would call out my National Guard to take all the Park Rangers as hostages. I would then tell the Feds to STAY OUT if they want their Rangers to live.


30 posted on 10/10/2013 12:23:36 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: george76

don’t go....make the NPS go deep into further dept....they should be paid back handsomely for their nazi thug tactics, the little weasels...


31 posted on 10/10/2013 12:31:41 PM PDT by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: george76

I say we don’t pay the Feds to re-open anything.

If it’s their property and they can close them at will, then they can self fund, like the post office.

Do Not Pay them.


32 posted on 10/10/2013 1:08:18 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Ripliancum

The GOP House should pass a bill to do just that. It’s perfect timing.


33 posted on 10/10/2013 1:48:36 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: george76

...and states are paying the unemployment *Benefits* of furloughed *unessential* Fed employees....who will get their back pay when and if this fiasco ends. HMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.


34 posted on 10/10/2013 3:39:28 PM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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To: george76

I’m always late and can’t say I am fully informed other than knowing the park closures are Obama’s attempt to hurt the people and make himself look good.

I did a bit of reading about National parks, wondered when the Fed took them over and it seems it began in 1916. I would say the states should take back their land but the Feds won’t allow it.

Are you familiar with UNESCO as World Heritage Sites?
The United Nations’ Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO).

I’ve read that 68% of American national parks, monuments, etc are included in a UN treaty called the Convention concerning protection of the World Cultural and National Heritage.

I know that all of that is beside the point being discussed, but I was unaware of it and thought it interesting.


35 posted on 10/10/2013 6:44:59 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: george76

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36 posted on 10/11/2013 3:54:10 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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