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Why Is This Not a National Tragedy? A troubled young mother is shot dead and our ruling class...
American Spectator ^ | 10.7.13 | ESTHER GOLDBERG

Posted on 10/07/2013 11:54:15 AM PDT by neverdem

A troubled young mother is shot dead and our ruling class applauds.

An unarmed 34-year-old woman suffering from postpartum depression is surrounded by the authorities while sitting in her car, and gunned down in cold blood. She is blocked in. She cannot move. And yet she is killed by heavily armed security officers. Her one-year old child witnesses this from the back seat. Why is this not a national tragedy?

Miriam Carey was a young African-American woman who wanted to better herself. She went to college and graduated with a BA degree in health and nutrition science. She became a dental hygienist. One of her neighbors noted that it was obvious she was educated. She gave birth to her daughter a year ago and began to suffer from postpartum depression. She displayed some irrational behavior and was put on medication.

Thus far it’s not an uncommon story. About 50% of women who give birth suffer from postpartum depression. A friend of mine was on medication for more than 8 years after her daughter was born. This might conceivably happen to my daughter. Or to one of Obama’s daughters, come to think of it.

Then, on October 3, Miriam crashed her car into a security barrier near the White House. She was surrounded by security men shouting at her and pointing high-power guns. Was it so irrational to try to escape, to protect her daughter from men pointing pistols at her? A chase ensued, and she then crashed her car into a median somewhere in the vicinity of the Congress. She was blocked by security forces from several agencies. She could not move. She was unarmed, and alone save for her daughter. In her car, unprotected. And then she was killed...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; dictatorship; guncontrol; miriamcarey; murder; navyefl; policestate; secondamendment; thugs; trappedindrill
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1 posted on 10/07/2013 11:54:15 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

this sounds like cold blooded murder to a lot of people. If the cops were able to grab the baby out of the car why couldn’t they tazed her or pulled the keys or flattened the tires?
If a Citizen had done something like this there would be hell to pay.


2 posted on 10/07/2013 11:56:26 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: neverdem

If Trayvon had a sister?


3 posted on 10/07/2013 11:56:35 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: neverdem

I think it is a national tragedy and the jackbooted thugs that committed murder need to be arrested and tried


4 posted on 10/07/2013 11:57:17 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: neverdem

Cynthia McKenny isn’t there to keep the Capitol Police in there place.


5 posted on 10/07/2013 11:57:29 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: gundog

their....geez.


6 posted on 10/07/2013 11:58:34 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: neverdem
Moral: Don't try to drive your vehicle into the White House Gates and then go nuts driving all over the streets of DC. We're gonna stop you. And they did.

Thank God she didn't kill anyone....say like a 3 year old in a stroller and her mother...or a 70 year old grandmother...or a vet...

Everyone is important. Their job is to protect and that's what they did.

7 posted on 10/07/2013 11:59:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Yorlik803

The cops “feared for their safety”. You can pretty much do anything if you “fear for your safety”. Although, if your name is George Zimmerman, you’ll have a hard time with that defense.


8 posted on 10/07/2013 11:59:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: neverdem

How come the front of her car doesn’t appear to have a scratch on it?


9 posted on 10/07/2013 11:59:54 AM PDT by VA40
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To: neverdem

Yep, not much of a peep from the government propaganda networks.

I blame the Obama phones


10 posted on 10/07/2013 12:00:05 PM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: neverdem

She attempted to kill several police officers. She attempted to run her vehicle into the Capitol / White House.

Sadly, the cops did what they had to do.


11 posted on 10/07/2013 12:00:08 PM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: neverdem
Miriam Carey was a young African-American woman who wanted to better herself. She went to college and graduated with a BA degree in health and nutrition science. She became a dental hygienist. One of her neighbors noted that it was obvious she was educated. She gave birth to her daughter a year ago and began to suffer from postpartum depression. She displayed some irrational behavior and was put on medication.

She sounds like Obama's Julia, fatherless child and all. But she got too close to the Great and Powerful, scared them in their spendy shoes, and that's it for her.

12 posted on 10/07/2013 12:00:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("The heart of the matter is God's love. It always has been. It always will be."~Abp. Chaput)
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To: neverdem

A report from CNN(!) said that the woman’s child was removed from the car before she was shot.

This situation cries for an investigation.


13 posted on 10/07/2013 12:00:42 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Sacajaweau

Protect how? The car was stopped. There was no other way to prevent her from going any further?


14 posted on 10/07/2013 12:01:17 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: neverdem

They were just following orders.


15 posted on 10/07/2013 12:01:48 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: neverdem

Why didn’t they just Taze her???

Blocked in, nowhere to go, they reach in, remove the child from the vehicle and then empty their clips into her, probably while her hands were in plain sight on the steering wheel.

Is that the action of DC’s finest???


16 posted on 10/07/2013 12:02:20 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: neverdem

Another victim of terrorism. After the Naval yard shooting, police are understandably in prevent mode. After the ramming, they’re thinking suicide bomber...


17 posted on 10/07/2013 12:03:20 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Seen any scandal headlines lately?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
The cops “feared for their safety”. You can pretty much do anything if you “fear for your safety”.


18 posted on 10/07/2013 12:04:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: neverdem

I’ve yet to read a clear account of this story. All the people with cameras in DC on a clear day...she crashed a median? a barrier? ran over a cop? what exactly was she doing when they fired on her? Was she even driving at that moment?


19 posted on 10/07/2013 12:04:22 PM PDT by HomeAtLast (The original Tea Party entailed a willingness to do without some tea.)
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To: neverdem

But surely the REVrund Jackson and his coiffed Justice Brother have been marching and picketing every day in DC, no? Surely JJ has been chanting things like “No Juhhey No pea!” And “Pohees buhtanity!” Surely there are thousands of black people wearing t shirts with her photo on it?

/crickets


20 posted on 10/07/2013 12:04:47 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Ingtar

BS...... Travon and this woman had one thing in common,skin color.


21 posted on 10/07/2013 12:05:56 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: neverdem

Wonder if they’ll do a DNA analysis of the child?

The results could be enlightening.


22 posted on 10/07/2013 12:06:10 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: neverdem

Whether she was troubled or making 100,000 a year is beside the point. She actually sounds fairly high functioning to be able to make that drive alone with a small child. Perhaps the paranoia states drifted in and out.


23 posted on 10/07/2013 12:07:14 PM PDT by erlayman
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To: neverdem

My point exactly!

We heard about TRAYVON for a year? 2 years?
The President addressed his plight, the Department of Justice wanted to invoke double jeopardy, and every news agency talked about it 24/7, even when they had to make up facts to keep the story going!

If Zimmerman was out of line for shooting an unknown male assailant, with who he was in a fist fight, alone in the dark, when the other guy may have been reaching for Zimmerman’s gun, and for all Zimmerman knew, may have had a gun or knife of his own...

If Zimmerman is such a despicable, evil, cowardly, racist, monster for shooting Martin under these circumstances...

HOW can a thousand military style armored police with AR’s, helicopters, Federal and military support possibly shoot an unarmed FEMALE and be judged heroic? In broad daylight?

Exactly whose life did she threaten?

Or does the security of the elite rulers somehow count for more than the lives of the citizens they are sworn to serve?

Now I will read the article.


24 posted on 10/07/2013 12:07:19 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: neverdem

“She is blocked in. She cannot move. And yet she is killed by heavily armed security officers.”

I watched the video and she was definitely moving as they were shooting at her. She was not blocked in. That does not mean that I approve of her being shot.


25 posted on 10/07/2013 12:07:23 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: Piranha

Yup after FenF and the Big BenG thing and the list goes on


26 posted on 10/07/2013 12:07:27 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: mbarker12474
She attempted to kill several police officers.

You sound like you know, so I'll ask you. Was she attempting to kill anyone when she was shot? If so, with what? If not, why was it proper to execute her?

27 posted on 10/07/2013 12:07:49 PM PDT by HomeAtLast (The original Tea Party entailed a willingness to do without some tea.)
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To: neverdem
The short answer is that if this had occurred during the Bush administration there would assuredly be a hue and cry from the corrupt MSM. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be fanning the flames of racial suspicion and hatred (see: James Byrd chain dragging). But, because this is the Obama administration the MSM averts their eyes and has absolutely no curiosity whatsoever.
28 posted on 10/07/2013 12:09:11 PM PDT by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Uncle Chip

The shooters are still arguing over who gets to put a notch on their gun.


29 posted on 10/07/2013 12:09:18 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: HomeAtLast

So little details, I agree. The smashed up cop car? I did see video of that and he crashed that car all by his happy self. Her car was no where around. Again, I don’t understand how she crashed into a barrier and there is no front end damage to her car.
You think they will release the radio tapes? I’m sure we’d hear officer down, shots fired, you name it.
Something is wrong here.


30 posted on 10/07/2013 12:09:43 PM PDT by VA40
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To: yldstrk

I agree


31 posted on 10/07/2013 12:10:43 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: VA40

“A troubled young mother is shot dead and our ruling class applauds.”

Well that and a good number of Freepers. Disturbing to know some of our own are drinking the Kool Aid. They know who they are.


32 posted on 10/07/2013 12:11:27 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: billhilly

I have not seen video from when she was actually shot. Where did you see that?

Also, at the link, people are blaming the family for not getting her help. When a family member is over 18 there is not much you can do, until they do something illegal.


33 posted on 10/07/2013 12:15:42 PM PDT by VA40
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To: neverdem

There are shockingly many here on FR that would be happy to buy the trigger happy cops a beer. Two beers for getting someone unarmed and three getting an ‘amish’.


34 posted on 10/07/2013 12:15:47 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Sacajaweau

“Don’t try to drive your vehicle into the White House Gates and then go nuts driving all over the streets of DC.”

Yeh its called reckless driving. Check out the DC definition of reckless driving and penalties posted below:

RCW 46.61.500
Reckless driving — Penalty.

(1) Any person who drives any vehicle in willful or wanton disregard for the safety of persons or property is guilty of reckless driving. Violation of the provisions of this section is a gross misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for up to three hundred sixty-four days and by a fine of not more than five thousand dollars.

(2)(a) Subject to (b) of this subsection, the license or permit to drive or any nonresident privilege of any person convicted of reckless driving shall be suspended by the department for not less than thirty days.

Guess what? Nowhere is the penalty death by multiple rounds of gunfire.


35 posted on 10/07/2013 12:16:28 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: VA40

NO doubt what media means by ‘rammed a barrier’ is actually, “bumped into one of those obama-gates they put up all over the mall”.


36 posted on 10/07/2013 12:17:37 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: neverdem

Has anyone heard anything about the guy who set himself on fire Friday on the Mall? Supposedly he had recorded a statement before Johnny Storming.

Nobody knows his name, age, race, history, political persuation, etc etc. It’s as if it never happened after the initial few new reports.

It’s just odd. People do this as a last act of defiance to make a public statement. If this happened in Tibet or Damascus, we’d have chapter and verse, I’m sure.


37 posted on 10/07/2013 12:17:44 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes, of course, to stop, surround, and execute is expeditious and a real strategic performance.

We should all hope for the same hearty response when we are behind the wheel, suffering a reaction of some disorder or another.

Address the obvious.
The execution was obviously UNCALLED for.


38 posted on 10/07/2013 12:20:49 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: neverdem

“Was it so irrational to try to escape, to protect her daughter from men pointing pistols at her?”

Well, yeah, when those men are the authorities, and they are pointing pistols at you for crashing your car into a security barricade. Duh.


39 posted on 10/07/2013 12:21:53 PM PDT by Boogieman
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but when a cop slams through the barrier at top speed, he doesn’t get shot


40 posted on 10/07/2013 12:23:03 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Still posting the vehicle code from Washington state, I see.

Go look up the code on Vehicular Assault and Third-degree assault, and at least the people living in Washington state will know the applicable laws.

You might also want to stop slandering the people that think the police acted lawfully. That's a lot different from what they should have done, or could have done. But, if you don't like the law, change it.

41 posted on 10/07/2013 12:23:33 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Yorlik803

The “troubled young mother” who attempted to attack the White House and the Capitol, possibly harming her own little child in the back seat, is now getting the “path to sainthood” treatment. If anyone else had done this, their remains would now be mulching the White House lawn. There wouldn’t have been enough left to bother with.

And, BTW, exactly WHAT would a troublemaker have to do NOT to be excused because she was having a bad day?

I’m not fond of our President, but he should be safe from crazies.


42 posted on 10/07/2013 12:24:00 PM PDT by July4
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To: neverdem

They extracted the baby and THEN killed her.

This was more or less an execution —probably a little less than an execution.

BUT CLOSE.

But since our Prez is black and progressive, the leftist MSM makes it go away.

When the FBI came to cart away ALL of the Japanese-Americans it was done not by some run-of-the-mill leftist but instead by the very Grandfather of Liberalism, FDR.

There is a lesson there, and I think that people with badges and uniforms are FARRRRR less likely to question their orders —we have imported many many people born in places where their rulers are their overlords, and mostly they retain that view.

There were FIVE badged officers riding with the NYC motorcycle gang, and they stood and watched.

People shoot off their mouths about “rifle behind every blade of grass” and “the soldiers will turn on their officers, discarding their orders”.

I very strongly disbelieve that.


43 posted on 10/07/2013 12:24:45 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: RitaOK
Yes, of course, to stop, surround, and execute is expeditious and a real strategic performance.

Which is exactly what they tried to do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyszhTz8fQ4

If it was all just a misunderstanding, don't you think she should have stopped at that point?

44 posted on 10/07/2013 12:25:20 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Rennes Templar

“After the ramming, they’re thinking suicide bomber...”

Yeah, that was my thought too. How many private security guards are vets? In Iraq, if a car rammed a security barricade, the next thing you would expect would be a big boom. That’s what some posters here who say she was no threat once the car was stopped are probably forgetting.


45 posted on 10/07/2013 12:26:35 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: neverdem

“An unarmed 34-year-old woman suffering...”

Armed with the 3000 lb car she was driving. They didn’t have a choice but to shoot her when she refused to stop or give up.


46 posted on 10/07/2013 12:27:55 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: justlurking
They extracted the baby and THEN killed her.

I keep hearing this, and traced it back to a single witness. Is there any corroboration?

I find it interesting that every other account that isn't on video is questioned, but everyone is willing to accept her account.

47 posted on 10/07/2013 12:27:55 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: July4

her car was stopped, hence no threat. If the cops were able to get the kid out of the car, they could have used other means to subdue her.
That being said, I,like a lot of other people are armchair quarterbacking this from our computers. Maybe there was another threat, either real or perceived, that is unknown to us.
Time will tell....hopefully


48 posted on 10/07/2013 12:28:24 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Sacajaweau
Everyone is important. Their job is to protect and that's what they did.

No, their job is "officer safety" and going home at the end of their shift. (Pssst....we're not buying the "protect and serve" bullshit anymore)

49 posted on 10/07/2013 12:28:28 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: neverdem
So, pray tell, how did the people doing the shooting know this wasn't a new twist on an old car bomb idea?

There have been female jihadis wearing bomb vests.

I'm not excusing shooting an unarmed woman with the kid in the car, but the unarmed part isn't really ascertained until after the dust settles.

We complain about armchair generals second guessing security personnel overseas, and then put on the stars ourselves.

50 posted on 10/07/2013 12:29:31 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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