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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 6 October 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 6 October 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/06/2013 5:04:12 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: gusopol3
Ah, but Candy has volunteered to step into the ring with Sen. Cruz. She'll soon experience what DNC Dave did.
21 posted on 10/06/2013 6:02:34 AM PDT by JPG (Putin Does Obama.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Candy is actually treating Lew the way we would expect her to treat a Republican. Interesting to watch.

He has a catch phrase: “if we don’t pay our bills, we are in default” and slides social security checks into this equation.


22 posted on 10/06/2013 6:07:18 AM PDT by maica ( Why deal with the Constitution? ItÂ’s written in cursive.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray

It seems like the outcome of a longterm shutdown (and I’m not saying this is gonna last much longer) would be that some congressional RINOs would be driven to change parties and become Demoviks.

And THAT would be a good thing because the Republican party might then be primed to become a growth industry with millions of Americans who don’t trust it today (to wit: my fellow evangelicals)likely to start migrating its way.

But unless the RINOs are driven out, I think the Republican enterprise is doomed to flicker like a dying flame—with the Tea Party brightening at each interval.


23 posted on 10/06/2013 6:10:10 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Bernard
Bernard, I cannot answer that question.

All I know is that I'm not paid to loaf around at home. Must be nice.

It used to be that government employees were paid less than the private sector, but could expect better job stability, as private sector jobs are based on the whims of the marketplace and whether that company can sustain a profit. Government on the other hand, had less of our money, but would never close if the failed to make a profit, as they weren't setup to make a profit in the first place.

Now, government over taxes, way over spends, offers employees much better wages and benefits than the private sector, and all these government employees are politically vested in the party that made this happen (explains why Northern Virginia is turning a once solid Southern state of Virginia into another Maryland).

Since almost all government employees are bureaucrats and many are unionized, they have a thousand ways to put “pressure” on the rest of us to sustain their quite comfortable situations. In other words, we now work for them in the form of our tax dollars that pay their benefits and salaries, and any efforts to join TEA parties, fight back, etc., are met with bureaucratic government measures, like spending money they don't have to barricade open air public monuments...

Given all this, I would like to see this shutdown go on for a year or more. And when finally over, a Constitutional amendment written to prohibit government employees from unionizing, and set their wages to a level perpetually tied to 5% less than the marketplace equivalent job.

24 posted on 10/06/2013 6:10:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
FOX's Wallace debates the severeness of the default.
FOX plays Obama and Obama's side multiple times,
and notes Obama is not negotiating.

Wallace corrects Lew twice on his attempted revision
of history.
Lew can only change the subject.

Wallace has done a good job.

When will anyone discuss and address that
the Dear Leader has closed the Oceans
and the Veterans' Monuments,
while leaving all US borders wide-open, even more.
He continues weaponizing al Qaeda,
weaking America and its (lost) freedom
while ignoring his indefensible abrogation
of the US Constitution.

The carnage continues only because of two reasons.
The US Congress is too busy with its image
and personal bank accounts (as they evade the Oath).
Second, the pandering, shameless MSM has as much regard
for investigative journalism and integrity,
as their undocumented impostor has for the maxim:
"Equal Justice Under the Law".


25 posted on 10/06/2013 6:14:18 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Alas Babylon!

Chris Wallace calling out Jack Lew on the lies.


26 posted on 10/06/2013 6:14:22 AM PDT by Lacey
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To: maica
and slides social security checks into this equation.

Whatever the topic, they just dust off the same ole rhetoric, the same ole scare tactics, they have been using for years.

It is like watching a long-running TV series: Eventually, they run out of new plotlines, so they rehash previous plotlines -- with slight variations to make it appear to be fresh.


27 posted on 10/06/2013 6:15:57 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: maica
We can't go into default unless we choose to. We pay $415 billion a year in debt servicing costs, but we receive $2.7 trillion in revenue annually.

Nancy Pelosi says SS does not contribute to the deficit. We have $2.4 trillion in the SS Trust Fund. The Administration will have to admit that SS is an unfunded liability and that we need to borrow money to pay benefits.

28 posted on 10/06/2013 6:16:01 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Lacey

Lew is pathetic, he just can’t give a straight answer to any question. Chris is hammering him good.


29 posted on 10/06/2013 6:17:01 AM PDT by surrey
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To: Lacey

Ted Cruz is just wonderful in his debating skills.

Candy Crowley: You said last night that if... Republicans will win.

TC: I didn’t say that. I said - the American people will win.

POW!


30 posted on 10/06/2013 6:17:35 AM PDT by maica ( Why deal with the Constitution? ItÂ’s written in cursive.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

These two are heard from when the media needs a RINO to attack a conservative or support a democrat bill/plan/attack on a country to set up a Islamic regime...

Lately, after Obama screwed up and got smacked by Putin, they didn’t want McCain spouting off about it to keep that meme in the public mind, and they’ve had plenty of new RINOs to attack Ted Cruz, so why bother?

Also, Graham is beginning to see that the opposition to him in South Carolina might be his undoing. Time to “act and speak” like a conservative. Maybe his campaign manager told him not to go on any of the shows, as he would probably reveal his true self with his stupid RINO comments...

Rest assured they’ll be back on the Sunday shows when the democrat party officials posing as news media need them to poison the well again. At least McCain. Hopefully, they’ll be able to defeat Graham in SC, so he might not return...


31 posted on 10/06/2013 6:17:54 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Alas Babylon!.

> FACE THE NATION (CBS): Lew; Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas; Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

> STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Lew; Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas; Reps. Steve King, R-Iowa, and Donna Edwards, D-Md


32 posted on 10/06/2013 6:19:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

> Various driveby media television networks ^ | 6 October 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

LOLOLOLOL!!!!


33 posted on 10/06/2013 6:19:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Bernard

Question; when the government plans for a shutdown, who decides if an employee is essential or non-essential? Since the House has already voted 407-0 to pay the non-working government employees, I would think that if I were a government employee, I would request to classified as non-essential, so that I could get some paid time off that does not come out of my PTO bank.
Funding the non-working government payrollers is the worst decision Republicans can make. And we wonder why we are 17 Trillion (with a T) in debt? Really?


It’s really only the discretionary budget that’s suppose to be in play here, based on my understanding of this. The “budget” is a minor percentage of the “spending,” most of which is mandatory.

If the government were to “shut down” in a literal sense, they would have to stop taking our withholding and all the rest of it—so there’s no real “shutdown.”

The monuments that are being “closed” are sort of a good reference point on how muddled this all is. Those monuments are no longer subject to the budget except where upkeep and maintenance might be needed. Places like the WWII and Vietnam memorials are ALREADY paid for.

The Park Police are budgeted independently. They are suppose to be “shut down” as near as I can tell, like most of the people at EPA are. The logic by which Park Police are paid to keep people AWAY from what are statues, if applied to EPA (which “protects” the environment) might be used to keep EPA people on salary to STOP people from swimming in the ocean or camping in the mountains or watching the sun set—since the government could claim province over the “environment” as it does the statues.


34 posted on 10/06/2013 6:20:25 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: PoloSec
Cruz v. King? I have only two questions here.

1. How many rounds?
2. Is the standing 8-count rule in effect?

35 posted on 10/06/2013 6:20:30 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: kabar

We can’t go into default unless we choose to. We pay $415 billion a year in debt servicing costs, but we receive $2.7 trillion in revenue annually.
Nancy Pelosi says SS does not contribute to the deficit. We have $2.4 trillion in the SS Trust Fund. The Administration will have to admit that SS is an unfunded liability and that we need to borrow money to pay benefits.

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We know that. Crowley must also know that. Lew, today’s DEM parrot, is trusting that his soundbite will carry more weight with the (cough cough) news media than the truth.


36 posted on 10/06/2013 6:20:37 AM PDT by maica ( Why deal with the Constitution? ItÂ’s written in cursive.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

OMG!! Boehner said ‘CONVERSATION” a THOUSAND times!!!<P.Jihn, if you EVER say CONVERSATION AGAIN, you are TOAST as the SPEAKER!! HOW WEAK can you get!????


37 posted on 10/06/2013 6:22:19 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yes, that’s my interpretation as well. Peter King will ably fill in for McCain in the backstabbing department. Lindsey needs to stay out of the public eye lest he reveal too much of what he is too close to his primary.


38 posted on 10/06/2013 6:22:21 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: maica

We can’t go into default unless we choose to. We pay $415 billion a year in debt servicing costs, but we receive $2.7 trillion in revenue annually.
Nancy Pelosi says SS does not contribute to the deficit. We have $2.4 trillion in the SS Trust Fund. The Administration will have to admit that SS is an unfunded liability and that we need to borrow money to pay benefits.


That’s right. And only Obama can put us into default. But what is “default” when you are already $16 trillion in the hole? To me, this is really a matter of semantics and accountant-speak and not very meaningful. Default? I say, go ahead, make my day.


39 posted on 10/06/2013 6:26:30 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Ann Archy

Ted Cruz is speaking for both Houses now. To Candy - the House holding an increase in the debt ceiling to concessions on new spending by the Executive Branch is not new. It is the only leverage that Congress has against unlimited spending.

Why can’t Boehner take notes, memorize them, and repeat them when he actually goes on a ‘news’ show.


40 posted on 10/06/2013 6:28:22 AM PDT by maica ( Why deal with the Constitution? ItÂ’s written in cursive.)
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