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Russia: Kremlin's 'Hate TV' Compares West to Nazis
BBC ^ | 3 October 2013

Posted on 10/05/2013 2:33:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Russian state TV presenters are using ever more extreme language to vilify government opponents - even comparing Western nations to the Nazis.

To mark the anniversary of the 1938 Munich Agreement, that handed the Czech Sudetenland to Hitler, Rossiya 1's current affairs flagship News of the Week likened the West's handling of Syria to the actions of Nazi Germany. "How did the Germans get the Sudetenland?" asked anchor Dmitry Kiselev. "Under the pretext of defending human rights," he answered, accusing the US, Britain and France of using talk of Syrians' rights to "encourage terrorist intervention".

A Rossiya 1 news bulletin let Stalinist author and editor Alexander Prokhanov go even further. "Then it was Hitler, and now it is America, devouring country after country before our very eyes, before the eyes of the whole world," he said. Dubbing the US a "bloody animal", he warned Russia could be its next victim. "The Munich collusion is a lesson to us all. Not a step back. Behind Syria lies the Russian border." Neither Prokhanov nor Rossiya 1 mentioned the August 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, by which Moscow gave Hitler the green light to invade Poland.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: germany; israel; patbuchanan; pitchforkpat; randsconcerntrolls; ronpaul; russia; waronterror

1 posted on 10/05/2013 2:33:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Methinks the BBC doth protest too much.


2 posted on 10/05/2013 2:41:47 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Why do you say that?


3 posted on 10/05/2013 2:43:27 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Navy Patriot

I kinda think Hitler would approve of a government which would consciously let children with cancer be denied treatment.


4 posted on 10/05/2013 2:49:13 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: nickcarraway

Nazis would mean something different to the average Russian than to the average American. Nazis tried to conquer Russian territory. We know them more for their infamous Holocaust.


5 posted on 10/05/2013 2:51:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Parmenio
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6 posted on 10/05/2013 3:04:48 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: nickcarraway

Valerie Jarrett is most certainly a Nazi.


7 posted on 10/05/2013 3:12:15 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Navy Patriot

Well, I’m not the BBC and I’m offended by this comment. It’s a bit rich considering that the Soviet Union was allied with Nazi Germany.


8 posted on 10/05/2013 3:13:39 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: nickcarraway

Yet another example of how, nowadays, the Nazis are used to smear any opponent or recipient of criticism. Just call ‘em Nazis rather than making an argument.


9 posted on 10/05/2013 3:15:40 PM PDT by River Hawk
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To: Enterprise
The Russians here are taking the opportunity to point out that the US is proceeding along a line of events, is taking actions and implementing policy that shows several parallels to the rise of Hitler and the Nazi Party in Germany post WWI.

The BBC immediately resorts to name calling ("Stalinist" author...), and conflates Russian approval of Hitler before WWII as Russian approval now, which is ludicrous. (Stalin didn't have much choice but to agree to a non aggression pact with Hitler considering his resources.) BBC pretends Russia is unchanged in 65 years, when the truth is Russians have learned their lessons well.

10 posted on 10/05/2013 3:26:37 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

No, Stalin quite eagerly entered into the alliance with Nazi Germany. The quid pro quo was the joint invasion of Poland and a free hand for the Soviets in the Baltics. Stalin looked at the pact as a big win for the Soviet Union.


11 posted on 10/05/2013 3:35:15 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Parmenio
It’s a bit rich considering that the Soviet Union was allied with Nazi Germany.

The Soviet Union was not allied with Germany, they agreed to a treaty of non aggression and never functioned as allies. Said treaty lasted 22 months, during which both nations imposed Socialist conquest on their neighbors.

12 posted on 10/05/2013 3:38:04 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Parmenio
While Stalin was in favor of the non aggression pact, he still had no choice. He was currently warring with Japan and the pact precluded a German Japan alliance against which he could not hope to win.

The gift of the Balkans was bait Hitler intended to retrieve from the start, and did so.

Stalin was played.

13 posted on 10/05/2013 3:47:08 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

You’re playing word games. It was a defacto alliance.


14 posted on 10/05/2013 3:47:59 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Parmenio

>>>It’s a bit rich considering that the Soviet Union was allied with Nazi Germany.

Bingo. And also considering that embedded in the 1938 Agreement was the infamous “Secret Protocol” — not made public until after the war — in which Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia divided up eastern Europe into their respective “spheres of influence.” Many in the U.S. today still don’t know about it, nor do they know that after Nazi Germany invaded Poland on September 1, 1939, Soviet Russia invaded Poland about three weeks later.


15 posted on 10/05/2013 3:49:16 PM PDT by GoodDay
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To: Navy Patriot

You’re right in saying that Stalin got played. He was looking to play Hitler, but Hitler was faster.


16 posted on 10/05/2013 3:54:05 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Parmenio
Words have meaning and the games played with words are not played by me.

Rather they are played by the BBC and most all of the media with few exceptions.

This BBC crapola is one of the best examples of demonizing the truth by trying to get the audience to dislike the past affiliations of the messengers rather than evaluating the factualness of the message.

17 posted on 10/05/2013 3:58:40 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks nickcarraway.
"How did the Germans get the Sudetenland?" asked anchor Dmitry Kiselev. "Under the pretext of defending human rights,"
How did the Soviet Union get half of Poland, Russian a-hole? And not give it back after the war?


18 posted on 10/05/2013 5:06:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: nickcarraway

They barking up the wrong tree. This administration, and the one before it are not Nazis. That’s ridiculous.

This administration is purely Fascist.


19 posted on 10/05/2013 7:14:53 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: nickcarraway

So Russia’s new fascist government has “Hate TV.” That’s no surprise.


20 posted on 10/05/2013 7:20:57 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Parmenio

>>>No, Stalin quite eagerly entered into the alliance with Nazi Germany. The quid pro quo was the joint invasion of Poland and a free hand for the Soviets in the Baltics. Stalin looked at the pact as a big win for the Soviet Union.<<<

Please, learn history. A love affair between Stalin and Hitler is an urban myth.
Soviets were at war with Axis before the WWII as we know it ever started.
Both with Germany by proxy in Spain since mid-1930s and against Japan in Mongolia and China.
In fact a poor performance of Japan’s armed forces against the Russians in Asia was a primary reason to divert their efforts into Pacific against US, believed to be a soft target at the time.
As for 1938 Stalin was seeking alliance with both UK and France to attack Germany but Munich ruined his expectation and he was left on his own.
He knew the war with Germany was inevitable but he has just purged his entire military leadership and failed to update arsenals that stuck at a level of earlier 1930s technology.
German pact was a bargain, it offered non-aggression guaranties, time to retrain and rearm and also an ability to occupy a few nations as a buffer zones ahead of Germany.


21 posted on 10/05/2013 7:25:36 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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