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Government doors closed, but workers may get paid
Houston Chronicle ^ | October 5, 2013 | Andrew Taylor

Posted on 10/05/2013 9:03:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON (AP) — Their government has failed to keep the doors open and has told federal workers to stay off the job as the political parties fight over spending and health care in austere times.

Now Congress and President Barack Obama are sending this message to the 800,000 sidelined government employees: We don't know when the impasses will end but you will get reimbursed for lost pay once the government reopens.

With the partial shutdown entering its fifth day, the GOP-run House passed a bill Saturday that would make sure the furloughed workers get paid for not working. The White House backs the bill and the Senate was expected to OK it, too, but the timing was unclear.

The 407-0 vote in the House was uniquely bipartisan, even as lawmakers continued their partisan rhetoric.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamacare; obamacaves; shutdown

1 posted on 10/05/2013 9:03:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“We don’t know when the impasses will end but you will get reimbursed....”

.
Sheesh, it’s just a paid vacation courtesy of the American taxpayer.


2 posted on 10/05/2013 9:06:12 AM PDT by 353FMG ( I don't say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

dammit, I checked to see if this had been posted and sure enough...beat by a minute.


3 posted on 10/05/2013 9:08:10 AM PDT by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The vote: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll525.xml

This will pass the senate of course.

But I hope one of the good Senators raises a holy stink about Dems paying these guys but killing bills paying WIC (which runs out of money next week), Veterans, etc.


4 posted on 10/05/2013 9:08:32 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: 353FMG

Now they should focus on getting everyone working for Congress, all those up on the Hill and in the White House, signed up for Obamacare......


5 posted on 10/05/2013 9:09:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The taxpayers - those who are forced to pay for it all - don't get this type of royal treatment. We lose weeks worth of pay and have to sign up for unemployment.


"Rules are for thee - not for me!"

6 posted on 10/05/2013 9:10:46 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Now they should focus on getting everyone working for Congress, all those up on the Hill and in the White House, signed up for Obamacare......

And no 75% subsidies!

7 posted on 10/05/2013 9:11:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This House Republican vote just told us that this is nothing but political theatre to them —


8 posted on 10/05/2013 9:16:30 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

pay for work that was not performed

wow.

Like a welfare program


9 posted on 10/05/2013 9:18:16 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: 353FMG
Sheesh, it’s just a paid vacation courtesy of the American taxpayer.

Yep. It's a beautiful time of year to get the extra time off - especially if it's at someone elses expense.
It must be nice to be part of the royal family.

10 posted on 10/05/2013 9:18:31 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: GeronL
pay for work that was not performed

"A government of the government, by the government, for the government."
The country has been "fundamentally transformed."

Now get off your computer and get back to work you slacker. The government needs your money.

11 posted on 10/05/2013 9:24:03 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Java4Jay; BRK; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”Now Congress and President Barack Obama are sending this message to the 800,000 sidelined government employees: We don't know when the impasses will end but you will get reimbursed for lost pay once the government reopens.
With the partial shutdown entering its fifth day, the GOP-run House passed a bill Saturday that would make sure the furloughed workers get paid for not working. The White House backs the bill and the Senate was expected to OK it, too, but the timing was unclear.
The 407-0 vote in the House was uniquely bipartisan,
even as lawmakers continued their partisan rhetoric.”

, Reid and Obama already agreed to this. Typical shutdown fiasco.
GOP did the same thing when they caved to Clinton in 1996, something I been reminding freepers for years, but lost in those romantic tellings of the story on talk radio.

Parks are closed but we taxpayers must pay them ANYWAY as if they were working, etc with other agencies. Hell, dont they get eight paid weeks vacation anyway? Why do they need this?

What kind of principle is this Lou Gomert (TX) ??? You keep on lecturing us on doing the right thing.ON principle. Now you vote for this.

RIGHT ON Lou , cost the taxpayers even more ....than if you did nothing.

12 posted on 10/05/2013 9:26:10 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obama’s people are trolling for hard case stories from gov’t workers.

Paying them is a great tactic to achieve the larger strategic objective.

The goal is to destroy Obamacare, and buying off government workers will relieve much of the pressure on some pubbies to cave.

Let's keep our eyes on the prize.

13 posted on 10/05/2013 9:29:10 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Obamacare - Forcing slaves to buy their chains.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; Liz; Clintonfatigued; ...

Lets see, Obama-care is still funded moving forward,
GS (Federal) employees now get off even more paid vacation off until the GOP caves when they have to go back to work.
(and its October too)

So what was the point?


14 posted on 10/05/2013 9:31:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The door is pried open, they get paid, no reason not to go to work...


15 posted on 10/05/2013 9:32:45 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: sickoflibs

Statue of Liberty shutdown (FNC) , Federal employees who would work there get paid anyway,


16 posted on 10/05/2013 9:32:59 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs

Capital Mall closed down but we must pay for it being open anyway


17 posted on 10/05/2013 9:37:34 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This was going to happen anyway; however, I want to see how many of them actually return.


18 posted on 10/05/2013 9:39:18 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama to government workers: “You will be paid so keep supporting the one that writes your paycheck. Not the ones who pay it. The one who writes it. Understand? Or do I need to draw you a picture? Valeri Jarrett had to draw me one.”


19 posted on 10/05/2013 9:46:27 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Jacquerie; Cincinatus' Wife
RE :”Obama’s people are trolling for hard case stories from gov’t workers.
Paying them is a great tactic to achieve the larger strategic objective.
The goal is to destroy Obamacare, and buying off government workers will relieve much of the pressure on some pubbies to cave.”

No it just makes them look stupid and another incentive to cave.

Obama care is still funded and going forward, they didnt stop that.

What they did do is make us pay to have all the parks open and others services until the shutdown ends, that we don't get because they are off while being paid by us taxpayers, Hell, don't they already get eight paid weeks vacation?? Why do they need this?

And they are not even on Obamacare themselves(these GSs getting off) ,

The longer the shutdown continues the stupider it is, the more the taxpayer gets screwed by every house member by this vote. Every one of them caved, even the 'Tea party heroes' voting for this.

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20 posted on 10/05/2013 9:47:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
With the partial shutdown entering its fifth day, the GOP-run House passed a bill Saturday that would make sure the furloughed workers get paid for not working.

BFD They get paid every Friday for "not working", that why they were furloughed as "nonessential"! We need to be trimming fat not playing silly games.

Regards,
GtG

21 posted on 10/05/2013 9:48:39 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Just one Question:

What is wrong with No work, No Pay????


22 posted on 10/05/2013 9:51:12 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As I asked my girlfriend, on furlough from ICE, why are you home?


23 posted on 10/05/2013 9:55:14 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: VerySadAmerican
RE :”Obama to government workers: “You will be paid so keep supporting the one that writes your paycheck. Not the ones who pay it. The one who writes it. Understand?”

Obama didnt vote yet, but guess who did. Not one House GOP voted NO.

FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 525

You know what this means?? Get a government job or you are a sucker.

24 posted on 10/05/2013 9:55:43 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: EXCH54FE

I “lived” in the WDC area for 30 years. These Fed “workers” always get retroactive pay for any stoppage. ALWAYS. Why do you think many of the most wealthy counties ring the beltway of WDC? Your tax monies at work. It is a paid vacay for them...yet they knash their teeth for effect. Disgusting.


25 posted on 10/05/2013 9:56:49 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Now you know what they in GOP house mean when they say they are worried about spending/deficits.

Its all BS.

They could have added conditions to this, like make Federal employees get health care from exchanges, but instead they all just caved to libs and handed GS Fed employees our $$$ again.

Obama didnt blink. GOP did, entire house.


26 posted on 10/05/2013 9:59:19 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs
They could have added conditions

As long as they're getting paid anyway, why keep them at home? What difference does it make? Why not make them earn that pay rather than waste millions in hard earned tax dollars on.......nothing?
This is a CLASSIC example of government waste. We're obviously over taxed!

27 posted on 10/05/2013 10:04:08 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: hal ogen; EXCH54FE
RE :”These Fed “workers” always get retroactive pay for any stoppage. ALWAYS. “

I live in Maryland and I been reminding Freepers here for years how Newt/Dole did this for that shutdown 1995/1996 too.
I know many here who have that sweet deal
It is lost in the romantic stories told by Rush and Levin.
They spin a completely different tale.

They didnt have to get this $$$$ though,
GOP in House caved.
All of them.

They are so FOS.

28 posted on 10/05/2013 10:04:22 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: concerned about politics

RE :”As long as they’re getting paid anyway, why keep them at home? What difference does it make? Why not make them earn that pay rather than waste millions in hard earned tax dollars on.......nothing?
This is a CLASSIC example of government waste. We’re obviously over taxed!”

My point exactly


29 posted on 10/05/2013 10:05:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: hal ogen
I “lived” in the WDC area for 30 years. These Fed “workers” always get retroactive pay for any stoppage. ALWAYS.

The work stops, but the wasteful spending never does.

30 posted on 10/05/2013 10:05:42 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

The problem with the bureaucrats is that also the work never starts...at least truly productive work. There are an incredible percentage of Fed “workers” who are make-work jobs.


31 posted on 10/05/2013 10:37:58 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: sickoflibs
O-o-o-o-o, you don't worship Oboner--Valerie's gonna getchou.


32 posted on 10/05/2013 11:17:48 AM PDT by Liz
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To: GeronL
This is actually a wise move by the house conservatives. It is the second chink in the democrat's armor and one O is going to sign, again, in opposition to his and the stated democrats words that everything would get funded at once, or nothing at all.

Next should be the NIH funding (cancer treatment for kids), and then the Nation Guard funding, and that crack in the dam will become a torrent of line item funding bills, if the conservatives hold to the plan.

Just my 2 cents...

33 posted on 10/05/2013 11:30:29 AM PDT by Errant
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34 posted on 10/05/2013 12:12:51 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

We need to think of this as a paid vacation for federal workers... because that’s what it is...


35 posted on 10/05/2013 12:18:41 PM PDT by GOPJ (Brieitbart sent me... Freeper newfreep)
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To: 353FMG

What other job can you get paid for sitting home playing video games?


36 posted on 10/05/2013 12:36:09 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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Thanks Cincinatus’ Wife.


37 posted on 10/05/2013 1:12:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Uncle Chip
This House Republican vote just told us that this is nothing but political theatre to them

Well, it told that to the people who didn't already know it. I believe those people are holding a convention the corner phone booth.

38 posted on 10/05/2013 1:49:47 PM PDT by shego
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To: sickoflibs
make Federal employees get health care from exchanges

That's the existing Federal system.

39 posted on 10/05/2013 1:49:47 PM PDT by shego
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To: LucyT
Certainly he's scoring big points with anti-American countries with whom he sympathizes. Harming Americans by any means necessary is their stated goal.
40 posted on 10/05/2013 7:05:34 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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41 posted on 10/05/2013 7:15:04 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I was talking with a federal worker who is baffled by this — he said that if they are guaranteed to be paid, why are they not allowed to work during the shutdown? If the money will come either way, they might as well work.

They've been reassured that they will be paid, but are absolutely not allowed to work for it.

42 posted on 10/05/2013 7:45:52 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: GeronL

Pay for work that was not performed BUT no pay for work that was performed.

Federal workers still on the job won’t be receiving their paychecks until after the shutdown.

Nice fairness act... NOT


43 posted on 10/05/2013 10:02:26 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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RIGHT ON Lou , cost the taxpayers even more ....than if you did nothing.

Maybe the GOP should make the focus the Dem lie that Obamacare will cost less etc. What's the root cause of all this?

Poor planning on the part of the GOP? Unintended consequences?

How about "I want a 30 second sound byte or one paragraph on my facebook page that says I did something about spending/obamacare."

44 posted on 10/06/2013 10:16:55 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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RE :”Poor planning on the part of the GOP? “

I dont see that there was any planning going on there by any of them.

It was ‘we have to jump into this because it’s right or we are following our principles and if we just dont blink something good might happen so follow us or else because it doesnt matter who wins..’

Next thing ya know its more paid vacation for all government workers so ‘we can win’ , cant figure out what master principle that conforms to.

On the bright side. looks like Obama’s not going to get amnesty this year.

45 posted on 10/07/2013 12:21:26 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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