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Obama's health care challenge: keeping Democrats on board
washington examiner ^ | October 3, 2013 | BRIAN HUGHES

Posted on 10/04/2013 12:15:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

President Obama faces a dual challenge in the months ahead: Convince uninsured Americans to sign up for Obamacare and keep worried Democrats on board as the administration enacts his health care overhaul.

The rollout of the Obamacare health exchanges Oct. 1 touched off a high-stakes messaging battle over the president's signature legislative achievement, a clash with enormous repercussions for the 2014 midterm elections.

Playing an expectations game, Obama’s surrogates have openly argued that it could take months, if not years, for Americans to fully appreciate the impact of a law that polls show has been greeted with confusion and skepticism.

Obama’s political allies don’t have time to spare, however.

“To a certain extent, we sink or swim on how the public views the law,” conceded a top Senate aide to a centrist Democrat up for re-election in 2014. “There’s a lot of work left to do. The White House isn’t the only one with skin in the game.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2014; 2016; bho44; obamacare; obamacarefiasco; primaries; shutdown

1 posted on 10/04/2013 12:15:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The uninsured don’t want to pay for it and they certainly don’t want to be forced to pay for it!


2 posted on 10/04/2013 12:30:16 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

America isn’t going to realize what a turd sandwich they are being served until well into next year. People are balking at the premiums, but I don’t think they realized what they are about to purchase. As far as I can tell the bronze and silver plans look like catastrophic coverage with no pre-conditions and maternity coverage. No sick visits or trips to the emergency room get covered until you meet an amazingly high deductible. Some people might be thinking they are getting a good deal with a huge premium subsidy from the government, but they are in for a rude awakening the first time they go to the doctor, and the second time, and the third time, etc. their insurance won’t kick in until they’ve forked out a lot of money.


3 posted on 10/04/2013 12:30:34 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: All

“........................One brave soul with a pre-existing condition managed to make it through the craptastic billion-dollar ObamaCare system and discovered $597 monthly premiums with a fourteen thousand dollar yearly deductible. The fine for non-compliance with King Obama’s generous offer turned out to be $4000 per year. Hesitate to give the King his tithe, and you’re going to lose your drivers’ license, and maybe get a nice tax lien on your house. But his loyal army of bureaucratic servants will be happy to vacuum your tax… no, wait it’s a penalty, only Tea Party extremists would call it a tax… no, wait it’s a tax, Mister Chief Justice, we swear on a stack of sacred paperwork!… right out of your bank account. Wait until the first tax/penalty bites cost some poor soul a few thousand bucks in bounced check charges… all so he can afford the privilege of pretending he’s as free as a pre-Obama American.

It’s a horror show, sure… but the computer kinks will eventually be worked out (and if you refuse to pay higher taxes to make that happen, you’re a teabagging anarchist!) and there will be some people who decide they like their benefits, especially if they come from a blue state where Democrats have already comprehensively destroyed the health insurance market. Their happiness will be cultivated; complaints will be ignored; jaw-dropping failure will become an irresistible demand for more spending to “fix” everything. The resulting system will provide leverage to ensure public submission on any number of other issues. Today, the price of defying despotism is a line of barricades across public memorials. Tomorrow, it will be the credits and subsidies that keep our centrally controlled health insurance system groaning along. The day after that, it will be access to your doctor under single-payer socialized medicine.

If you value your freedom and dignity, this is the right time to fight ObamaCare to the end.”

http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/03/next-time-democrats-will-take-your-doctor-hostage/


4 posted on 10/04/2013 12:31:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: fortheDeclaration; USNBandit; All

“.............Accountable care organizations (ACOs) are established in the Affordable Care Act under a Medicare Shared Savings Program (Sec 3022). The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) defines ACOs as “groups of doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers, who come together voluntarily to give coordinated high quality care to their Medicare patients.” It further states that “[w]hen an ACO succeeds in both delivering high-quality care and spending health care dollars more wisely, it will share in the savings it achieves for the Medicare program.” Translated into practical, real-world terms: when an ACO delivers care to predetermined standards and spends less health care dollars to do so, it can see a bonus. The concerning features now become who sets the standards of care and how it is possible to spend less money and provide high-quality care.

The first question is relatively easy to answer, because there is a set list of things that need to be reported in order for an ACO to be considered legitimate. There are a total of 33 items on this list, known as quality performance standards, that will be evaluated for each ACO. These standards are made up of both subjective and objective measures of performance. The law is vague as to whether these standards will be compared to other ACOs or to some national average for interpretation, and, according to the affordable care act, the standards are subject to change: “The Secretary shall seek to improve the quality of care furnished by ACOs over time by specifying higher standards, new measures, or both for purposes of assessing such quality of care..............”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/10/the_hidden_dangers_of_accountable_care_organizations.html


5 posted on 10/04/2013 12:33:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
But before Obama's legacy is decided, Democratic lawmakers facing elections next year will face a verdict on Obamacare that could make or break their careers.

Well.... with Rs and us conservatives FINALLY feeling our oats maybe midterms will destroy dems in both chambers. I can even dream of veto proof numbers. Wouldn't that be a hoot... shoving a repeal bill up 0dumbo's throat with a veto override LOFL

6 posted on 10/04/2013 3:04:23 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I freaking LOVE IT.
Just wait till the Shiet hits the fan.
I see the wheels coming off, the walls will come tumbling down. . . Big Time.
Of course he will blame the Republicans and 43% will believe him.
That leaves 57% that don't buy his bull sheit.
7 posted on 10/04/2013 3:27:05 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I want my FREE health Care Now like you promised ZERO. What? It's Not Free?)
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To: USNBandit
They will actually have to pay the premiums and the deductibles for it to actually have any benefit to them. They will also have to report their income and file tax returns to get the tax credit.

Emergency rooms will still be the health care provider of choice for low income Americans and illegal immigrants.

8 posted on 10/04/2013 3:41:26 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Careful what you wish for. The reason Obama doesn’t want to put Obamacare off for one year is right now people are pissed about the roll out. They see how much it will cost and are not happy. By the this time next year you can be darn sure over 50% of the population will have free health care. After the election they will start cutting the subsidies and lowering the limit to free Obamacare. By then it will be too late.


9 posted on 10/04/2013 3:45:06 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: DeaconRed

Time to stock up on popcorn.


10 posted on 10/04/2013 4:09:00 AM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: ez
"Time to stock up on popcorn."

10-4 and precious metals.
No not gold, silver & platinum.
Lead, copper & brass. .. .

11 posted on 10/04/2013 4:28:13 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I want my FREE health Care Now like you promised ZERO. What? It's Not Free?)
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To: fortheDeclaration

According to a Gallup poll released earlier this week, 69% of young adults don’t even KNOW they are required to purchase health insurance or pay a penalty.

They are just starting to find this out and they are ticked.

Guess they’ll have to beg Pop to take them back on his plan as long as they’re 26 or younger.


12 posted on 10/04/2013 6:08:50 AM PDT by randita
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To: listenhillary

Exactly. I think there is going to be a lot of screaming when people figure out that Obamacare isn’t what they thought it was.


13 posted on 10/04/2013 9:13:20 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Website excerpt:

These Silver plans are specific to individual and family members. Click here to learn about how the Silver plan works for Small Business Employers and Employees with ObamaCare.

Benefits Silver Health Plan*
Deductible $2,000 Med
Preventive $0
Doctor’s Office Visits $45
Specialist $65
Generic Rx $19
Brand RX $50 *after $500 Rx deduct
Lab Testing $45
X-ray $65
Maternity 20% *after deduct
Out-patient Surgery 20% *after deduct
Hospital Stay 20% *after deduct
ER Visit $250 *after deduct
Urgent Care $90
Out-of-Pocket Max $6,350/$12,700 (ind/fam)

*California was the first to release its Healthcare Exchange overview, and much of information we know so far is based on their figures. CHART UPDATED 9/26/13. For information about specific details of the Bronze health plan in your state call 800-930-7956.

How Much is the Silver Premium?

Premiums depend on provider, age, state, region, and whether you qualify for a federal premium exchange subsidy. With California’s numbers being the first available their average Silver plan for a 21 year old is $191 without subsidies, but can be as low as $41 a month, and CA’s average Silver plan for a 40 year old is $226, and may go as low as $37 a month depending if you qualify for a subsidy.


Comparing Silver Plans to Other ObamaCare Plans
The Silver Plan will offer the second lowest monthly premium, however it is the only plan that allows for cost-sharing subsidies if you qualify. 


The initial enrollment period for the Healthcare Exchange is from October 1, 2013 to March 31, 2014. For questions about the Silver Plan in your state please contact Medicoverage.



14 posted on 10/04/2013 10:13:50 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: DeaconRed

Done. And at maximum expense I might add. Wish I planned ahead.


15 posted on 10/04/2013 12:29:06 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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