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The Deficit is actually DECREASING during shutdown! Share this link!
US Debt Clock ^ | 10/3/2013 | self

Posted on 10/03/2013 9:12:43 AM PDT by DouglasKC

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Share this link everywhere and highlight how the deficit is being reduced during the slimdown!
1 posted on 10/03/2013 9:12:43 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Thank you Republicans for not backing down and shutting down the government. Maybe now finally Americans will realize that 99% of the government is not needed.And we might pay off the debt if we keep the EPA ,IRS , NSA etc not funded! this is the best thing ever that Republicans did shutting down the gov and not backing down to the media.

twitter #Holdtheline Republicans


2 posted on 10/03/2013 9:14:50 AM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: DouglasKC

Until all the tit-suckers get their back pay for their current vacations.


3 posted on 10/03/2013 9:14:56 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Cruz Control 2016!)
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To: DouglasKC

No need to raise the debt limit now.


4 posted on 10/03/2013 9:14:59 AM PDT by black_diamond
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To: DouglasKC

This is great. It’s like when Bath-house Barry goes golfing all the time.

He does the country a favor when he’s not at the White Hut but instead is golfing or even taking his (almost) monthly million dollar vacations.


5 posted on 10/03/2013 9:16:53 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DouglasKC

Did someone forget they get backpay when they get back to work?


6 posted on 10/03/2013 9:17:27 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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To: DouglasKC

Uhhh—spending is going down, but debt is still rising


7 posted on 10/03/2013 9:20:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: DouglasKC

Except that like every other shutdown, federal employees will be paid whatever they lost during their furlough period.


8 posted on 10/03/2013 9:20:37 AM PDT by kabar
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To: DouglasKC

I don’t think federal spending is really down very much. Only suspended. It will catch up after the shutdown is over. Feds will get fully compensated while they’re off and contractors will still get paid becuase of contracts that are in force.


9 posted on 10/03/2013 9:20:54 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: DouglasKC
Exactly right.

Apparently all prior furloughed employees were fully paid following all 17 prior shutdowns.

Just one big paid vacation for non-essential (i.e., not needed) fed workers! They are at the bars and golf courses. Nice work if you can get it.

10 posted on 10/03/2013 9:21:25 AM PDT by dan on the right
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To: CincyRichieRich
Did someone forget they get backpay when they get back to work?

Yeah but you're missing the point. We're not paying them right now and 99% of America isn't being affected in any way shape or form. Government is bloated and fat and the shutdown highlights this perfectly.

11 posted on 10/03/2013 9:21:51 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Atlas Sneezed

Bingo. The useless federal workers are enjoying their little paid vacation just like Lois Lerner is.


12 posted on 10/03/2013 9:22:45 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Not necessarily. It takes action from Congress to approve.


13 posted on 10/03/2013 9:23:11 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: DouglasKC

That link shows the debt still rising.


14 posted on 10/03/2013 9:23:37 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
That link shows the debt still rising.

The deficit though is going down.

Our debt in increasing presumably because of interest payments on the debt we owe.

15 posted on 10/03/2013 9:25:32 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

That is pretty sweet.
Sending it to all I can.


16 posted on 10/03/2013 9:26:27 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: ShadowAce
Uhhh—spending is going down, but debt is still rising

I think because of paying interest on the debt we already owe....the DEFICIT, the amount we spend versus what we take in , is going DOWN...which means we are living within our means WHILE the slimdown is in effect.

And if we can do THAT with little or no hardship for the VAST MAJORITY of Americans then WHY can't we do it all the time?

17 posted on 10/03/2013 9:28:32 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Okay, thanks.

So we are still digging from the whole we are in, just digging a little slower.

Cheers


18 posted on 10/03/2013 9:28:41 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: DouglasKC

Agreed. This shows we can wlive pretty well just by eliminating the EPA. :)


19 posted on 10/03/2013 9:30:14 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: DouglasKC


AND NOW THE GOOD NEWS!

20 posted on 10/03/2013 9:33:10 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: DouglasKC

$170,000,000 per day


21 posted on 10/03/2013 9:34:13 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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That’s a lot of money we don’t have.


22 posted on 10/03/2013 9:35:00 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

In 10,000 days we will have no deficit.


23 posted on 10/03/2013 9:35:53 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: All
This is the point: The DEFICIT, the amount we spend versus what we take in , is going DOWN...which means we are living within our means WHILE the slimdown is in effect. We're not spending more than we're taking in.

And if we can do THAT with little or no hardship for the VAST MAJORITY of Americans then WHY can't we do it all the time?

This is the purpose of highlighting it. To show the sheeple the bloated bureaucracy isn't' needed.

Think about it: The WORST horror stories we are hearing about the shutdown is that people...gasp...HAVE to do something else while on vacation because they can't go to a park!

Wow...that's SOME hardship right?

24 posted on 10/03/2013 9:36:13 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Hot Darn! Anybody remember the great victory this was back in the Clinton era? When it theoretically went backwards very briefly.
25 posted on 10/03/2013 9:37:12 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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digging from the whole hole we are in

sigh...

26 posted on 10/03/2013 9:37:16 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: DouglasKC

Somebody get this to Rush. Maybe he’ll pick up on it.


27 posted on 10/03/2013 9:38:51 AM PDT by McGruff (Mr. Cruz goes to Washington.)
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To: DouglasKC

AS long as when GOP caves they dont pay all those GSes for the time they were off during shutdown. Then it cost more as it did in 1996.

What??

Rush didnt tell his listeners that’s what the GOP (Newt) did in 1996? The big Newt victory??


28 posted on 10/03/2013 9:39:33 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: DouglasKC
The DEFICIT, the amount we spend versus what we take in , is going DOWN...which means we are living within our means WHILE the slimdown is in effect. We're not spending more than we're taking in.

No. As long as their IS a deficit, we are spending more than we are taking in.

The debt is the accumulation, the deficit is the spending less revenue. We are not digging as fast as we were, but we are still digging our hole.

29 posted on 10/03/2013 9:40:01 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: black_diamond
No need to raise the debt limit now.


Watch closer grasshopper. The budget deficit is going down, but the national debt is climbing. In the short time I watched it. We borrowed another $1,000,000; I wish I could talk my bank into letting me do that and print my own money too. At least we are taking a little baby step in the right direction.

30 posted on 10/03/2013 9:42:33 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: DouglasKC

Thank you Republicans for not backing down and shutting down the government!

maybe now Americans will realize that government is not needed as nothing is happening even though the gov is shut down


31 posted on 10/03/2013 9:43:29 AM PDT by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: DouglasKC

Huh? The debt will rise as long as there is a deficit. You need budget surpluses if you want to reduce the debt. The article is only pointing out that the deficit is decreasing. Not to be confused with the debt.


32 posted on 10/03/2013 9:44:34 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: thackney
No. As long as their IS a deficit, we are spending more than we are taking in. The debt is the accumulation, the deficit is the spending less revenue. We are not digging

Yah ya but again the POINT is that the deficit is going down and hardly anyone is being affected.

This is why dems are screaming like stuck pigs. They HAVE to make noise because eventually people will wake up and realize...hey...is the government still shutdown? I didn't even notice.

33 posted on 10/03/2013 9:48:14 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Huh? The debt will rise as long as there is a deficit. You need budget surpluses if you want to reduce the debt. The article is only pointing out that the deficit is decreasing. Not to be confused with the debt.

Sure your'e right..but again that's not the point.

34 posted on 10/03/2013 9:49:35 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: thackney

Wholly cow! Sum won takes there grammar way to serious. ;)


35 posted on 10/03/2013 9:50:32 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (My sweet talk is also savory and creamy.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

I suspect this doesn’t really need explanation among this group, but the national debt will keep rising until the federal government begins producing a surplus. While the deficit is falling at the moment, it’s still a LOOOOOOOOONG way from zero.


36 posted on 10/03/2013 9:53:37 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (My sweet talk is also savory and creamy.)
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To: sickoflibs
AS long as when GOP caves they dont pay all those GSes for the time they were off during shutdown. Then it cost more as it did in 1996.

It doesn't matter.

The point is that the US government is spending LESS money, right now, and virtually nobody is being negatively affected.

The longer it goes on, the more people will see that the libs cries that we need to constantly increase government spending is just that...a lie.

37 posted on 10/03/2013 9:55:42 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Atlas Sneezed
Even in shutdown, Feds get overtime, comp time, 'Sunday pay'

http://washingtonexaminer.com/even-in-shutdown-feds-get-overtime-comp-time-sunday-pay/article/2536565

  Washington Sees Incomes Soar as Most of U.S. Declines

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/09/19/washington-sees-incomes-soar-as-most-of-u-s-declines/?mod=WSJ__MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird

Nearly Three-Quarters of Jobs Created Since June Are in Government

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldoherty/2012/12/08/nearly_threequarters_of_jobs_created_since_june_are_in_government

Shutdown Preparations Prove Most Government Is Waste

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/093013-673139-most-of-white-house-staff-revealed-as-waste.htm

38 posted on 10/03/2013 9:59:59 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: DouglasKC

GREAT POST. THANKS!


39 posted on 10/03/2013 10:03:34 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: DouglasKC

I suspect you may need a different approach to your point.

The folks that support a bigger government are not likely convinced by math. They need feelings and emotional support, not facts.

I believe a bigger point to the conservatives is even during a government “shutdown” we are STILL spending more than we take in. This beast is sooooo huge it will take a continuous effort to starve it. We need to not let up if we win the current battles; the war is much larger.


40 posted on 10/03/2013 10:06:18 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: DouglasKC

This is both HUGH and SERIES!!!!


41 posted on 10/03/2013 10:06:55 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: DouglasKC

Dems would not mind a short (2-3 days) shutdown, because they could turn that into a political goldmine for the 2014 elections.

Dems fear a long shutdown, because they fear many of their supporters might actually realize we don’t need many of those government agencies after all.

Pubbies fear a short shutdown, because they know they will get the blame.

Pubbies fear a long shutdown, because they know they will get the blame.


42 posted on 10/03/2013 10:06:57 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: DouglasKC; Admin Moderator

Whoever put this thread in Breaking News, thank you.


43 posted on 10/03/2013 10:07:34 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: DouglasKC

Uh...what number is going down? I don’t see it.


44 posted on 10/03/2013 10:15:00 AM PDT by the_boy_who_got_lost
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To: DouglasKC

Can someone get this out to everybody?


45 posted on 10/03/2013 10:15:05 AM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: DouglasKC

I sent my Republican congressman an e mail today in support of the shut down and got no reply. I sent my most wonderful Dem. senator Feinstein an e mail and got the reply “ As a result of the Government shut down, my office is currently unable to respond to your email. I will respond to your concerns as soon as possible.”


46 posted on 10/03/2013 10:23:14 AM PDT by Rj Snows
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To: rurgan
Thank you Republicans for not backing down and NOT shutting down the government.
47 posted on 10/03/2013 10:30:56 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: DouglasKC

You have to count the interest on the debt as part of what we are spending Vs what we are taking in.

We can’t magically not include it. In fact if interest rates were to rise to 10 percent then I believe that around 100 percent of what we take in would be needed to pay interest on the debt.


48 posted on 10/03/2013 10:49:44 AM PDT by Revel
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To: DouglasKC

I was hoping there would be a visual to represent this, so thanks for the link.


49 posted on 10/03/2013 10:50:45 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: black_diamond

Why should they get paid for work they didn’t do? I don’t get paid for work I don’t do.


50 posted on 10/03/2013 10:51:21 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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