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Donna Brazile takes on food stamp critics
CNN ^ | October 1, 2013 | Donna Brazile, vice chair, DNC

Posted on 10/03/2013 2:19:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

After the vote in the House of Representatives to slash the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, I wrote a column against cutting food stamps. This column generated more than 5,200 online comments and hundreds of e-mails.

Comments reflected, not surprisingly, the tone and tenor of the political debate: a lot of partisan passion, some mutual understanding, animosity based on stereotypes and a lot of misinformation.

I would like to address some of the typical concerns that were expressed.

For example, "Willis CurryFans" wrote, "These wealthy Republicans spend a lot of time RUNNING from the typical black person this affects. If they came and visited some of these neighborhoods, they would see folks that they KNOW they won't give a job to."

But who are the people using food stamps? They're us.

The Census Bureau, which gathers statistics house by house, reports that Americans on food stamps are 49% white, 26% African-American and 20% Hispanic. The Pew Research Center, a nonprofit polling firm, found in a July survey that self-identified liberals, moderates and conservatives who receive food stamps are in a statistical tie.

A lot of people who commented on the column wanted to regulate what foodstuffs program participants can buy -- often not realizing that alcohol and prepared foods are banned. And many respondents bashed food stamp recipients, declaring they should "get a job," "stop having kids on my dime" or giving a variation on such cliches....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blacks; bush; congress; foodstamps; obama; recession; unemployment; welfare
During the Katrina mess, I was told in no uncertain terms by the bureaucrats that middle-aged white males are for paying taxes, not getting food stamps and other benefits.
1 posted on 10/03/2013 2:19:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You just know some dummy is going to read this and think that it means that 49% of white Americans are on food stamps but only 26% of black Americans.


2 posted on 10/03/2013 2:23:32 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

Whites make up about 73% of the population, blacks 12%.


3 posted on 10/03/2013 2:27:02 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know.


4 posted on 10/03/2013 2:28:33 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Americans on food stamps are 49% white, 26% African-American and 20% Hispanic. Interestingly misleading numbers. What percentage of the total population is each group? Oh never mind. I forgot the article is aimed at democrats and they don’t understand math anyway.


5 posted on 10/03/2013 2:30:33 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...they would see folks that they KNOW they won’t give a job to.”

Jobs are not given away.


6 posted on 10/03/2013 2:34:23 AM PDT by FreeperCell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
self-identified liberals, moderates and conservatives who receive food stamps are in a statistical tie.

It's not about being on food stamps, it's about staying on them well past the point that a person/family needs the help. That's when they become a problem for everyone else--when they become dependent by choice b/c it's just easier that way.

7 posted on 10/03/2013 2:35:57 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Total population 308,745,538
White 223,553,265 72.4 %
African American 38,929,319 12.6 %
Hispanic or Latino 50,477,594 16.4 %
8 posted on 10/03/2013 2:36:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: mrsmel

Wrong. Many dummies will read it that way. ; )


9 posted on 10/03/2013 2:38:27 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I knew that. But thanks for posting it. ; )


10 posted on 10/03/2013 2:45:02 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; mrsmel

From those numbers, a black person is 3 times more likely that a white person to be on food stamps.


11 posted on 10/03/2013 3:02:45 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: chopperman

Why else would Donna Brazille care?

She sure doesn’t care about the white people.


12 posted on 10/03/2013 3:06:48 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

She also claims that having children that their parents can’t afford doesn’t drive food stamp use, then a few paragraphs down says that represents 72% of food stamp use.

As to them being “us”, we know that twice as many Americans identify themselves as conservatives, rather than liberals, but voting outcomes don’t reflect that—and the conservative identity of those on food stamps is half that ratio of Americans overall anyway.

As to the racial makeup, the only way she can get to even her numbers, according to this USDA data from 2010 on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supplemental_Nutrition_Assistance_Program#cite_note-usdafaq-11, the USDA site itself is now of course down) is by counting those of “unknown” race as white, the “known” figures are 37% white and 22% black.

Then that claim about that more were added to the rolls under Bush than Obama? Look at the charts on the wikipedia page: From 2008 to 2012, the number getting food stamps increased from 28 million to 46 Bush, and also far more than the reported rise of unemployment, including families for the increase in the unemployed—to counter two of her misstatements at once.

Oh, and for those who complain about it funding junk food? She says that alcohol and prepared foods are banned, but it is actually only hot prepared foods (which don’t tend to be junk food, but are more expensive than friggin’ fixing a meal yourself) that are banned. She even later suggests paying “bonuses” for those who purchase healthy foods with their food stamps. She also suggests increasing the minimum wage, which would, of course, increase numbers of the unemployed to go on the SNAP rolls.

She also tries to refute a comment that recipients make sure not to make enough money to get kicked off the program by saying the unemployed childless (so, again, you do need children you can’t afford to access the program!) can only get limited benefits without entering a job training program.

She claims that Obama encouraged more work requirements, but the truth is that he removed work requirements while somehow ‘encouraging’ them.

She then moves on to the old canard that food stamp benefits are meager, at an average of $133 per person a month. But that’s not low for someone really watching costs, half of the beneficiaries are either small children or those getting fed in school, the program by name is just supposed to be “Supplemental”—and of course that average includes people making enough money to get less than the regular maximum benefit.

All told, I don’t think I can find a single point in this entire piece that isn’t false or so misleading as to be false. Brazile is actually a vice chairwoman of the DNC, which a lot of people don’t realize, and this propaganda may well be a product of the DNC. But it is so dishonest that it could be used as an instructional example in how much misinformation gets generated by our so-called ‘news’ organizations.


13 posted on 10/03/2013 3:10:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Venturer

“Why else would Donna Brazille care? She sure doesn’t care about the white people.”

She’s angry that she belongs to a globally-reviled people.


14 posted on 10/03/2013 3:51:11 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (The talking heads have admitted is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 9YearLurker
She then moves on to the old canard that food stamp benefits are meager, at an average of $133 per person a month. But that’s not low for someone really watching costs, half of the beneficiaries are either small children or those getting fed in school, the program by name is just supposed to be “Supplemental”—and of course that average includes people making enough money to get less than the regular maximum benefit.

And food stamps (or EBT cards) or only one of the half dozen taxpayer-funded ways for people to get food. I haven't seen many underweight people on them.

And the cash part of EBT is even accepted for cigarettes in some places. So we pay for their nicotine habit, and the healthcare to treat the ensuing problems, while being penalised yet more money if we smoke. Unreal.
15 posted on 10/03/2013 3:55:34 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: kearnyirish2

She and those like her are one reason they are globally reviled


16 posted on 10/03/2013 4:10:04 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: mrsmel

Hollywood Casinos accept EBT cards.


17 posted on 10/03/2013 5:53:11 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: Future Snake Eater

For some, like me, it’s more about the forced ‘charity’ at the point of a gun. 2nd is the abuse and generational misuse; and since gov’t doesn’t care about fraud (it’s not their $$), it makes the 1st point all that more contemptible.


18 posted on 10/03/2013 8:29:55 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Basically we agree that she is FOS.


19 posted on 10/03/2013 8:34:33 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (What's the frequency, Kenneth?)
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To: 9YearLurker

You also forget the charges at the local strip club and/or casino/track/etc.; which, IIRC, Florida is just NOW talking about cracking down upon (maybe, one day, they’ll get around to the actual fraud and start tossing some in JAIL).

Let’s not get into the EBT for $$ ‘exchanges’ that frequently go on...


20 posted on 10/03/2013 8:34:52 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: i_robot73

I don’t generally mind the first part. It’s difficult to find the help you may need without a known “go to this place” kind of deal. Sure, churches, but, honestly, that’s a big “maybe.”

Your second point is where I hate the system, too. Maybe you can’t have the first without the second following for the reasons you stated? I don’t know.


21 posted on 10/03/2013 8:57:53 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What % are George Zimmerman?


22 posted on 10/03/2013 3:54:25 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: HenpeckedCon

Black or African American Hispanic 1,243,471 0.4 %


23 posted on 10/03/2013 4:22:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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