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Md. Law Repealing Death Penalty Goes Into Effect [Crime Rate Will SOAR]
WHAG-TV ^ | 10/1/13 | Dawn White

Posted on 10/02/2013 2:46:41 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Maryland's law repealing the death penalty went into effect Tuesday.

Maryland is now the 18th state to end capital punishment.

Those found guilty of first-degree murder will now face a life sentence or life without the possibility of parole.

(Excerpt) Read more at your4state.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: bluestates; crime; death; deathpenalty; dopeydems; maryland; murder
Get ready for murder to skyrocket in Maryland.

Nice move, Demon Rats.

1 posted on 10/02/2013 2:46:41 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why would murder skyrocket? You think life in prison is any better?


2 posted on 10/02/2013 2:52:34 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

I see your point. Jeff Dahmer still got executed just not by the state.


3 posted on 10/02/2013 2:55:23 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Actually, I don’t think the impact will be on the murder rate but on the state’s ability to get criminals to turn informer or to plead guilty to a lesser offense.

Our criminal justice system is (probably mercifully) weak. The death penalty is a tool to force either cooperation or a plea deal. Without it the state will be much weaker. There will be fewer convictions and much less cooperation.


4 posted on 10/02/2013 3:08:17 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: FreedomStar3028

In his earlier days Hitler faced the possibility of execution for treason. I, for one, believe the world would have been a better place had he been executed.


5 posted on 10/02/2013 3:12:29 AM PDT by monocle
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To: FreedomStar3028

See here: http://bearsden77.blogspot.com/2007/12/new-jersey-and-death-penalty.html?m=1

Not my blog, btw.


6 posted on 10/02/2013 3:13:54 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Not to change the subject, but someone planted a suitcase bomb at Sea World. They did find it and blew it up outside the gate. Don’t really know much else yet.


7 posted on 10/02/2013 3:21:10 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My CAPS work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Needed- Low cost incarceration facility. Send proposal to The State of Maryland.


8 posted on 10/02/2013 3:27:58 AM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Baltimore county borders the city and that threat has been keeping us safer. The criminals know that and the crime rate will soar.


9 posted on 10/02/2013 3:28:36 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The death penalty could be a deterrent if not for 30 years of appeals in its current form. Could be.


10 posted on 10/02/2013 3:32:12 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: All

when was the last time they exercised it?


11 posted on 10/02/2013 3:32:24 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Death is death. ‘Life in prison’ isn’t. It is all part of the liberal thinking that it isn’t the criminals fault for the crime.


12 posted on 10/02/2013 3:48:16 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: MestaMachine

“Not to change the subject, but someone planted a suitcase bomb at Sea World....”
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Probably that damned killer whale again. He should have been given the death penalty.


13 posted on 10/02/2013 3:51:24 AM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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To: RedMDer

Yep. Amazing, isn’t it, that humankind has to keep learning the same lessons over and over and over.


14 posted on 10/02/2013 3:52:04 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Get ready for murder to skyrocket in Maryland.

There is no statisitcally significant relationship between a state's homocide rate and its death penalty laws.

15 posted on 10/02/2013 4:10:31 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: MestaMachine

Fox news just reported. You beat them to it. :)


16 posted on 10/02/2013 4:14:33 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Labyrinthos

Here in Baltimore County we have 1 or 2 murders a year.
Baltimore City has 300+. They haven’t enforced the penalty for decades.


17 posted on 10/02/2013 4:18:35 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I will predict today that at some point in the future, one (or more) of those on death row will be let out of prison and will go on to murder someone.

How many innocent people must die so liberals can feel good about themselves?


18 posted on 10/02/2013 4:19:05 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yep. Brace yourself.


19 posted on 10/02/2013 4:19:36 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

See Dukakis.


20 posted on 10/02/2013 4:21:09 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Get ready for murder to skyrocket in Maryland

I don't think so.

There is no evidence that the death penalty serves as a deterrent to murder.

I think it is an entirely appropriate punishment for certain crimes, but I recognize that it is punitive in nature, and does not really work as a means to convince others not to commit the most heinous of crimes.

21 posted on 10/02/2013 4:24:25 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Labyrinthos
There is no statisitcally significant relationship between a state's homocide rate and its death penalty laws.

There you go again, introducing facts into perfectly good rant material.

22 posted on 10/02/2013 4:24:38 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Get ready for murder to skyrocket in Maryland.

Yeah I'm sure all those gang bangers and pissed off spouses have been saying, "Boy if it weren't for that death penalty law I'd kill that miserable so-and-so." </sarcasm>

23 posted on 10/02/2013 4:30:02 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: WayneS; SoFloFreeper
I'm actually somewhat undecided on this.

I believe in the death penalty..that some crimes are so heinous that society has the right to execute the perpetrators.

OTOH, if it takes 20 years, or 30, or never, to carry out the sentence, then that makes a travesty of the law. Also, millions are spent on appeals ..I'd rather see the families of the victims get that money, instead of lawyers.

Re: life without parole...there is already a nascent movement among the loony-left criminal defense bar that it is also a "cruel and unusual" punishment. Look for this effort to expand.

In California, where the jails are overcrowded, criminals are actually refusing to accept life-without-parole please, because the courts have mandated that death-row inmates get better facilities, care, amenities. They know they likely will never get executed, the sentence won't get carried out...so they don't take the deal.

And of course, this puts prison guards and all who have to deal with inmates at risk...violent offenders doing life without parole can in effect kill at will..with no risk of punishment..

24 posted on 10/02/2013 4:38:41 AM PDT by ken5050 (Benghazi investigation update: "The plot thickens, like Hillary Clinton's ankles.." (longfellow")
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To: ken5050
OTOH, if it takes 20 years, or 30, or never, to carry out the sentence, then that makes a travesty of the law. Also, millions are spent on appeals ..I'd rather see the families of the victims get that money, instead of lawyers.

You make a good point. There are no circumstances in which a death penalty appeal should drag on for even 10 years. If a death penalty case is not clear-cut enough to justify a fair but short (say, maximum 5 years) appeal process, then perhaps a death sentence is not appropriate in that particular instance.

25 posted on 10/02/2013 4:45:10 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Get ready for murder to skyrocket in Maryland.

Unlikely. Most criminals don't think past the next 2 minutes or at most to their next fix. Doubt that they'll take this into acccount. The real problem lies with the families of the victims never seeing closure (even the feeble sort of seeing the murderer executed). The other problem is that "life in prison" is often NOT life and the scumbag will get out eventually.

26 posted on 10/02/2013 4:54:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: WayneS

I can give evidence that after Execution no Murderer has ever killed again.

It is a deterrent if used in it’s proper way.

It is no deterrent when it takes 20 years to have it performed.

By the way our Governor Owe Malley is a POS of the highest order.


27 posted on 10/02/2013 5:00:08 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: RedMDer
Here in Baltimore County we have 1 or 2 murders a year. Baltimore City has 300+. They haven’t enforced the penalty for decades.

OK. New York and Wisconsin don't have a death penalty and there homocide rates are ~ 20% and 50% below the national average, respectively. Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia, and Alabama are four of the most active death penalty states and their homocide rates exceed the national average by ~10% or more. The statisitcs show that a state's homocide rate has nothing to do with death penalty laws or the number of executions and everything to do with demographics.

28 posted on 10/02/2013 5:03:14 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: WayneS

The endless delays are a function of the courts...mainly liberal judges who are willing to grant appeal after appeal..because they oppose the death penalty..and you’ll never be able to fix that.


29 posted on 10/02/2013 5:33:14 AM PDT by ken5050 (Benghazi investigation update: "The plot thickens, like Hillary Clinton's ankles.." (longfellow")
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To: Red in Blue PA

I have advocated eliminating the death penalty for that reason and the expense (and enrichment of lawyers) of the appeal process. Why spend the money to keep them alive during the appeals and paying for the appeals? Put a large percentage of lawyers out of work and eliminate public guilt for executions of innocent people. Cheaper to let jailhouse justice work it out.


30 posted on 10/02/2013 5:34:28 AM PDT by az wildkitten (8 years 'til I retire)
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To: az wildkitten

Because I do not trust the govt, I am opposed to the death penalty, except in those cases where there is no doubt, such as the brutal killing of the Connecticut doctors family a few years ago.


31 posted on 10/02/2013 5:43:26 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Venturer

Who is to say the State wouldn’t attempt to get those who disagree with them on death row? That is the issue I have.


32 posted on 10/02/2013 5:44:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Five of the six states with the LOWEST murder rate have the death penalty. Source: http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2009/oct/05/us-homicide-rates#table1

The one exception is North Dakota, where other factors (ND is apparently in the top 10 states where citizens own guns-—see here: http://www.usacarry.com/forums/general-firearm-discussion/9841-percent-firearms-ownership-state.html) may account for the low murder rate.


33 posted on 10/02/2013 6:01:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Red in Blue PA; mickie; pax_et_bonum
"Who is to say the State wouldn't attempt to get those who disagree with them on death row? That is the issue I have."

The State, personified by Florida's prosecuting state's attorney, Angela Corey, would have put George Zimmerman on death row if she could have....and all for political-witch-hunt reasons, nothing more.

Leni

34 posted on 10/02/2013 6:10:56 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Labyrinthos

Just giving you my first hand experience. I live in Baltimore County.


35 posted on 10/02/2013 6:14:28 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: MinuteGal
The State, personified by Florida's prosecuting state's attorney, Angela Corey, would have put George Zimmerman on death row if she could have....and all for political-witch-hunt reasons, nothing more.

Precisely why I am against the death penatly except for the most heinous of crimes, when there is absolutely no doubt.

Why would people who mistrust the government give them free reign to kill?
36 posted on 10/02/2013 6:35:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SoFloFreeper

A soaring crime rate is the intention. That way, they can “crack down” on EVERYONE in the Formerly Free State.


37 posted on 10/02/2013 6:49:00 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Complete oppression — That is the result of a permanent democrat super-majority in the MD state assembly.

Good luck to all of those stuck behind enemy lines.


38 posted on 10/02/2013 7:16:43 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Make no mistake, gun control and the abolition of capital punishment are connected at the hip. If you want gun liberty, you truly need to execute the most heinous of criminals, and you need to do it expeditiously, not wait ten or twenty years to do so.

What America has been waiting for is a conservative congress, with conservative chairmen of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees, and a conservative POTUS, and there are several reforms that can be made quickly.

In order of importance, these reforms include:

1) Declare the individual states to be “competent authorities” to carry out executions “as they see fit”. This takes away the ability of anti-capital punishment federal judges to nit pick about *how* prisoners are executed.

2) Declare that only trial evidence can be included in an appeal, not outside or unrelated evidence like statistics about the death penalty.

3) Move all death penalty appeals to the head of the federal docket, with limits on how long the appeal can be delayed, to one month for the defense, one month for the prosecution, and one month at the discretion of the judge.

Just these things alone might reduce the wait for punishment by as much as half. Other, more technical reforms to reduce the delay to a maximum of five years.


39 posted on 10/02/2013 7:24:40 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (The best War on Terror News is at rantburg.com)
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To: deadrock
Death is death. ‘Life in prison’ isn’t.

Exactly. People escape from prison, they don't from the grave.

40 posted on 10/02/2013 2:58:48 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; ...

After all, we cannot simply kill potential Democrats in jail!

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


41 posted on 10/02/2013 8:13:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Gun sales are also skyrocketing in the People’s Republic.


42 posted on 10/03/2013 5:02:16 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
After all, we cannot simply kill potential Democrats in jail!

Look on the bright side: Obamacare will kill more of them in the womb! /sarc

43 posted on 10/03/2013 8:07:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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