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Obama spy panel is loaded with insiders, critics charge
McClatchyDC ^ | October 1, 2013 | By Anita Kumar

Posted on 10/01/2013 5:43:50 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

WASHINGTON — After a public backlash to government spying, President Barack Obama called for an independent group to review the vast surveillance programs that allow the collections of phone and email records.

Now, weeks before the group’s first report is due, some lawmakers, technology organizations and civil liberties groups are concerned that the panel’s members are too close to the Obama administration and its mission too vague to provide a thorough scrubbing of the National Security Agency technologies that have guided intelligence gathering since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

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The members of the review group are Richard Clarke, the chief counterterrorism adviser on the National Security Council for Clinton who later worked for Republican President George W. Bush; Michael Morell, Obama’s former deputy CIA director; law professor Geoffrey Stone, who has raised money for Obama and spearheads a committee hoping to build Obama’s presidential library in Chicago; law professor Cass Sunstein, administrator of information and regulatory affairs for Obama; and Peter Swire, a former Office of Management and Budget privacy director for Clinton.

“At the end of the day, a task force led by Gen. Clapper full of insiders – and not directed to look at the extensive abuse – will never get at the bottom of the unconstitutional spying,” said Mark Jaycox, a policy analyst for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a privacy advocacy group.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; benghazi; clapper; coverup; fastandfurious; govtabuse; impeachnow; irs; nsa; nsapanel; nsascandal; nsataskforce; obama; obamansa; obamasfault; scandals; soros; sunstein; tyranny
The NSA may be added to a growing list of federal agencies used by the White House to spy on or punish opponents.
1 posted on 10/01/2013 5:43:50 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

NSA / KGB really what difference does it make.


2 posted on 10/01/2013 5:45:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
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3 posted on 10/01/2013 5:48:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Obie loves him some surveillance.


4 posted on 10/01/2013 5:50:15 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: mylife

Justice Department Expands Hunt for Data on Cellphones

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/justice-department-expands-hunt-for-data-on-cellphones/

Obama’s NSA eavesdropping goes beyond that of Bush... after campaigning on the promise of: “ No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me!”

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9845595-7.html

headlines read: “NSA Exceeds Legal Limits In Eavesdropping Program” , “ U.S. phone intercepts go beyond legal limits” , and “NSA Found Improperly Spying on Americans”.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123985123667923961.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

http://uk.reuters.com/article/burningIssues/idUKTRE53F09820090416

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/justice-dept-nsa-improperly-spied-americans/

Where is the outcry from the ACLU and the 1st Amendment protectors? I would think reporters would fear this and report on it.

Oh well, nevermind, as long as we FEEL safer and it’s not BUSH!


5 posted on 10/01/2013 6:00:03 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni

> WASHINGTON — After a public backlash to government spying, President Barack Obama called for an independent group to review the vast surveillance programs that allow the collections of phone and email records.

Now, weeks before the group’s first report is due, some lawmakers, technology organizations and civil liberties groups are concerned that the panel’s members are too close to the Obama administration and its mission too vague to provide a thorough scrubbing of the National Security Agency technologies that have guided intelligence gathering since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Unbiased and truthful report I’m sure..../s


6 posted on 10/01/2013 6:03:31 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: TurboZamboni

Obama has increased domestic surveillance 4 fold.


7 posted on 10/01/2013 6:03:53 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: driftdiver
NSA / KGB really what difference does it make.

Well Putin seems to be promoting Christianity and opposing Islam these days.

8 posted on 10/01/2013 6:04:59 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Is the House actually taking any action/holding oversight hearings/prosecutions/etc. related to all these NSA revelations, or did Boehner just pretend like none of this stuff came to light?


9 posted on 10/01/2013 6:12:43 PM PDT by seacapn
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To: cripplecreek

I should thank you, your graphics are amazing!

Fuk I’m pissed, I called this. I still can’t believe it is happening and no repercussions at all.

The gov is truly not with the people! They are against them, and consider them slaves.


10 posted on 10/01/2013 6:26:19 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Been there, done that. I believe information they have gathered has already been used for political purposes.


11 posted on 10/01/2013 6:34:47 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Brad from Tennessee

You would have to be Slow Joe Biden or Manchin to believe that His Arrogance would appoint independent outside individuals .... that’s not how you run a coverup.


12 posted on 10/01/2013 6:52:34 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (A civilian forece funded and equal to the military ... Obama/DHS & Hitler/Gestapo & Stalin/KGB)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I hope no one is surprised by this.

What else would you expect.


13 posted on 10/01/2013 7:18:44 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Whitewash In Progress....


14 posted on 10/01/2013 7:39:30 PM PDT by shego
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To: driftdiver

Are you REALLY equating NSA to the KGB?


15 posted on 10/01/2013 7:46:37 PM PDT by Ax
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Satan has his minions.


16 posted on 10/01/2013 7:51:27 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Who am I to judge homosexuals? That's what the Tony Awards are for.)
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To: driftdiver

17 posted on 10/01/2013 9:35:57 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [sic])
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If this doesn’t convince people that the Bushes aren’t in this up to their moderate eyeballs, nothing will.


18 posted on 10/01/2013 9:37:31 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Brad from Tennessee.
...Obama’s former deputy CIA director; law professor Geoffrey Stone, who has raised money for Obama and spearheads a committee hoping to build Obama’s presidential library in Chicago; law professor Cass Sunstein, administrator of information and regulatory affairs for Obama; and Peter Swire, a former Office of Management and Budget privacy director for Clinton.



19 posted on 10/02/2013 3:44:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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20 posted on 10/02/2013 4:14:46 AM PDT by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: cripplecreek

GREAT graphics....communist bump


21 posted on 10/02/2013 4:21:52 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: Nachum

ping


22 posted on 10/02/2013 5:51:38 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberal: A person who charges their grandchildren for today's party)
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To: Ax

The NSA is a lot closer and thus more dangerous.


23 posted on 10/02/2013 5:55:13 AM PDT by shego
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To: Ax

Does the NSA take people out into the woods and shoot them? No

Does the NSA monitor the citizens of this country? yes
Does the NSA pass that information on to other government agencies? yes
Is that information used to persecute people based on their political or moral beliefs? yes
Is the NSA effectively creating a ‘file’ on every American citizen? Yes
Will that file be used against those citizens in the future? yes


24 posted on 10/02/2013 6:26:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
The KGB would occasionally take people out in the woods and shoot them... in territories controlled by the Soviet Empire.

As I said, the trump card is the fact that the NSA is here, not way over there.

25 posted on 10/02/2013 7:34:08 AM PDT by shego
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list


26 posted on 10/02/2013 7:51:37 AM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: mylife

Hoax & chains.


27 posted on 10/02/2013 8:25:12 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: driftdiver

I retired from NSA 16 years ago. I spent most of my career on the tip of the spear, overseas. If all this internal spying was going on while I was working, it went on in an invisible organization. While working overseas, we were continually reminded of our responsibilities under the Fourth Amendment. We were warned that any collection, recording or reporting of communications between US Persons would lead to dismissal or prosecution. My hands and those of my colleagues, FRiend, are spotless. In a career of 33 years, I never heard one word of any such organization.


28 posted on 10/02/2013 8:30:03 AM PDT by Ax
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To: mylife
ObamaCare is domestic surveillance.
29 posted on 10/02/2013 8:30:52 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Ax

No doubt they keep everything compartmentalized. You weren’t in the illegal dirty-tricks department, and thus were able to work with a clean conscience. I’m sure they were careful to make sure that anyone with integrity or American values was kept away from the dark side of the agency.


30 posted on 10/02/2013 9:10:38 AM PDT by shego
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To: Nachum; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; La Lydia; aragorn; Velveeta; ..

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Ping.

Article, then check out graphics at # 3, ... also see # 5, # 24.

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31 posted on 10/02/2013 9:14:58 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: Ax

And yet the NSA has publicly admitted all this is happening.

Perhaps you trust your friends. Power corrupts and our current govt is going down the path to totalitarianism very quickly.

The NSA is doing this. THEY are passing info to the DEA among other organizations and the information is being used in criminal prosecutions. They are using illegally gathered information to obtain convictions and LYING about the source of the information to the judge and juries.

FUNSA


32 posted on 10/02/2013 9:47:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Nothing new. They have been doing this for a long time...


33 posted on 10/02/2013 11:05:52 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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