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Senate kills latest ObamaCare counter-offer, bill kicks back to House
fox news ^ | 9/30/2013 | fox news

Posted on 09/30/2013 7:00:24 PM PDT by tobyhill

The Senate voted for the second time Monday to kill a Republican counter-offer that would rein in ObamaCare while funding the government, kicking the bill back to the House with only a couple hours left on the clock before the government begins to shut down.

Lawmakers are facing a midnight deadline to reach an agreement on a government spending bill. Senate Democrats vow they will not accept any proposal that targets ObamaCare.

The latest House bill would have delayed the law's individual mandate while prohibiting lawmakers, their staff and top administration officials from getting government subsidies for their health care.

The Senate voted 54-46 along party lines to reject it.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; abortion; deathpanels; obamacare; zerocare
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1 posted on 09/30/2013 7:00:24 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Good night. I’d let Reid and the Democrats sleep on it.

Hell, Pelosi shut the lights off Republicans at one point.


2 posted on 09/30/2013 7:01:46 PM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: tobyhill

So the Government shut down but Obamacare is still starting.


3 posted on 09/30/2013 7:03:58 PM PDT by funfan
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To: tobyhill

The House needs to increase its demands and decrease the CR period with each new transmission to Dingy/Zer0.


4 posted on 09/30/2013 7:04:52 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: tobyhill

There is speculation that Larry will sign up to be an intern and will serve Barry some Oval Orifice pizza wearing a thong. History, as we know, repeats itself.


5 posted on 09/30/2013 7:05:28 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: tobyhill

The Fed Gov’t can rest until Nov, 2014 as far as I’m concerned.


6 posted on 09/30/2013 7:05:39 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: tobyhill

Shut it down till Christmas eve!


7 posted on 09/30/2013 7:05:53 PM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: tobyhill
WHERE IS McCONNELL?

WHO IS LEADING the GOPe?

8 posted on 09/30/2013 7:06:41 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: tobyhill

Just a reminder that Obamacare was passed unread by a congress that didn’t write it and debated it without having seen it.

This is rule by decree and this is the stuff of caudillos and banana republics.

If a few congressmen and senators have finally found their spines, this is a good thing. A bit late in the day, but still a good thing.


9 posted on 09/30/2013 7:06:50 PM PDT by marron
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To: tobyhill

This is so obviously Bush’s fault!


10 posted on 09/30/2013 7:07:16 PM PDT by bayliving
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To: funfan
When people get a sample of what they will pay, after the subsidies, I would imagine Obamacare won't last longer than a couple more years, when Conservatives take over.
11 posted on 09/30/2013 7:07:25 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: justrepublican

i am listening to Cornyn on Greta’s show right now... he can KMA, trying to act like he is with us... this is all a game... talking about one last attempt by the House... bs... Boehner is going to cave but try to make it look like he tried... bs...


12 posted on 09/30/2013 7:08:47 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: Paladin2

At this point, it would take an act of God to change the Democrats-—prayer is the MOST powerful outlet we, who are Christian Conservatives have. Let’s get some serious prayer done for this great land! Lord Jesus, we commit our “elected officials” to your hand...Please move them in ANY way you deem necessary to prove that it is YOUR people, YOUR will that reigns over this land. But I also recognize that we have foundered on our principles and our faith in you O Lord, please forgive us for not following your ways and turning aside to our own sin filled lifestyle...Amen


13 posted on 09/30/2013 7:09:27 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: princess leah

bttt


14 posted on 09/30/2013 7:10:22 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: EBH

Who are the dems in the red states up for election in 2014?


15 posted on 09/30/2013 7:10:24 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: Alissa

Landreiu and Pryor


16 posted on 09/30/2013 7:10:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Paladin2

What do you want him to do?
Make a speech?


17 posted on 09/30/2013 7:11:14 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: princess leah

I’d also suggest sending some e-mails to kick their butts....


18 posted on 09/30/2013 7:11:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marron

Your comment should be on facebook for all to read!


19 posted on 09/30/2013 7:11:52 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: Repeal The 17th

I want him to Filibuster. If not now, when?


20 posted on 09/30/2013 7:11:58 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: latina4dubya
i am listening to Cornyn on Greta’s show right now

Really, I have tried calling his office over and over and no person answers. What a snake . . .
21 posted on 09/30/2013 7:14:33 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: tobyhill; a fool in paradise

Kill the Beast! (No, I don’t mean Bill Clinton’s sometime spouse.)


22 posted on 09/30/2013 7:14:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Alissa

Senators up for re-election in 2014:
AK - Mark Begich - Democrat -
AR - Mark Pryor - Democrat -
CO - Mark Udall - Democrat -
DE - Chris Coons - Democrat -
HI - Brian Schatz - Democrat - (special)
IA - Thomas Harkin - Democrat - (not running)
IL - Richard Durbin - Democrat -
LA - Mary Landrieu - Democrat -
MA - William Mccowan - Democrat - (Kerry Seat)
MI - Carl Levin - Democrat - (not running)
MN - Al Franken - Democrat -
MT - Max Baucus - Democrat - (not running)
NC - Kay Hagan - Democrat -
NH - Jeanne Shaheen - Democrat -
NJ - (Vacant) - Democrat - (Lautenburg Seat)
NM - Tom Udall - Democrat -
OR - Jeff Merkley - Democrat -
RI - John Reed - Democrat -
SD - Tim Johnson - Democrat - (not running)
VA - Mark Warner - Democrat -
WV - Jay Rockefeller IV - Democrat - (not running)
- - -
AL - Jeff Sessions - Republican -
GA - Saxby Chambliss - Republican - (not running)
ID - James Risch - Republican -
KS - Pat Roberts - Republican -
KY - Mitch McConnell - Republican -
ME - Susan Collins - Republican -
MS - Thad Cochran - Republican -
NE - Mike Johanns - Republican - (not running)
OK - Jim Inhofe - Republican -
SC - Lindsey Graham - Republican -
SC - Tim Scott - Republican - (special)
TN - Lamar Alexander - Republican -
TX - John Cornyn - Republican -
WY - Michael Enzi - Republican -


23 posted on 09/30/2013 7:14:59 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: latina4dubya

How much you wanna bet that the “one last attempt” is a clean continuing resolution?


24 posted on 09/30/2013 7:15:48 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I heard of 5???


25 posted on 09/30/2013 7:16:22 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: Paladin2

“...I want him to Filibuster...”
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No opportunity given for that under Reid’s senate mafia rules.


26 posted on 09/30/2013 7:16:26 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: tobyhill

D.C. is going to shove this down our throats...Now or later...

No doubt about it.


27 posted on 09/30/2013 7:16:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tobyhill

Senate votes to shut down government.


28 posted on 09/30/2013 7:17:37 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: princess leah

...prayer is the MOST powerful outlet we, who are Christian Conservatives have.”

A voice of sanity, thanks.


29 posted on 09/30/2013 7:18:49 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: marron

I agree with everything you say here . . . my question is if Pelousy & Co. didn’t write it then who did? I’m a little late to the fact party on that.


30 posted on 09/30/2013 7:20:00 PM PDT by rhubarbk (It's official, I'm suffering from Obama fatigue!)
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To: rhubarbk

It was written by an outside think tank (Soros’s people).


31 posted on 09/30/2013 7:20:39 PM PDT by marron
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To: Repeal The 17th

Pardon me! That would be the MORON Eddie Mahkey ex ice cream truck driver up for Kerry’s seat in The Gay State!


32 posted on 09/30/2013 7:22:03 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: rhubarbk

SEIU, ACORN and Van Jones-types. It wasn’t even written by those we elected to power; it was written by criminals.


33 posted on 09/30/2013 7:22:10 PM PDT by madison10
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To: dragnet2

No, it’s going up a different entry point.


34 posted on 09/30/2013 7:22:17 PM PDT by 22202NOVA ("Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage." -- H.L. Mencken)
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To: Huskrrrr
Senate votes to shut down government.

Doesn't hurt conservatives, but it hurts Zero's constituency.

Check back with us in a month, Zero.

35 posted on 09/30/2013 7:23:04 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: rhubarbk

Center for Progressive Politics... buddies of The she devil and Bubba


36 posted on 09/30/2013 7:23:08 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: Huskrrrr

How could I tell that it is not Sunday?


37 posted on 09/30/2013 7:23:17 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marron

It is also a TAX that originated in the Senate, not in the House.

That alone should sink this monstrosity!


38 posted on 09/30/2013 7:23:23 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: princess leah

Prayer changes things...
& I am with you


39 posted on 09/30/2013 7:24:21 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: Alissa

ALL DEMOCRATS up for re-election, or retiring:

Pryor
Landrieu
Mark Udall, Co
Tom Udall, NM
Coons
Begich
Schatz
Durbin
Markey
Merkley
Levin
Shaheen
Hagan
Jack Reed
Tim Johnson
Mark Warner
Jay Rockefeller

______________________

Democratic US Senators face re-election in 2014:

1. Max Baucus (Montana)

Baucus is the longest-serving US Senator in the history of Montana, having first won election in 1978. He has voted to allow concealed carry and was a major player in the passage of the Affordable Care Act.

2. Mark Begich (Alaska)

Begich is the former mayor of Anchorage and defeated Ted Stevens in 2008, the longest-serving Republican US Senator in history. In his term in the Senate, he has supported the Affordable Care Act, but representing Republican and independent-rich Alaska, Begich has advocated ANWR drilling and gun rights.

3. Chris Coons (Delaware)

Coons won election in 2010 to claim the seat vacated by Vice President Joe Biden. He defeated Tea Party candidate Christine OfDonnell.

4. Dick Durbin (Illinois)

The Democratic Senate Whip, the second-highest position in the partyfs Senate leadership, Durbin is nearing the end of his third term. Durbin is a force in the Senate for liberal causes such as passing health care reform and energy policy.

5. Al Franken (Minnesota)

Well-known as a comedian before defeating Republican Norm Coleman in 2008, Franken has used his position in the Senate to try to curtail the power of credit agencies that contributed to the financial crisis.

6. Kay Hagan (North Carolina)

Hagan came to the Senate after beating Republican US Senator Elizabeth Dole in 2008. Hagan was a supporter of the Affordable Care Act and worked to include provisions in the new law to benefit her constituents such as the Rural Physicians Pipeline Act to address the shortage of doctors in rural areas.

7. Tom Harkin (Iowa)

First elected to the US Senate in 1984, Harkin was also a contender for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1992. Harkin co-authored 1990Œs Americans with Disabilities Act.

8. Tim Johnson (South Dakota)

First elected to the US Senate after serving South Dakotafs at-large congressional district, Johnson is nearing the end of his third term. Johnsonfs career has primarily involved appropriating earmarks including money for research grants, a childrenfs home, and keeping open Ellsworth Air Force Base near Rapid City.

9. John Kerry (Massachusetts)

First elected to the US Senate in 1984, Kerry was the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate and is occasionally mentioned as a potential successor to Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. In office, Kerry has served on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and was a key player in the passage of New START, an arms reduction treaty.

10. Mary Landrieu (Louisiana)

A member of the moderate New Democrat coalition, Landrieu is nearing the end of her third term. She is currently the Chairwoman of the Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship.

11. Frank Lautenberg (New Jersey)

The oldest US Senator currently serving, Lautenberg was in the Senate from 1982-2001 before retiring and subsequently returning in 2003. A supporter of legislation for public transportation, Lautenberg will be 90 years old in 2014 and has not indicated whether he will retire again.

12. Carl Levin (Michigan)

First elected to the US Senate in 1978, Levin is the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Armed Services. With Republican Senator John McCain, Levin was a co-sponsor of the controversial 2012 National Defense Authorization Act.

13. Jeff Merkley (Oregon)

Defeating two-term incumbent Gordon Smith in 2008, Merkley broke with many in his party in 2009 by opposing the re-confirmation of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and again in 2011 when he voted against the debt ceiling compromise.

14. Mark Pryor (Arkansas)

First elected in 2002, Pryor was one of seven Democrats in the so-called gGang of 14h to block Republican implementation of the gnuclear optionh to halt Democratic filibusters of Republican judicial appointments. Serving a culturally conservative state, Pryor has broken with his party on abortion, supporting it only in cases of rape, incest, and to protect the life of the mother.

15. Jack Reed (Rhode Island)

Reed was first elected to the US Senate in 1996. In his tenure, he has compiled one of the more liberal voting records in the Senate.

16. Jay Rockefeller (West Virginia)

Although from one of the wealthiest families in the world, Rockefeller has achieved a liberal voting record that has focused on poverty reduction and health care reform. If he decides to run for re-election in 2014, Rockefeller will be attempting to win his sixth term.

17. Jeanne Shaheen (New Hampshire)

Defeating Republican incumbent John Sununu in 2008, Shaheen is the first woman to represent New Hampshire in the US Senate. During her first term, Sheheen has worked on energy issues with Republican Susan Collins.

18. Mark Udall (Colorado)

Elected to the US Senate in 2008, Udall comes from a well-known political family after serving in the House of Representatives. It was Udallfs proposal that the two parties sit side-by-side for the 2011 State of the Union address and not separated as they usually do.

19. Tom Udall (New Mexico)

Like his cousin, Tom Udall was also elected to the US Senate in 2008 and is on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

20. Mark Warner (Virginia)

A former governor of Virginia, Warner was first elected in 2008. During his time in office, Warner has worked on deficit reduction plans.


40 posted on 09/30/2013 7:24:25 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: tobyhill

The house should just keep tossing it back. so there is no such thing as a conference to reconcile the two houses?
sure a conference would be stacked with dems and RINOs but I thought that is how this crap worked but what do I know? I don’t think these congress critters know much either. :-)


41 posted on 09/30/2013 7:24:42 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: tobyhill
So Dingy Harry owns a Gubmint shutdown.
Repub's need to put op-eds in all the major papers and hit every TV and radio outlet that will have them and hammer away that ithis is HARRY'S FAULT.
42 posted on 09/30/2013 7:25:33 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: marron

The Apollo Alliance—we are both correct.


43 posted on 09/30/2013 7:25:35 PM PDT by madison10
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To: princess leah

Amen and AMEN!!! May we experience some real soul searching during these turbulant days. You are so right. We need to go to our knees....in earnest, sincere, prayer.


44 posted on 09/30/2013 7:25:42 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: RushingWater

They hardly ever answer...and it takes at least 30 days to get a response from him on just about every issue. When you do get a response it goes on and on in a condescending way, like you, being a sheeple, don’t really know what is going on.


45 posted on 09/30/2013 7:26:12 PM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: pollywog

What should we be praying for specifically?


46 posted on 09/30/2013 7:26:30 PM PDT by madison10
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To: funfan
So the Government shut down but Obamacare is still starting.

If that's true, it will certainly work in our favor. Word of mouth will spread fast.

47 posted on 09/30/2013 7:26:48 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: latina4dubya

It is just unthinkable to think that Boehner will not cave!


48 posted on 09/30/2013 7:27:21 PM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!")
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To: 22202NOVA

What does that mean?


49 posted on 09/30/2013 7:28:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tobyhill

Lay off all non essental employees with NO RETROACTIVE PAY EVER!!!


50 posted on 09/30/2013 7:29:17 PM PDT by dalereed
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