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Government shutdown: Senate sends Obama military pay bill
Politico ^ | 30SEP13 | AUSTIN WRIGHT

Posted on 09/30/2013 2:56:59 PM PDT by familyop

A House-passed bill to ensure the military gets paid under any government shutdown was approved without dissent in the Senate on Monday — a rare bipartisan agreement as Congress stumbled toward midnight when the fiscal year ends and current appropriations expire.

The measure, now on its way to President Barack Obama’s desk, would also ensure continued pay for civilian employees of the Defense Department and Pentagon contractors whom Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel determines “are providing support to members of the Armed Forces.”

Put forward by House Republicans, the bill is considered good politics for the GOP, since analysts suggest the party could bear the brunt of the blame for any government disruption.

Following the bill’s passage, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) took to the Senate floor to offer Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid a backhanded compliment, praising the Nevada Democrat for not holding pay for service members “hostage.”

“The soldiers and sailors and airmen and Marines who risk their lives for this nation should not have their paychecks held hostage to any government shutdown in Washington,” said Cruz, who has led the charge in urging his fellow conservatives to demand that any bill to fund the government past Monday include provisions delaying Obamacare.

Democrats, meanwhile, said the bill to fund the troops wouldn’t make a government shutdown any more palatable — and insisted they hadn’t given up any leverage by easing some of the potential pain for the military.

“There’s no shortage of pain here,” said Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.).

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), another member of the Armed Services Committee, agreed. “It’s important to the country that we show support for the troops,” she said, “but there’s still going to be pain out there.”

“I don’t think it makes it easier for the Republicans to shut down the government over us not agreeing to repeal Obamacare after we had an election last November that decided it,” McCaskill said.

And Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), who chairs the Senate Appropriations Committee, noted the bill was no cure-all for the Defense Department. “There will be many aspects of the military, of DoD, that won’t get paid,” she said.

On Friday, Pentagon officials described the potential effects of a shutdown on the military, saying pay for service members could be delayed and many civilian employees would be furloughed, potentially losing out on their pay entirely.


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Maryland; US: Michigan; US: Missouri; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abortion; barbaramikulski; carllevin; ceiling; clairemccaskill; deathpanels; debt; maryland; michigan; military; missouri; obamacare; pay; texas; zerocare
To correct the earlier post to Front Page News here, "Senate won't Pass Military Pay Protection Act." There's also

Senate clears bill to pay military in case of shutdown http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/congress/senate-clears-bill-to-pay-military-in-case-of-shutdown/2013/09/30/13f40e02-2a0b-11e3-b141-298f46539716_story.html

1 posted on 09/30/2013 2:56:59 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

>> “There’s no shortage of pain here,” said Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.).

Yeah. You, for example.


2 posted on 09/30/2013 2:59:16 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: familyop

Ha! BHO2 is just the type to veto this bill. I wonder how long it would take for an over-ride vote in Congress?


3 posted on 09/30/2013 3:00:25 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITIZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: familyop

If this is correct, it means the dems and traitors in the US Senate are getting the message. Next, they should send the bill abolishing the medical device tax.


4 posted on 09/30/2013 3:02:06 PM PDT by grania
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To: familyop

The feds should not be able to close national parks...those are public lands, not federal assets.


5 posted on 09/30/2013 3:02:20 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: familyop
And why shouldn't our guys in uniform get paid? Taxes are still being paid.

What does the government do with the cash? Pile it up until everything starts back up?

6 posted on 09/30/2013 3:02:51 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: familyop; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty/Retiree ping.

Update.


7 posted on 09/30/2013 3:03:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: familyop
To correct the earlier post to Front Page News here, "Senate won't Pass Military Pay Protection Act."

There's also
Senate clears bill to pay military in case of shutdown (Washington Post).

[Little reformat of my first comment there.]
8 posted on 09/30/2013 3:03:54 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
Cool. Now send one out so old people get their checks.

Then send one to fund ________ and then __________ and then ___________, etc.

9 posted on 09/30/2013 3:05:32 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: familyop

If BHO signs this, Boehner should put the House in Recess for a few weeks... Let’s see if anyone notices that the govt is shut down.


10 posted on 09/30/2013 3:05:33 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: familyop

“I don’t think it makes it easier for the Republicans to shut down the government over us not agreeing to repeal Obamacare after we had an election last November that decided it,” McCaskill said.

What the heck? Election decided Obamacare?
What universe are these critters living in?


11 posted on 09/30/2013 3:06:21 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: grania

Exactly, stop trying to lump it all together...piece meal it ...


12 posted on 09/30/2013 3:07:43 PM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: SatinDoll
"Ha! BHO2 is just the type to veto this bill. I wonder how long it would take for an over-ride vote in Congress?"

That would be funny. It passed unanimously in both houses, though, so the military and its contractors will be paid.


13 posted on 09/30/2013 3:08:27 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SatinDoll

Game over. The Dems have lost any leverage they might have had.

Let the next round begin!


14 posted on 09/30/2013 3:11:33 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

If the financial guy on the radio last night was correct, it will take about 2 weeks before we see or feel anything.


15 posted on 09/30/2013 3:11:49 PM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
Yep. Recess the House until the Fast & Furious scandal, IRS scandal, DOJ spying on Fox News scandal, Benghazi cover-up are all resolved and accountability realized with criminal prosecutions and ERIC HOLDER LOSING HIS JOB.

Or maybe keep the gov't shut down until every single tax-exempt status application submitted by Tea Party groups is APPROVED by the IRS.

16 posted on 09/30/2013 3:11:53 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: SatinDoll

And civil service employees. They’ll be paid, too, as per the article.


17 posted on 09/30/2013 3:14:51 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop

We need citizen journalists to use their webcams to record what RAT senators and administration fat cats are doing during this time. Will the White House shut down media access to the White House?


18 posted on 09/30/2013 3:17:32 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: familyop

CNN just mentioned the possible “historic government shutdown” tonight suggesting it was novel, unique. Another channel reminds that this has happened 17 times since 1976.


19 posted on 09/30/2013 3:20:25 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: familyop

Wonder if I’ll get my S.S. check tomorrow. Obama probably personally stopped mine and every S.S. recipient on this forum.


20 posted on 09/30/2013 3:22:32 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: familyop
The dam just broke. This explains Obama’s impromptu press conference. The House can send CR’s to the Senate for essential services such as SS, ATC, National Parks, Homeland Security and the Senate will have to pass them. The House can then just not get around to funding the ACA.
21 posted on 09/30/2013 3:23:53 PM PDT by Pres Raygun (It's the economy stupid.)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

we had some looney toon reporterette on the tube talking about how this will be a diasaster for the economy..

“just imagine all the federal workers not able to go out to dinner or take that vacation” she said...

well, i got carry out chicken for dinner today, will take wifie out tomorrow, and am going on vacation (beer hunting) at the end of the week..

i will spend a little more money just because of the ignorant arrogant self centered little communist on the tube..


22 posted on 09/30/2013 3:25:51 PM PDT by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: tet68

One of my (liberal) acquaintances posted this to me: But none of this matters - “it is done. It is the law already.”


23 posted on 09/30/2013 3:33:57 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: EBH

correct
the checks issued tonight are for past 2 weeks or 30 days and will beat the 1 oct midnight clock

It’s the checks due after the next 2 weeks that are/were in doubt


24 posted on 09/30/2013 3:35:09 PM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: familyop

It just mentions DoD, not the other agencies


25 posted on 09/30/2013 3:35:46 PM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: philetus

Yah and the ban on abortion was the law of the land and so was prohibition, slavery, suffrage....

Laws can be changed.


26 posted on 09/30/2013 3:37:09 PM PDT by EBH ( Freeman: A person not in slavery or serfdom.)
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To: philetus

like the debt ceiling is the law?
Like immigration law is the law?
like DOMA is the law?
like the Bush tax cuts were the law?
(Yeah democrats supported that one all the way)


27 posted on 09/30/2013 3:37:42 PM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: jeffc

Every penny of the taxes paid today were already spent years earlier. The only thing they are arguing about is how much more debt they are authorizing to be incurred for the future income taxes to be paid into the Treasury.


28 posted on 09/30/2013 3:37:46 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Pres Raygun
The House can send CR’s to the Senate for essential services such as SS, ATC, National Parks, Homeland Security and the Senate will have to pass them. The House can then just not get around to funding the ACA.

A winning strategy. Boehner can then say, "As the President said, we have a duty to pay the country's bills. The House will continue to send continuing resolutions to the Senate ensuring the Country's bills are paid."

29 posted on 09/30/2013 3:48:59 PM PDT by superloser
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To: Tanniker Smith; Graybeard58; familyop

” Cool. Now send one out so old people get their checks. - - - “

What exactly does that mean ??? Nothing that I have heard of ~


30 posted on 09/30/2013 3:50:14 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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Thanks familyop.
A House-passed bill to ensure the military gets paid under any government shutdown was approved without dissent in the Senate on Monday.

31 posted on 09/30/2013 3:53:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Graybeard58

Wonder if I’ll get my S.S. check tomorrow.”

Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security checks will continue to go out unimpeded forever more, as will anything that is already set up in their computer system to pay.


32 posted on 09/30/2013 4:07:23 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

thx for the Update!


33 posted on 09/30/2013 4:45:51 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: grania

One by one. We’ll see every program that the dems are willing to hold hostage. One by one.


34 posted on 09/30/2013 6:03:45 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: familyop

Good. Some semblance of sanity for those protecting the nation.


35 posted on 09/30/2013 6:06:12 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (My PV2 is my hero.)
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To: familyop

Take the hint house republicans. Pass a bill to fund each thing that should not be interrupted. Let the rest die. Like IRS and EPA.


36 posted on 09/30/2013 6:10:56 PM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: jeffc

The cash will go to whoever needs pocket grease.


37 posted on 09/30/2013 6:26:07 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: SatinDoll

BUMP, and it will be “Bush’s Fault.”


38 posted on 09/30/2013 6:55:32 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Marxist Obama'care' Insurance violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: familyop

That was a big talking point Obama just lost. Of course, he’ll still keep saying the soldiers aren’t getting paid.


39 posted on 09/30/2013 8:14:49 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Local news went right for the heartstrings (school children won’t get to go on their field trips to state parks, yadda, yadda, yadda).


40 posted on 09/30/2013 8:34:32 PM PDT by jurroppi1
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