Skip to comments.Shutdown showdown hits brink as Senate kills House spending bill
Posted on 09/30/2013 11:35:46 AM PDT by kcvl
The Senate voted Monday afternoon to kill House Republicans latest stopgap spending offer, holding firm in their demand that Congress continue to fund Obamacare as part of any government-funding debate.
The 54-46 vote officially tabled both proposals the House GOP passed early Sunday morning, one of which would have funded the government while delaying the health law for a year, and the other of which would have repealed one of the Affordable Care Acts tax increases.
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But the title should read:
“Senate Defiant over House bills.”
Its on then..
Which Republicans voted with Reid?
Democrats In Senate Vote To Deprive People of Lifesaving Medical Devices, Stop Military Pay, and Shove Granny Off A Cliff.
I don’t expect to live long enough (especially under Ocare) to ever see the above headline.
Close to party line. Sixty not needed.
They should tell Reid that the government will stay shutdown each year until the 500billion is saved to pay for this monstrosity.
Frankly, I’d pass a CR at this point for 30 days and make a big stink about ZERO interest in bi-partisanship from the Democrats.
Which Republicans voted with Reid?
None. It was party line, 54-46
Okay....good work guys....take the rest of the week off and let’s take another look at this in about, oh....say....a month? Three? Hey, let’s give it time to cogitate and say we meet back here in frigging six months. Okay?
Fine by me. They don’t have anything I want or need.
1) The Republicans in the House have a spending bill! At a time like this?? Don't those guys know that we're broke?!
2) The responsible Democrats in the Senate have killed that nasty spending bill so that the country does not go deeper into debt.
Of course all of that is a gross misinterpretation of the facts. But I think the media pushes that stuff on purpose.
it is too late for ‘party-line’ Republicans. You had your chance on Cloture and you RINOs blew it. We’re gonna get you in your next primary - count on it!
Start passing the budget piece by piece.
First, fund Social Security.
Then Department of Defense.
Keep passing individual (not omnibus) spending bills.
Make the Senate vote for or against the stuff Americans expect to get passed (whether we like them or not, is another question.)
But don’t pass a bill for the Department of Health or whatever the Death Panel calls itself these days.
(*credit to Jim Thompson [sic] whose idea this is*)
We'll be bringing this fight to the RINOs for the rest of their sorry careers.
“Democrats throw Granny off cliff”
Hahaha. Right back atcha Reid.
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Media has Obama’s back...
Halperin: Obama Okay with Shutdown Because Media Has His Back
When asked if President Obama had an incentive to negotiate with the GOP, Halperin explained that, “The White House does not have much incentive. They think the trends are going to go in their direction at the end of the week, or early next week at the latest; because again, the press is largely sympathetic to their arguments on this.”
You gonna pay my bills? Seems like a lot of you are so eager to shut down the government...yet you forget there are some of us out here that work for the government....and we ain't part of the bloated federal bureaucracy. I'm active duty. Luckily I can take a little shut down without funding for the military. However, some of my younger enlisted certainly can't. Gonna take the rest of the week off without doing something about that?
DEMS VOTE TO KEEP TAX ON MEDICAL EQUIPMENT...
Some Republicans want the House to pass a new bill that would fund the government but also would require President Obama, Vice President Joseph R. Biden and all of the administrations top political appointees to forgo their government health plans and join the health exchanges.
Oh if the government shuts down I intend to riot inthe streets as mass chaos and panic sets in.....
Just kidding I am sure it wont really affect me one way or another...
Maybe the Obama care door to door coaches wont show up and I will be lonely and have to rely on Jehova Witlesses and Mormon Missionaries to keep me company....
SOMEbody had to do SOMEthing and the best something was done.
Democrat senate votes for a government shutdown.
When is the last time they passed a BUDGET?!
I really like your idea using individual CRs to fund everything except socialist medicine. Make the Hairy Reed spit!
“...Start passing the budget piece by piece.
First, fund Social Security.
Then Department of Defense...”
And then the House bill would go to the senate,
where Reid would hold a vote on cloture, and get it.
Then he would add an amendment to include funding for everything else,
and get his 51 votes to pass the amended bill,
and send it back to the House.
If the House would not accept the amended bill from the senate,
the House would get blamed for not being willing to negotiate,
and therefore shutting down the government.
Just like the senate did with the first continuing resolution,
and now with the second continuing resolution.
The senate mafia can do this over and over again.
Good question! I want to know which republicans voted for the government shutdown along with Harry Reid and other democrats.
PBS: Congress Hasnt Passed a Budget in Years, Fails to Call Out Democratic Senate
— The number of days since the Senate last passed a budget, April 29, 2009.
Sat Mar 23, 2013
The Senate on Saturday narrowly passed its first federal budget in four years
The HOR 'pubs have to stand firm now. That bill was a good compromise offer.
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Harry Reid:”Understand we’re dealing with anarchists, they hate government.”
BREAKING: House Republicans will move a bill that delays the individual mandate and cancels health-insurance subsidies for congress, admin
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If President Obama acted unilaterally to raise debt ceiling, it would not be taken seriously by the world’s financial markets, White House spokesman Jay Carney said on Monday.
Yup Harry boy, when you run the government, what's not to hate.
On the day you can muster enough votes to overcome 140% Democrat voter turnout, get back to us.
I spent my time in the military in the 60s and 70s when there were shut downs and there were a few times when I didn’t get paid either.
This country is in financial and governmental disaster whether you believe it or not. We are on a cliff being driven over it by a madman, and we cannot turn back and relent and appease any more. You also have to realize that one of the first things the House will do is float an offer to fund the military which if Obama and Reid do not agree to you can go see them.
Finally, last time I checked and when I drew an Eagle check it was once a MONTH. A week, two or three is not a ‘burden’. Not buying it.
The bill the senate killed was a huge compromise. It’ll take some remarkable intransigence and media spin to blame the coming shutdown on anyone other than the Rats. I’m sure Rat voters are capable of the brain fart necessary to blame the GOP and I know the Rat media is capable of such spin. Especially since ever RINO has been preemptively blaming the Tea Party.
With the government shutdown, how long would it take to get out of debt?
The henkster predicts that both houses will convene at 10:55 p.m. to vote a “compromise” (surrender) CR that continues the lack of budget charade for another year, funds 0bamacare, does not delay the individual mandate, and promises to create a “bipartisan commission to study amendments” to 0bamacare.
Just in time for the 11 o’clock news.
You heard it here first.
It was a different matter to remove an amendment that positively defunded something. It's another matter to add an amendment to fund something.
Government shutdown? Nonsense. Only in our dreams will the U.S. government shut down. The current flap about an impending shutdown represents only the latest episode in the soap opera that stars the government as the hysterical teenage drama queen. For fiscal year 2013, which will end in a week, estimated federal revenue is expected to be about $2.7 trillion. In real terms, this revenue is roughly equal to the amount the government spent ten years ago, near the beginning of the Bush II administration.
Now its back to the house...Now is the time to take away all..ALL exemptions...send it back to the Senate!
Conservatives are fighting a two front war....and while it seems we cant get anywhere fast enough we are gaining inch by inch.
Ive been on FR a long time and have never seen this amount of enthusiasm before. And we arent alone...2/3 of the people are our side...conservative groups and so on.
We might have won if the gang of 25 traitors hadnt pulled a fast one on us...then again maybe not...but now we can turn the tables on them and the RATS by simply taking away ALL exemptions.
After the shi’ite hits the fan, and it will with 0bamacare, the conservatives in the Republican party will be calling all the shots and take back the Senate...and in 2016 take back the WH.
Still a long way to go but with some marketing skills(almost none in the GOPe)by conservatives we can win in the near future.
Classic example of this can be seen in NC...RATS had total control of the state but hung themselves and Republicans are setting things straight.