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Girl, 13, her boyfriend, 12, ordered to register as sex offenders [truncated title]
Your Jewish News ^ | Undated | David Ross

Posted on 09/30/2013 5:37:50 AM PDT by expat1000

..In this ironic case, the 13-year-old unidentified girl, and the 12-year-old boy, are both on the sex offender list and are the victims in the case, because they had consensual sex with each other.

The two violated a Utah state law that criminalizes having sex with a person under 14 years of age. Although they were both children, Utah State officials found them guilty of sexual abuse of a child....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: minors; moralabsolutes; sexoffenders; teens; zerotolerance
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

I don't think I'd hold parents accountable for the randy acts of young-uns on the verge of physical maturity. I'm old enough to know folks (older than me) who married, yes, married, at age 15. And stayed married. And raised good families, and grew to old age with each other.

I read a headline the other day announcing adolescence extended to 25. Culturally, that's where we may be at. Psychologically, that's perhaps what our society has done to younger folks.

But physically, most boys and girls are ready for parenthood no later than age 14 - 16, and plenty, a whole lot earlier. Passing laws to punish the parents of children who figure that out doesn't seem to me to be wise.


sitetest

41 posted on 09/30/2013 6:40:29 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: MortMan

Testing.....


42 posted on 09/30/2013 6:40:54 AM PDT by Therapsid (t)
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To: AppyPappy

So, what about the mentally handicapped. If two of them date each other, and wind up having sex, do we send them both to jail for being rapists?


43 posted on 09/30/2013 6:41:43 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: expat1000
I don't know how kids of today are supposed to navigate between the "anything goes" attitude of the current media culture and gayism and the "nothing goes" stance of laws and feminism.

As much as I was initially inclined to leave the 13-year old lovers alone, the fact is that young people can become pregnant, contract diseases, it's very risky and they are not mature enough, mentally and financially, to deal with the consequences. Their parents will be paying if anything happens.
Maybe laws that says that NOBODY can have sex with someone below age of consent is what we need to protect our children from the oncoming attempts to normalize pedophilia.
Anything else muddles the message too much.

44 posted on 09/30/2013 6:42:41 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: sitetest
Passing laws to punish the parents of children who figure that out doesn't seem to me to be wise.

I'm not thinking in terms of "punishing," but more of "incentivizing" adults.

It may be that there's nothing useful to be done. However, when a 13-year-old and a 12-year-old have produced a child, we at least ought to be able to agree that something has gone wrong.

45 posted on 09/30/2013 6:43:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not crazy ... I'm just not you.)
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To: sitetest; Tax-chick

If they are old enough for sex, they are old enough to get a job and move out and take care of themselves.

Tell them that too. Make it a rule.


46 posted on 09/30/2013 6:44:44 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Tax-chick

I wonder when their public school sex education started....


47 posted on 09/30/2013 6:45:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

“I'm not thinking in terms of ‘punishing,’ but more of ‘incentivizing’ adults.”

Well... I guess it depends on definitions of words. To me, filing charges of neglect against folks sounds more like “punishment” than “incentive.”

“However, when a 13-year-old and a 12-year-old have produced a child, we at least ought to be able to agree that something has gone wrong.”

Certainly. Unfortunately, our society has mostly lost its moral order.


sitetest

48 posted on 09/30/2013 6:47:56 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Durus; OKSooner

You’re welcome. Stay free.


49 posted on 09/30/2013 6:50:59 AM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: Tax-chick
It's cultural. They have different standards in the stans
50 posted on 09/30/2013 6:52:55 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: GeronL; sitetest

The law prevents children from getting jobs or renting apartments in almost all situations.

The gap between physical maturity and psychological, economic, or social maturity is a serious problem. It would be instructive to observe how other societies have dealt with this in the past. I’m thinking of classical Greece, for example, where boys/men practiced homosexuality until they reached their 20s or older. Then they married young teenage girls. Homosexuality and prostitution seem to be common, historically, in societies where men delay marriage. Fornication of young women wasn’t as common.

It seems to me that a lot of misery is in store for the most vulnerable members of society, especially the babies.


51 posted on 09/30/2013 6:54:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not crazy ... I'm just not you.)
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To: from occupied ga

And in Latin America, to some extent. How’s it working out for them ... not too well, seems like.


52 posted on 09/30/2013 6:56:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not crazy ... I'm just not you.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
There is no discretion any more, just jackbooted following orders.

That's why I say that when TSHTF, the primary targets should be those GIVING THE ORDERS!

53 posted on 09/30/2013 6:57:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Tax-chick
How’s it working out for them ... not too well, seems like

I don't know. How is it working for them? What criteria are you using, what factors are you judging? Seems kind of weird to me, but maybe it works for them.

54 posted on 09/30/2013 7:00:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: MrB

“I wonder when their public school sex education started....”

Their education started by watching television where they saw that its normal to have sex if you like each other, and that all the cool kids do it. Imagine you are a teen or pre-teen who has never had a date but have seen innumerable TV shows where sex happens on the first date. As far as you know this is normal and expected behavior.


55 posted on 09/30/2013 7:02:51 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

In deference to the family audience, I was at age 11, being female and all. Some children are no longer children at that age, but there is NO way they should be charging those kids as sex offenders.

The society talks about “it”, sings about “it”, has TV shows and movies about “it” so how can they expect kids not to do “it?”


56 posted on 09/30/2013 7:03:08 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Boogieman

You are missing the point. I’m not saying they should go to jail. I’m saying they cannot give consent.


57 posted on 09/30/2013 7:07:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: MortMan

Legally, you cannot say “A 13 year-old cannot give consent unless they can”.


58 posted on 09/30/2013 7:08:18 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: expat1000

Force them to get married and get jobs...that’ll teach them.


59 posted on 09/30/2013 7:08:22 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: expat1000

The point of the sex offender list is to identify threats to children. A 12 and 13 year old willing to have sex with each other show not only shows a lack of good judgment but a willingness to act on their impulses. That is the threat to other children. Will that change over time as they mature? Perhaps, but when? Does anyone want their daughter to associate with a sexually active 12 year old willing to act on his impulses? When does he become “safe?” At 13,14,15,16? You can turn that around too for sons.


60 posted on 09/30/2013 7:11:33 AM PDT by trubolotta
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