Skip to comments.House Will Vote on Plan to Keep Government Open, Stop ObamaCare
Posted on 09/29/2013 3:21:19 AM PDT by F15Eagle
WASHINGTON, DC House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), and GOP Conference Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) released the following joint statement:
The American people dont want a government shut down and they dont want ObamaCare. Thats why later today, the House will vote on two amendments to the Senate-passed continuing resolution that will keep the government open and stop as much of the presidents health care law as possible.
The first amendment delays the presidents health care law by one year. And the second permanently repeals ObamaCares medical device tax that is sending jobs overseas.
Both of these amendments will change the date of the Senate CR to December 15th. We will also vote on a measure that ensures our troops get paid, no matter what.
- See more at: http://www.speaker.gov/press-release/house-will-vote-plan-keep-government-open-stop-obamacare#sthash.QlIs8g8X.dpuf
(Excerpt) Read more at speaker.gov ...
DEFUND OBAMACARE - NOW
Of course...the GOP in the Senate had the opportunity to defund ObamaCare....and most ended up supporting ObamaCare. The GOP in the Senate will find another way to keep ObamaCare
This vote took place last night. I watched some of it on C-Span. Just wondering if you knew that it already happened.
More Shutdown Drama as House Sends CR Back to Senate
I believe the Reid and Administration tactic is to expect government shutdown, no agreement, and by next weekend...the journalism media device to blast away at Republicans and the House across the nation. Collapse would occur by Monday or Tuesday after that, and the Democrats would score big with their supporters (ever how few still exist).
The problem I see with this attitude...once you get past the beltway and into the heartland...there’s a limited view of national media or their chit-chat over topics like this. Fewer people are watching NBC and CBS Sunday morning political talk-shows. Fewer people reading the Washington Post and New York Times.
Hostility....never occurred during the 1970s or 1980s when the government shut down. Most folks have forgotten that...but we weren’t exactly hyper or worried about such an event.
I think the Administration is guessing wrong, and around day fifteen of the shutdown...there will be this odd meeting with Harry Reid and the suggestion that maybe this was a foolish strategy and how they might get something agreed upon. Harry will just stand there...shaking his head. He’s getting too old for this topsy-turvey go-nowhere strategy business, that comes up every six months.
I think they’re gambling on a shut down, but then the Obama admin will use executive powers to increase debt limit
Let me repeat, we are always fast on the condemnation but slow on the praise...
Give the House our support.
Thanks - I was consumed most of the evening as I found out the loss of a dear friend (Vietnam Vet) who passed away in a tragic car accident this past week. I’ve ridden with him in that vehicle several times. I am stunned and deeply hurt by the loss of my friend who was fighting many battles in his life.
I cannot stomach watching this guy speak but I got caught off guard and I noticed while he was blaming once again he had a childlike smerk on his face whan he said they are trying to stop the law of the land, chief justice roberts I thought could have stopped it dead in it’s tracks! Thanks for not doing your job for the American people
It's early Sunday morning, and we're halfway through one of the 52 government shutdowns that happen every year. Sometimes there's even a Monday Fedzilla holiday, when nobody outside the Beltway even notices. And every four or five years, there's a snowstorm that shuts down DC for four or five days, without anyone even noticing, except all the non-essential Fedzilla personnel who stay home, shaving at least 45 minutes from the commute time for those of us who live in this hell hole.
Amen: We will still make Duck calls in West Monroe
Sorry, Eagle. :(
You’re right, we need to do all we can to support the House, keep it, and capture the Senate.
The House leadership will go as far as we support them, and that includes making our friends, relatives and neighbors aware how bad Obamacare, helping them realize that a shutdown is way less worse than implementing Obamacare. It’s silly to expect the House Leadership to go very far out on a limb to oppose the President and MSM if the American People aren’t with the House.
We have to do all we can to take the Senate next year. Even if we’re out-of-state, find a Senate race that means something and figure out a way to help. Toppling Lindsey Graham, eliminating Mark & Mary, ...anything to knock out Harry Reid. And we MUST keep the House!
I just sent these nice folks another “love” email......
Say thanks!!! They are doing what the American people want.
they would still pay the workers for sitting home eating candy and chips and watching tv.
You make a good point. I watched a great deal of the House proceeding last evening. Republicans I have never heard of did a great job. Democrats screamed bloody murder and pounded the table.
maybe it is time for conservatives to go public by letters to the editor and local talk shows telling the populace that the House Republicans fully funded the government. Everything operating today is funded until December 15th according to the Republican CR sent forward. So, where’s the problem.
In some small way we can take some credit...due to our calls/emails!!!!
1) Some government employees will be laid off. All non productive dem voters.
2) Productive people will find their lives the same or better without the intrusive federal government.
No wonder the dems are so excited.
I see that my Rep (Gibson [NY19, Hudson Valley]) was one of the 2 Republicans that voted against (the other Hanna [NY21, the unexplored void between Albany and Syracuse]). I know some people here will scorch Gibson for his vote, but he’s a solid guy in a tough district who will do what he can and will be there when needed.
He and West were two Colonels that got elected in 2010. I far prefer West’s oratory and rhetoric, but of the two, only Gibson is still around to keep Pelosi out of the Speaker’s chair. And that means a lot.
Obama won NY19 by 6% 53-47, however, Gibson was able to convince 11% of Obama voters to switch and vote for the evil-GOP-nut-job-extremist-menace to win by the same score, 53-47, and hold his seat. You gotta do what you gotta do, holding the House is one of those things.
> It’s early Sunday morning, and we’re halfway through one of the 52 government shutdowns that happen every year. Sometimes there’s even a Monday Fedzilla holiday, when nobody outside the Beltway even notices. And every four or five years, there’s a snowstorm that shuts down DC for four or five days, without anyone even noticing, except all the non-essential Fedzilla personnel who stay home, shaving at least 45 minutes from the commute time for those of us who live in this hell hole.
Where are the liberals to protest snowstorms with their little charts and photoshopped pics when they shut down the government?
You are perfectly right! If the Government is shut down, that will be the senate or the administration decision. The House voted to fund the government till Dec.15 and if for some reason Harry Reid or Obama will shut down the government, the military personnel will get their pay check.
Not trying to pick nits but, they (we) need to stop calling this “0bama’s healthcare bill”. He is not running for re-election. They (we) need to place blame where it belongs: on the democrat Party (and their RINO accomplices).
“....go public by letters to the editor”......
Most newspapers are too liberal to consider posting such letters.
Sorry for you loss. It’s tough to lose a friend.
The House Republicans have taken the first big step backwards in substituting “delay” for “defund.” They will go all the way back and pass everything the Democrats want but first they will allow the government to shut down and get blamed for it and will get nothing for it all, except the loss of the 2014 elections.
“need to place blame where it belongs”
If 2010 was about firing Nancy Pelosi, then 2014 has to be about firing Harry Reid.
2014 is all about HARRY REID!!
So what do we call Obamacare now - Harrycarey?
Amen to that
“the GOP in the Senate had the opportunity to defund ObamaCare....and most ended up supporting ObamaCare.”
Check your facts. The entire GOP in the senate voted against the CR.
That filibuster would have shut he entire government down and the GOP would have gotten all the blame. And on top of that, Obamacare would still get funded.
I know I’ll get flamed for this but Cruz’s vanity filibuster accomplished exactly nothing.
The house took the lead in defunding Obamacare from the start and they are the only ones following a strategy with any chance on winning.
There’s nothing courageous about slamming your head against a wall hoping to break it. It’s just stupid.
Another round of “let’s pretend we have an opposition party”.
Delay is just give up slowly!
I favor the delay approach. Meaning I favor either DELAY IT or NO DEAL.
I dont favor the Vitter approach that has come up at all. All it does is drag a few Congressional staffers into the mess. Members of Congress, particularly Senators, are millionaires and can afford whatever coverage they want. Or to self insure if they so choose. When you add up all the number of Congressional staffers (including CBO and GAO) you’re talking roughly 22,000 people.
So we’re supposed to be happy with a deal that screws 320,022,000 Americans instead of just 320,000,000?
My first choice is repeal. My second is defunding. My third is delay. Ive read a lot of the arguments on FR over the past few hours and I think its the way of least harm at this point.
There is what you want and what you can get. The Senate effectively killed the defund option. The House has already decided that it isnt going to defend that patch of ground, so why belabor it? The question is whether delay is acceptable as opposed to full implementation?
I understand the sentiments expressed to just let the act go into law and let the rats own it. Understood, but it overlooks the real harm that will come to Americans if it does go into effect. I agree that in war there are times when the best choice amongst bad choices is to call in artillery on your own position. This is not one of those times. There are other options on the table.
What ultimately convinced me to come in favor of delay is a detail that has been talked about a bit but not so much: the situation with the computer software. Its just not ready. And that has the potential to cause a complete meltdown. Yes, it would be gratifying to watch the rats beloved mcconnelcare crash and burn in a sadistic sort of way, but dont forget that real Americans would be harmed as a result. If our best argument for conservatism is that well harm Americans less, but were still OK with harming them, then I think weve already lost.
Second, delay allows us time to make our arguments and continue the steady drip, drip, drip of negative information coming out about mcconnelcare. One thing that we have now that we didnt have even a month ago is the costs of coverage under the exchanges. We have the real data. Not conjecture: this is what mcconnelcare is going to cost YOU. That will allow for websites like www.seehowbadACAis.com Dont underestimate the value of sticker shock. Also, if worse does come to worst a year from now, we will have had time to educate people on the ramifications of noncompliance.
Also, there is some PR value to be had in having stood back from the initial position of defund. Our side has given some. The other side is refusing to even negotiate. While we shouldnt expect anything but propaganda from the MSM, the truth has a way of getting out.
I dont trust Speaker Boehner to stand firm on anything. But simply because he hasnt the last 50 times doesnt necessarily mean that he wont shock us and do it this time. And I did notice the information coming to light that the gop conference is pretty happy with this. That includes some fairly good conservatives that are not in a mood to agree with much of anything. I understand it isnt much, but you fight with the Army you have, not the one you wish you had.
Finally, I think that digging in on delay will cause some defections on the other side. Joe Manchin being the first, but I think there will be others. The other side is evil, but they arent completely stupid. They know this isnt ready for prime time and Id bet theyre not all that keen on being left holding the bag if it collapses in a heap. Dingy Hairy can talk the talk, but I doubt that hell be able to keep all of his members in line if the House digs in its heels on a one year delay.
“I believe the Reid and Administration tactic is to expect government shutdown, no agreement, and by next weekend...the journalism media device to blast away at Republicans and the House across the nation. Collapse would occur by Monday or Tuesday after that, and the Democrats would score big with their supporters (ever how few still exist).”
I think you’ve nailed it. The problem though is the House is very much within the beltway bubble.
It isn’t Obamacare anymore. It is now Democratcare.
Change the narrative for 2014.
I really hope Roberts struggles with what he did every day of his life.
“they would still pay the workers for sitting home eating candy and chips and watching tv.”
That may be a good deal in the long run.
One of the most prosperous times in America occurred when the House, Senate, and Presidency were all engaged for months in discussing whether the President did or did not get a lewinsky from that woman, Monica Lewinsky.
“In some small way we can take some credit...due to our calls/emails!!!!”
Keep em coming.
Here is a good resource: free faxes to the House. Here’s a link. You can change the phone number to send it to LOCAL offices. They’ll do five a day for you.
“Most newspapers are too liberal to consider posting such letters.”
Yes and no. Smaller local papers are often relatively desperate for content. And don’t forget the comments section on the websites (lib or not): those are less edited than the letters section printed on dead tree.
This is a total failure in the making, moving in slow speed.
The House GOP had the chance to reduce the total government expenditures for FY 2014 , reducing government spending (exlcuding ObamaCare) by something like 3%, maybe 4%.
Not only is this budget increasing the total spending of the US government, it does nothing to stem the need to increase the debt ceiling.
Without reducing spending in this budget the Houes GOP doesn’t have a leg to stand on in the coming Debt Limit fight.
They surrendered, completely, to the special interest groups that have borroughed so deeply into the DC doupoly nothing short of a credit default, forced bail-in of private retirement accounts, and/or a mass devaluation of the USD/ US Treasuries is going to stop the spiralling collapse.
Any podunk House member who sends you a email or postal letter claiming they’ve won this fight, is
1. a Podunk radish farmer with no real power
2. completely owned by the lobbyists who pad his campaign
3. lying to your face and calling you a rube
Within 2 years, We’re looking at a slow and steady increase in all energy costs (excluding NatGas), a loss of purchasing power for the greenback, and 30 Treasury interest rates around 6%, where the US Federal government will owe more in yearly interest payments than the entirety of collected taxes and fees.
Absolute bankruptcy has arrived, the GOP in DC are feathering their nests in the final hours before the meltdown.
I concur. The flaw with this administration is the commander-in-chief. He is not a leader. Let the media nationalize the issue! The Repubs just need to strategize and hold their ground. Drag it out. When the MSM cries "shutdown, shutdown", sooner or later even the LI voters are going to ask "why? why?". It is up to the Repubs to make their message known. Oh, wait, that requires a spine. (sigh)
It would seem there actually is a spine implant that is stiffening the House Leadership resolve. Unlike the quite visible Cruz stiffener in the Senate, the implants in the House are not so visible.
Recrnt events indicate their presence however.
While I agree that small, local papers are like gosip columns, they are not normally connnected with larger syndicated news sources (They simply can’t afford the entry fee’s).
In our area, 100 miles from Mdison, WI we have TWO newspapers. One, a very tiny local area paper and one connected with the liberal news outlet in Madison. The local paper will report of bakes asles, 4H projects and typical rural farm local stuff but NEVER will you see letters to the editor posted. On the other hand, the “Madison Connection” (as I call them) will post letters when the content of such letters SUPPORTS liberalism attitudes but seldom anything else.
Why should we give them our support? It appears they’ve only proposed to delay O-care past the 2014 election! That does not help our cause!
“In our area, 100 miles from Mdison, WI we have TWO newspapers. One, a very tiny local area paper and one connected with the liberal news outlet in Madison. The local paper will report of bakes asles, 4H projects and typical rural farm local stuff but NEVER will you see letters to the editor posted. On the other hand, the Madison Connection (as I call them) will post letters when the content of such letters SUPPORTS liberalism attitudes but seldom anything else.”
Then you use other resources. Post blogs. Send letters outside your immediate area. Offer to write a column. Hand out fliers at street corners. Do a freeway overpass protest. There are lots of avenues for getting the word out.
I’d say it’s most important that you and those who you can influence (i.e. your immediate family) keep the faxes, e-mails and calls going to your reps. Even if the reps are liberal pukes. Even if they spit on the correspondence. Even if they hang up the phone. It takes me less than 5 minutes to phone or fax ALL of my reps (2 senators and 1 rep). And yes, I’ve timed it. Here’s a resource for sending free faxes:
This is a numbers game.
0bama states we have to cover the cheques written by Congress
If you cannot repeal programs to reduce the total spend, you remove one of 0bama’s arguments during the debt ceiling debate
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