Skip to comments.New House GOP bill delays health law by 1 year
Posted on 09/28/2013 11:36:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai
House Republicans on Saturday pushed the government to the edge of a partial shutdown next week, insisting that President Barack Obamas health care law be delayed a year in defiance of White House and the Democratic-controlled Senate.
They rejected a Senate bill passed Friday that would keep the government operating another 45 days and make no changes to the health law. Instead, House Republicans prepared to pass their own version Saturday and throw the issue back to the Senate, which is not scheduled to return until Monday afternoon, 10 hours before the shutdown deadline.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has insisted the Senate would not pass a bill that alters the law. The White House has said Obama would veto such a bill.
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Obama cannot agree to this without some massive loss of face; it will effectively be an admission of the horrific disaster that his hallmark legislation turned out to be.
He will let this nation crash and burn before he admits to failure.
He already lost face internationally. He can’t keep from losing face here.
Sorry, not good enough.
Big O and the Old Man Reid painted themselve in the corner! Instead of negotiating, they would not listen to reason at all!
FUBO and FUHR and FUDEMS.
Lesse, did I run out of FU?
It would be a plan if the proponents were such that promises they have ever made or make would be kept, but history has shown us this is not the case.
To delay the instantiation of Obamacare for the common man and woman not associated with an Obama Privileged Exempt Group could be beneficial IF our RINO proponents actually intended to do something like get rid of, or try to defund (again) this socialist law. However, they have no such intention. In fact, their delay actually helps Obama and the Democrats because it removes the personal tragedies and financial heartache from the 2014 Congressional Election mix completely. In other words, at the 2014 elections, it would be a law-not-yet-implemented and the subject of many many lies that could not be refuted.
Our Republican leadership is power-corrupt, and they will say or do anything to maintain that power. Do not listen to them, do not believe them, do not trust them. They only want their power and they will sell your children down that river to keep it.
I would love to see one of the two scenarios.
Reid does what he did this last time...with the Rinos he strips out the health funding, and sends it back to the HOuse.
Boehner faced with a govt shutdown passes a bill to fund the govt for six months. He says we will not have the American people held hostage.
And let the damn Obamacare kick in. The people very quickly will see what the results are, and feel the pain.
or REid passes the House bill as is and sends it to the president who vetos the bill.
Then back to the House where Boehner agrees to fund the govt.
I see know benefit in letting low information voters off the hook here. They need to feel the effects of this terrible health care law.
It is my belief the Obamacare Law is illegal to begin with.
It required the bribing of several senators to get it to pass. That act of voting fraud is definately illegal!
That among several other things!
No not know...
In short I agree with you...
What I would like to see is the house passing the 1 year delay, add in funding for Keystone and send it back to the senate. Then I would like to see the senate democrats go along and pass it to Obama.
If everyone had a set of cajones, they would let Obama have it.
It's the RINO way to put things off now and worry about the future in the future. If you can't control the present when the means are there, how are you going to control the future?
Reid can then hold a vote on cloture,
add an amendment deleting the obamacare delay,
gets 51 votes to pass the amending bill,
and send it back to the House.
Just like the senate did with the first continuing resolution.
Reids senate mafia can do this over and over again.
It is ugly, but it is true.
Here’s an idea, instead of delaying this monstrosity, just destroy it, throw it into a fire and burn it..of course it wont happen since libs have been wanting for centuries to be able to control who lives and who dies
March the entire House out on the steps and fire up the cameras.
Pass out full text (three sentences) copies of the fifteen second speech.
"Here is the bill to the Senate, we funded everything except the Un-Affordable No-Care Act"
"They will never see any money for that."
This would be a serious mistake in many ways including letting Obama off the hook for the 2014 elections.
The LIV feels nothing. This law harms people who are currently sick. Infanticide and now death camps. We all know where this is heading. Stop the fascists now.
Along with the rest of us...???
The house should hack out 50 billion dollars and pass the CR.
Punish the senate for their actions.
That’s how I negotiate. When I give someone a good deal and they turn around and make a low ball offer I go in the opposite direction.
They already have. Numerous private and state plans already kaput -- no funding and no budget after the first of the year. It would not even be legal to re-enact those plans. No going back now and no alternative (as you say) put forth by the Republicans.
The defunding should have occurred three years ago and on an ongoing basis since then.
He won’t lose face for a delay. He will come up with the wiggle worm wording, ask congress to fix a few problems such as the medical device tax, have them spin their wheels and use any delay to advantage in the 2014 elections. Every time you think the Republicans have sunk to a new level of stupidity, they prove you wrong.
Awesome. Now the Dems can sweep the midterms next year by bragging about the great Obamacare that they created for America, which the evil Republicans made us all wait another year before being able to enjoy.
We’re just four votes away from prevailing on the cloture vote. THis thing could unravel in the senate.
I guess I should just shut up...Boehner did the right thing. Let’s support him...
Now we will see what will happen in the Senate. I find it hard to believe that we won’t get a few more Senators behind Cruz this time around.
I’m starting to smell a win for our team here.
Oh I don’t know this way it can again be pushed off until the mid term elections are over and the public will have not gotten the full taste of Obamacare.
Seems like it is win win for the Dems if you ask me. They get to delay it while blaming the republicans yet it gets implemented still just a year later in 2015.
It is almost as if Boehner and Obama cooked this plan up together.
Real answer...private clinics on a pay-as-you-can basis, with a minimum for a visit. The catch? Maybe if you've got a dread disease, the only care you'll get is a book about nutrition, healthy lifestyle, and exercise.
The fact is it's impossible to care for everyone with the most expensive treatments. If it is necessary to meet a need, cheaper alternatives will be discovered and used.
Republicans in the US House are scum if this is true, this one year delay will allow voters to not experience the pain of Obama care before the election thus aiding democrats to win.
We are so stupid.
That is EXACTLY what every Democrat wants!
Delay ObamaCare until AFTER the 2014 election.
There is a good chance we can win the Senate in 2014 and hold the House. If that occurs we can then kill it dead.
I hope you’re right.
So many of these Senate campaigns of 2010 and 2012 that looked promising have wilted under the onslaught of the MSM.
In case you missed it, this delay is what the democrats wanted in the first place, it delays voters from the pain of Obamacare until after the election, so to support Bone-us is stupid.
I have Blue Cross of Arkansas. I’ve gotten mail from them saying they are cancelling my policy as January 1, 2014 to comply with the ACA. However, I can keep the policy I have in place through 2014.
Not exactly confusing, but a wild(not in a good way) situation. Our state(governor) has been really big on the ACA as opposed to our neighbors Louisiana and Texas.
If Obamacare is funded, the subsidies starting in January will constitute a morphine drip from which Americas health-care system will not recover. If not stopped now, Obamacare is forever.
Real easy to sit at your Keyboard Kommando Station and say that.
Just a bit more difficult in the real world of state insurance commissioners and federal law.
So the longer it is before Obamacare is defunded and/or abolished, the more harm it’s going to do. Look, I’m sorry that people are going to suffer. They should take it up with the RINOs who didn’t filibuster Obamacare when it was first voted in.
If bribing legislators was enough to get a law rescinded, we'd have a lot simpler society. Why do you think they call the second in command "the whip?"
So how does delaying the bill help anyone but the Democrats to give them a clear shot at 2013?
Good for them — put the ball back in the Senate’s court and see if the Republican Senators will grow a pair in the meantime.
Half measures never get the job done.
That is such a joke.
They've altered that bill for big business, and they've altered it for insider cronies, and they've altered it for members of congress and their cronies, but they won't "pass a bill that alters the law."
Reid and his and Obama's minions are despicable.
This will be fun.
Reid and Obambi have already said they want a shut down, and will blame it on the House GOP (and the TEA party). The MSM is geared up for that, and so is the Senate. Up to the point where Harkin and others are hinting that “something needs to be done” about the TEA party.
Yet, the House GOP follows along the script.
The Senate holds the power, and I fully expect that to become clear soon. Or that Obama will just order healthcare bill enforced, and let the courts settle out who pays.
You are thinking of the final vote to amend and send back to the House. The cloture vote was 79 to 19. We lost badly. This will rise or fall on Boehner's willingness to stand on some ground, almost any ground, and Reid's intransigence in saying he will not accept anything but a clean CR as passed by the Senate.
I agree. Let the dammmm thing roll out and then let everyone see!
No wonder the RINOs are going for it.
SLAY IT. Don’t delay it,
Boehner is rescuing Obama, just like Putin did with Barky’s Red Line gaffe.
I agree totally with Rush on this. ObamaCare’s most intense pain won’t be felt by Americans until AFTER the 2014 Mid-term Elections. Furthermore, Obama and his MSM accomplices will blame all post-2014 pain on the GOP.
Well, as always politics is the art of the possible.
“No money for the beast this year” has to beat “keep on feeding it.”
Why? Given the control of the Senate and POTUS by Demos, isn't this move excellent?
“I agree. Let the dammmm thing roll out and then let everyone see!”
See what? The first people enrolling will be the ones getting freebies. This is a standard democrat vote buying operation. Do you honestly think that Obamacare is about healthcare? Do you think that Pelosi and Reid give a rat’s a$$ if people are dying out there? Nope.
Obamacare is about getting people hooked on the federal government. It’s about power. Every Obamacare recipient will be a democrat voter because republicans are threatening to take it away.
Medicare is just as socialist as obamacare but nobody is talking about defunding it because millions are already hooked.
Once obamacare is implemented the fight will end.
....or we could just kill it outright....
There seem to be two diverging opinions in the FR threads regarding 2014 impact. I fail to see the notion that a 1-year delay puts it off till AFTER the election. If it is 1 year, I note that the election is 1 year and 1 month. Doesn't that fact make the issue even more to the forefront of the 2014 campaign? It's not just the exact timing of the end of the delay, but the notion that it is a current and relevant issue. That should be enough to make it even more of an issue during primaries, and certainly for the big election month of October 2014.