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NCAA calls lawsuit 'misdirected' [Paterno family lawsuit should be tossed]
ESPN/AP ^ | Sept. 26, 2013

Posted on 09/28/2013 8:04:07 AM PDT by Colofornian

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To: Uncle Chip

You mean Tom Harmon, js’s neighbor, fellow church member, and all around friend? That Tom Harmon?

Ask John why the prosecutors didn’t call V2 to testify during the js trial. They knew damn well who he was. During the preliminary hearings for GS/TC/GS, one of the defense attorneys asked one of the prosecutors if they knew his identity, and (from eye witness accounts), he looked to his bosses and had an “Oh Shit” look on his face.


21 posted on 09/28/2013 10:27:00 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: JohnG45

I don’t have to explain anything to you. You don’t read. You don’t listen. You don’t learn. Any efforts to educate you get washed away after you know you’re beaten, and you just allow the thread to fade away. You love to run your mouth, but you have nothing to back it up with.


22 posted on 09/28/2013 10:29:58 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Everybody on campus knew what was going on at PSU. Penn Stste Creamery even had a phallic shaped ice cream treat called the Sandusky that they pulled once the scandal broke.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2805563/posts

I find it amazing that people continue to defend the pedophile enablers who made it possible for Sandusky to prey on young boys for as long as he did.


23 posted on 09/28/2013 10:37:01 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

Urban myth/lie that you apparently fell for. The Creamery (the best ice cream in the world, btw) doesn’t sell ice cream in any manner other than cones, cups, and 1/2 gallons/gallons. Never has, never will. They don’t sell “treats”.

They did have a flavor named after js - as he was a local hero. The second mile was the largest charity of it’s kind in the state, and George Bush named him one of the 1,000 points of light. I guess HE knew what was going on as well, huh?

You keep believing what you want though. It makes you look really lazy.


24 posted on 09/28/2013 10:44:49 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Whatever. I guess I am in good company. Rush Limbaugh fell for your “urban myth” too.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/11/10/what_happy_valley_knew_about_sandusky

I do not remember him issuing a retraction for saying it. Perhaps because it was true?


25 posted on 09/28/2013 10:54:49 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

Rush was fooled by a picture posted on the internet that day. It was NOT a picture from the creamery. They don’t do sundaes, treats, sprinkles, etc. They only do ice cream.

For you to impugn the employees of the University Creamery like you did speaks volumes about you.

Like others, you ran your mouth with no research, without thinking.

BTW, if you’re in the Northeast this weekend, some of those same employees (students) are out “canning” for THON. THON is the largest student-run philanthropy in the world, and just last year donated $12.5 million to the Four Diamonds Fund for the cure to childhood cancer.

Open up your wallet if you see the students.


26 posted on 09/28/2013 11:04:03 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

“Once it goes to discovery,”

Once the NCAA and those who wrote the fake report are under oath, we will learn much.


27 posted on 09/28/2013 11:08:37 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States...)
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To: jospehm20
Everybody on campus knew what was going on at PSU.

Then why aren't all of them being indicted. Knowing of a crime and failing to report is a crime in itself.

Penn Stste Creamery even had a phallic shaped ice cream treat called the Sandusky that they pulled once the scandal broke.

Why aren't the owners of the Creamery being indicted??? The Creamery appears to have been advertizing for him.

I suspect that most knew or suspected that he was gay but not that he was a pedophile.

I find it amazing that people continue to defend the pedophile enablers who made it possible for Sandusky to prey on young boys for as long as he did.

All the kids molested were from the 2nd Mile Charity which was run by a child psychologist with connections with the state and county's public welfare department.

You should be asking why that charity and its records were allowed to disappear into anonymity and one of its sponsors brought in to cover its trail -- yes I am referring to Louie Freeh, one of 2nd Mile Charity's financial backers.

28 posted on 09/28/2013 11:09:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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“You criticize the then graduate assistant (Mike McQueary) for not going to the police but GOING TO HIS SUPERIOR PATERNO, but then you let Paterno off the hook by saying he (Paterno) went to HIS SUPERIORS and NOT THE POLICE and that was all you would expect anyone to do under the circumstances.”

Mike McQueary saw what he thought was sexual contact. He had an obligation to report what he thought was a crime.
Paterno heard a second hand report that was unclearly described. He did what was correct. He had witnessed no crime.


29 posted on 09/28/2013 11:10:17 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States...)
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To: jospehm20

Some urban myths die hard, don’t they???

BTW what part of that ice cream dish that Rush is holding up is supposed to indicate that the person for whom it is named is a pedophile???


30 posted on 09/28/2013 11:22:30 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Chip - As a former PSU athlete, student, second mile volunteer, resident of State College - I have never, ever heard anyone state that they thought js was “gay”...that’s a non-starter.

js’s image around town was that of reverence because of the second mile. Everyone was fooled - which is why Clemente put him in the top 1% of deceivers/child molesters.


31 posted on 09/28/2013 11:26:51 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: jospehm20
Here was the picture posted on another forum that Rush fell for:

Do you really think the Creamery - who serves millions of cones and cups/year uses what appears to be some sort of Fiesta Ware bowls for all their customers? Uh. No. They use styrofoam cups and you are NOT allowed to mix flavors - which this picture shows. Think, dammit!

32 posted on 09/28/2013 11:38:01 AM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

I don’t know how long he has had them but he has many of the mannerisms of a gay man.

Furthermore he is given a sweetheart retirement deal by a university president who said that he wanted to make Penn State the most gay friendly university in the country.

He didn’t molest young girls did he — just young boys.

People at “gay friendly” Penn State were probably taught to overlook things like that and see what it cost them.


33 posted on 09/28/2013 11:58:47 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Spanier barely knew who js was. I hated Spanier (like any conservative would) while he was President, but his knowledge of js and his proclivities is/was basically nil.


34 posted on 09/28/2013 12:03:37 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

I guarantee that gay friendly Spanier knew who every gay person on that campus was. He may have kept his distance but he knew. And when it came time for a sweetheart retirement deal for Sandusky he was Johnny on the spot to give him a deal that keeps him and 2nd Mile around.


35 posted on 09/28/2013 12:13:48 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Well, we agree on a lot Chip, but we’ll part ways on this one. This was a rubber stamp deal. Nothing more.


36 posted on 09/28/2013 12:15:39 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Did Spanier succeed in making Penn State a gay friendly campus as he promised to do???

How did that manifest itself???


37 posted on 09/28/2013 12:19:40 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

He sure did - not unlike most other college Presidents as well though. I just don’t see the connection between his liberalism and js.

The gubbmint didn’t either - as they granted him a security clearance after putting him through a pretty high level background check.


38 posted on 09/28/2013 12:23:59 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

I’ll go you one further.

Spanier wanted to sweep this under the rug and deal with it quietly — not to protect the football program — but to protect the gay friendly atmosphere that he was creating at Penn State.

Afterall it’s not straights who molest young boys but gays and Sandusky’s crimes would expose him as a homosexual who had gone off the reservation.


39 posted on 09/28/2013 12:35:30 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

According to Ziegler - who I trust in this - Spanier had to be reminded who js even was when he THOUGHT he was voluntarily testifying before the GJ (the subpoena was hidden by nutcase Cynthia Baldwin).

I think you’re reaching.

Ziegler - who is obviously a staunch conservative - actually likes Spanier, and considers him to be very truthful and forthcoming. They have talked and e-mailed back and forth more than most would think about this.


40 posted on 09/28/2013 12:46:11 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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