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What Now? Budget bill heads to House after Senate restores ObamaCare $$
FOX News ^ | Sept 27, 2013

Posted on 09/27/2013 5:12:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

House Republican leaders are stuck with a tough choice after Senate Democrats succeeded in passing a "clean" budget bill which, contrary to GOP wishes, includes full funding for ObamaCare.

The Senate, capping a dramatic week on Capitol Hill, approved the bill on Friday, after Democrats stripped a Republican-backed provision to defund the health law. The final vote was 54-44.

The bill now returns to the House, and is seen by some lawmakers as a sort of legislative hot potato. If the two chambers cannot agree on a final bill by midnight on Monday, then the government will shut down. Neither side wants to be left holding the bill if that happens.

House Speaker John Boehner could, theoretically, just call up the Senate-passed bill and rely on mostly Democrats to pass it. But House Republicans are under heavy pressure, now, from fellow conservatives to stand by their demand that ObamaCare be defunded, or least delayed.

"I don't know of anyone who wants to shut down the government. The only thing we want to shut down is ObamaCare," Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., said.

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, who staged an unsuccessful effort to stall the bill in the Senate, predicted the House would restore anti-ObamaCare provisions -- and urged Senate Republicans to unite with them. "Today, far too many Republicans joined Harry Reid in giving the Democrats the ability to fund ObamaCare," he said.

Boehner signaled he will not accept the Senate-passed bill in its current form.

"The House will take action that reflects the fundamental fact that Americans don't want a government shutdown and they don't want the train wreck that is ObamaCare," spokesman Brendan Buck said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defund; federalist58; guncontrol; obama; obamacare; rinocare; secondamendment
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Dear Mr. Speaker:

The duty and honor is on the House to save the Republic.

James Madison and the Framers gave you the tools to block a power grabbing chief executive teaming up with an equally treasonous senate to illegally expand the federal government beyond its constitutional limits (see Federalist 58).

The House and the House alone has the awesome constitutional power and duty to deny this illegal expansion and destruction of the constitution by simply denying funding for the President's runaway, nation-wrecking expansionist program. If the House does not vote to fund it, it cannot be funded. And there's nothing the Senate or the President or the SCOTUS or the godless liberal media can do about it.

You are the elected representatives of we the people and we have your backs.

There is no other business before the House at this time that can possibly be more important to the saving of the constitution and the Republic than this.

Let the petulant President and the Senate and the press threaten and howl right up to Nov 2014 if necessary. We the people know the truth and there will be a new Republican Senate elected by a landslide in 2014 along with a new Republican President in 2016.

Hold the line!

Save the constitution!

Save the Republic!

Regards,

We the People.

1 posted on 09/27/2013 5:12:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump


2 posted on 09/27/2013 5:13:14 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jim Robinson

Boehner save the Republic ? This useless tool couldn’t save his daughter from marrying a drug-dealing Rastafarian Cat-In-the-Hat.


3 posted on 09/27/2013 5:14:08 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Jim Robinson
Awesome.

(prayers up, Jim)

4 posted on 09/27/2013 5:16:56 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Jim Robinson

Why don’t they simply send back to the Senate individual bills funding segments of the government? If Reid won’t pass them then he will be responsible for the shutdown.


5 posted on 09/27/2013 5:19:39 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Jim Robinson

Peter King (Traitor,NY) just roundly trasher Ted Cruz on O’Reilly. This is one RINO who definitively needs to go.

I like Pat Buchanan’s idea - send them a bill funding every department, but no Obamacare in any of it.


6 posted on 09/27/2013 5:19:42 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Just saw Peter King on O’Reilly. He’s pissed at Cruz, says Cruz knew all along he couldn’t win so he wasn’t sincere in trying.

So I guess Cruz was supposed to know the fix was in and fall in line according to this creep.


7 posted on 09/27/2013 5:21:43 PM PDT by Kenny (<p>)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The duty and responsibility is in his hands. At this moment, he is the most powerful man on the planet. If he fails to do his constitutional duty as set forth by James Madison and the Framers, we lose our constitutional Republic. Obama will have succeeded in his efforts to transform America from a constitutional Republic to a lawless dictatorship.

We pray that God grants our Speaker with the wisdom and strength to take the appropriate constitutional steps to save the Republic.


8 posted on 09/27/2013 5:22:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well American patriot. At least you shall have perhaps thousands of us holding you up in prayer for your upcoming surgery.
May our Lord God and Creator use HIS almighty Hand in fully guiding all the hospital's staff in making Monday as painless and comfortable for you as possible.
No response required. You take care Jim. George
9 posted on 09/27/2013 5:24:22 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Jim Robinson

Simple. Keep sending individual CRs for different departments without OBIEONEcare funding.

Each time the Democrat-controlled Senate will have to explain why they won’t fund:

The DOD
The VA
The Social Security Administration, etc.

Sooner or later, Democrat inflexibility on this issue will become apparent to the persuadable electorate.


10 posted on 09/27/2013 5:26:54 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: allendale

That is the plan. We need to pray that Mr. Speaker maintains the strength to see it through, no matter how long it takes. He and our House Republicans and any Democrats who join in are going to need 100% of our support and encouragement. The Godless liberal media will be swarming like devils 24/7.


11 posted on 09/27/2013 5:28:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

What these traitors should be saying is: “I don’t care about next election, I’m here to represent the people now, in this fight.”

But they won’t, all they care about is the “next” election.

Well what if there is no “next” election GOP? Because the way you’re going the Democrats will have a totalitarian hold after 2014 and they won’t have to bother with you idiots anymore. Strategize that, losers!


12 posted on 09/27/2013 5:28:57 PM PDT by Kenny (<p>)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Thank you very much, Marine_Uncle! Semper Fi!

God bless our FReepers. They are truly the very best.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 5:30:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Kenny

Excuse me, but Peter King is a suckass surrender monkey.


14 posted on 09/27/2013 5:31:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m confused. I thought the bill was to run the government a little while longer WITHOUT a budget. Why is Fox calling this a budget bill? Shouldn’t it be called an anti-budget bill?


15 posted on 09/27/2013 5:31:30 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Jim Robinson

You are correct Mr. Robinson.

Good Luck


16 posted on 09/27/2013 5:31:36 PM PDT by Helotes
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To: Jim Robinson

The potential of a “government shutdown” only entered the picture when dingy harry arbitrarily refused to consider the House bill. If there is a shutdown it will come as a direct result of dhimmi (in)action.


17 posted on 09/27/2013 5:31:46 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Jim Robinson
RE: "God bless our FReepers. They are truly the very best."
Amen to that Jim.
18 posted on 09/27/2013 5:32:24 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Jim Robinson

Watch and learn how powerful the communists hold on America is now. America is held at hostage by the communists Democratic Party, the MSM, and King Obama, the communists black Muslim. The 2012 election was the only real chance we had. It was the lesser of the two evils that would have destroyed the communists hold in America.


19 posted on 09/27/2013 5:34:06 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Jim Robinson
Uh, there is NO budget only a CR.

Total irresponsibly on the part of the "reasonable" wons.

20 posted on 09/27/2013 5:34:46 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent Jim.

Bump!


21 posted on 09/27/2013 5:35:51 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Excuse me, but Peter King is a suckass surrender monkey.

I concur.

On a different subject, why is O'Reilly obviously for Obamacare? I don't usually watch him, is he a lib?

22 posted on 09/27/2013 5:36:09 PM PDT by Kenny (<p>)
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To: gitmo

Yeah, they’re all confused on a whole lot of issues. The demonrats have batardized our entire system of government. However, as of this very moment, the constitution still rules and it is generally recognized that the house and the house alone holds the constitutional power to deny the purse.


23 posted on 09/27/2013 5:36:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Kenny

O’Reilly is generally a government man. He’ll opt for the path of least resistance every time. No fight in him whatsoever. Just a bloviator.


24 posted on 09/27/2013 5:38:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Paladin2

Are CRs even constitutional?


25 posted on 09/27/2013 5:39:05 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Impeach We Much!)
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To: rockrr

You are 100% correct.


26 posted on 09/27/2013 5:39:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

shut it down.


27 posted on 09/27/2013 5:40:06 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: rfp1234

Well, Traitor Roberts would likely think so as it is the will of the people as expressed by their elected representatives.


28 posted on 09/27/2013 5:42:03 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: gitmo
Why is Fox calling this a budget bill?

Because they are idiots. I've seen the term "budget" used several places.

This is not a budget. The US hasn't had a budget in many years. This is a Continuing Resolution, or CR, that is meant to fund the gvt for a short period of time. And every time the CR is getting ready to expire we go through this big mess of funding this and trying to defund that. Ridiculous!

The dysfunctional morons in DC need to get their act together and have a budget like the rest of us.

29 posted on 09/27/2013 5:45:24 PM PDT by upchuck (nobamacare must be stopped before it can live down to our expectations.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you. That comment came before I read the thread about dingy’s implicit threat (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3072156/posts).

Now it’s just a waiting game to see who blinks.


30 posted on 09/27/2013 5:45:27 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Jet Jaguar

That is an Excellent letter. I’m with Buchannon crowd, Boehnor should send it back piece by piece, a CR for the Pentagon, One for Medicare, One for SS, and so forth.


31 posted on 09/27/2013 5:49:26 PM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Jim Robinson
at this point, I don't even care anymore....let the rats eat their freaking cake.....

but then we'll have immigration for all forced on us....

consequences to electing rats, no matter how.......

32 posted on 09/27/2013 5:55:25 PM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: gitmo

Why is Fox calling it a “budget”? Because Obama called it a “budget”.


33 posted on 09/27/2013 6:06:19 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: rockrr

I couldn’t believe the white house reporter, Dana what’s her name, asked Reid why a government shutdown wouldn’t be his fault. The look on his face was priceless. He stammered a little then said something about counting caucuses.


34 posted on 09/27/2013 6:08:01 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Senator Cruz: “ “Today, far too many Republicans joined Harry Reid in giving the Democrats the ability to fund ObamaCare,” he said.”

I’m sorry, but Senator Cruz is simply wrong on this. No matter what, the Democrats will always have the ability to reinsert Obamacare funding back into any bill the passes the senate. Senator Cruz’s method was going to force a shutdown. So was voting for cloture. Either path leads to either surrender by one party or the other, compromise, or shutdown.

BTW, I still think Republicans should have stood firm with Cruz on this regardless of whether they believed it would work or not. I personally didn’t think it would work, but once Cruz made his stand, the rest of the party should have backed his play. Had they done so, we’d be pretty much where we are now anyway—approaching an impasse and a shutdown—but we could have at least proved we were ready to stand together as one team on this.


35 posted on 09/27/2013 6:12:19 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: upchuck

I see that my two NC senators betrayed the nation. One is a Rino, one a democRat. I will oppose both Senator Burr (R) & Senator Hagan (D,)


36 posted on 09/27/2013 6:13:01 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I just read of your up coming surgery. I will hold you and yours in my prayers.

And reluctantly, Speaker Boehner also. May God grant him wisdom.


37 posted on 09/27/2013 6:13:35 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: CitizenUSA
"Today, far too many Republicans GOPe RINOs and 'Rat wannabes (that's YOU Juan and Linda - go get a room) joined Harry Reid in giving the Democrats the ability to fund ObamaCare,”"

Improved. There's no fixing it now.

38 posted on 09/27/2013 6:18:08 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: CitizenUSA

And the house will always have the ability to reject the senate’s amendments. The House has the sole power to make appropriations (or deny them) per James Madison, Federalist 58. There’s absolutely nothing the senate can do about it other than make threats.

And this can play out all the way to Nov 2014 if necessary. The people know the truth and know who to vote out. And there is nothing more important to the preservation of the constitution and our Republic! All other business can wait.


39 posted on 09/27/2013 6:19:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: CitizenUSA

No matter what, the Democrats will always have the ability to shutdown the government to fund Obamacare.

And confidence that they won’t have to.

House should send back it’s bill funding the government. There’s only one way to deal with blackmailers.


40 posted on 09/27/2013 6:19:16 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: rockrr

rockrr: “The potential of a “government shutdown” only entered the picture when dingy harry arbitrarily refused to consider the House bill.”

I’m sorry, but that’s not really true. They did consider the House bill. Senator Cruz opposed cloture. He wanted the bill left open for debate which would have left the government unfunded. By voting for cloture, the bill was then open to amendment (reinsert Obamacare funding) and a final vote. Harry Reid effectively put the House bill up for a vote, and it failed 54 to 44. I think it was actually a bit more complicated than that, but effectively 54 Democrat senators voted against the House bill and voted for an amendment (and the bill) restoring Obamacare funding. It’s a simple matter of numbers, and the Democrats are the majority party in the Senate.


41 posted on 09/27/2013 6:19:24 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Thank you very much.


42 posted on 09/27/2013 6:19:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: CitizenUSA

The GOPers just wanted to toss it back to the House to leave their images untarnished.


43 posted on 09/27/2013 6:19:51 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jim Robinson
Hold the line!

Save the constitution!

Save the Republic!

AMEN to that.

44 posted on 09/27/2013 6:20:53 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Paladin2

What I don’t think you understand is the Democrats have the ability to restore Obamacare funding no matter what. Senator Cruz’s method was not going to stop the Democrats. It was going to result in a government shutdown. Voting for cloture didn’t stop the Democrats either. That’s also going to result in shutdown. There is no getting around the Democrat majority and the president. 44 Republicans voted against Obamacare. 54 Democrats voted for it.

Has Senator Cruz ever explained the end game here? Let’s say the Republicans had held firm and all voted against cloture. Then what? We wouldn’t have a CR, so we’d still be headed toward a government shutdown. Did Senator Cruz think this was going to give the Republicans more leverage? How? Democrats control the media, the Senate, and the presidency. I have little doubt they fear a shutdown.


45 posted on 09/27/2013 6:25:03 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Shut er down. We cannot go on like this, Deep in debt and having a plan to make it worse and destroy our health care all in one.


46 posted on 09/27/2013 6:26:56 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Jim Robinson
We need to pray that Mr. Speaker maintains the strength to see it through, no matter how long it takes.

You do realize what a stretch it is to hold the idea of courage and strength while thinking of John The Weakling Weeper? I very much hope I will be astounded.

47 posted on 09/27/2013 6:28:25 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Paladin2

Oh, I think a lot of Republican senators tarnished their images, but I don’t think did so by voting against Obamacare. They could have disagreed with Senator Cruz in private but backed the man’s play once he started down that path. They didn’t have to attack Senator Cruz. My point is simply that all paths lead to shutdown.


48 posted on 09/27/2013 6:29:11 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hey wait just a cotton pickin minute, I thought the Senate needed 60 votes to pass a bill, not 54! Can someone enlighten me as to how they got away with this!


49 posted on 09/27/2013 6:33:41 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: Jet Jaguar
What a damn circus.
50 posted on 09/27/2013 6:35:14 PM PDT by servantboy777
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