Skip to comments.Boehner: House won't accept 'clean' funding bill
Posted on 09/27/2013 12:36:24 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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"I do not expect (a shutdown) to happen," Boehner said. "The American people don't want the president's health care bill, and they don't want the government to shut down. Republicans are listening."
Go, Boehner, GO!! Hold the line!! Defund obamacare!!
The GOP needs to turn the Dem’s terminology on its head and start talking about a “clean” bill being one that is free of Obamacare funding, and a “dirty” bill being one that includes Obamacare funding.
Sorry, Mr. Robinson, but Boehner is firmly GOPe. This is posturing on his part at best.
No one expected him to do what he did Friday either.
Praying for the best.
Go, Mr. Speaker, GO!!
Yeah, but all it would take is an early cocktail hour for The Boner and he’ll cave! Worthless, OWNED weasel!
But I Luv Ya Mr. Robinson :)!
Pray God grants Boehner the strength to hold the line! Deny funding for Obama’s nation killing train wreck!!
Boehner without his "deck of butts" would do anything to get them back.
In all seriousness.. just maybe the Good Lord got through to the right few.
Here's the link The Judge's comments start at the 1:00 minute mark.
Right now I’m praying Boehner does the right thing.
Wheepy knows he is toast if he blinks. Hold those feet to the fire.
Give Boehner a CHANCE to RCULAR Firing Squad is getting out of control.
Hitting FR “LIKE” button... and also “prayer” button.
It’s all in God’s Hands at this point. What I see happening is no-one will be able to afford health insurance but the government workers. We’ll ALL be uninsured and broke!
Boehner has a problem. There are genuinely conservative House members that are holding the leadership’s feet to the fire. Holding THEIR feet to the fire are their constituents. The net result is that Boehner does not have the votes to pass a CR that includes obamacare funding. In order to pass it, he would have to join the craven RINOS with Pelosi’s Dims. He knows that dog just won’t hunt, Jim.
...I’ll believe this only AFTER it happens.
Freeped and bumped.
Boehner’s plan is to let the Senate strip out the “defund” provision as they’re expected to do, and counter with a 1-year delay on everything related to the ACA, which is more likely to pass. It may actually be the superior plan anyway, as “defund” only covers items under the CR umbrella, and the individual subsidies scheduled to kick on on Jan 1 are not included in that - to me, that’s the part that must be stopped because once people start getting transfer payments, history shows that you’ll never get the program to stop.
He’s all we have right now. Apparently Boehner is facing sufficient pressure to focus his mind on this. At least for now, we need to encourage him.
The best way to predict the future is to create it yourself.
Feel free to steal it, I did.
Once they spend enough time in Washington, they ARE the same. They all belong to the Re-Election Party, dedicated to the enrichment of its members at taxpayer expense. They are all owned by special interests. Term limits is the only answer. Primary challenges help in the short run but the system corrupts them faster than we can remove them. The system itself must be overhauled.
Not only does Boehner face this within the House, but House members are trying to influence Senate GOP to vote against cloture.
CNS News: House Members in Open Revolt
I’ll join you there (praying for the best).
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Everytime he comes out and says something like this you know he’s going to cave on that specific point.
Thanks so much, sweet Leni.
God bless and keep you.
Thanks so much!
If Boehner can stand tall and deliver on this rhetoric, he deserves the praise and support he receives for this act.
Just as each and every legislative act he undertakes deserves scrutiny and appropriate reaction.
Hold the line, Mr. Speaker!!! Follow the clear, unwavering direction provided by your constituents, and the rest of the United States!
Ok, I have a question, because I am totally confused on all of this. If we “defund” obamacare, do the automatic things set to start up Jan 1 still happen? Do the tax increases that we already have, stop(haha). The 1 year delay that Boehner is thinking of, isn’t that the same thing that the Dem’s wanted to do, so we are playing right in to their hands. To me, the ONLY thing to do to make this totally go away is to go straight for Repeal and accept nothing else. If we just defund it, it’s still there isn’t it? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. I
So, in this respect, the "defund" plan doesn't work. (I still support Cruz because of the politics of it -- force the 'rats to "own" Obamacare over and over and over...)
"Delay" pushes everything back a year, basically playing a stalling game until the GOP can (in theory) gain enough control to really force a showdown with the White House in the 2014 midterms. It really doesn't affect the political optics of Obamacare much because the worst of it is the uncertainty factor, which will still be hanging in the air.
"Repeal" should, of course, be the ultimate goal, but that's unlikely to happen until 2017 at the earliest, unless a landslide in the mid-terms gives the GOP enough leverage to force Obama into massive concessions.
Thank you. My boss and I have been discussing this all morning and were just not clear on it.
We need to let them (the House GOP) know when they get it right, as loudly and as vehemently as we let them know when they get it wrong. And this is the RIGHT thing to do.
God bless Ted Cruz for taking his stand and shining a flood light on this. You KNOW the Old Boys club is hating him for it.
What was that saying? "I'd Rather be despised by the despicable than admired by the admirable?"
Well now. That's a darn shame. I'm all for the government "shutting down" if it will stop them from destroying out nation.
When did Americans start becoming such cowards? Seems to me most people are afraid of their own shadows. A bunch of impotent, pear-headed, loud mouthed, cowering little chihuahuas yapping forth one complaint after another as they hide in their little corner of the world unwilling to do what is necessary to make the changes we need to make to get back to the basics that made this country what it was before these liberal nutjobs got control. Small government is what this nation was founded with. As with everything else in life, when things are not working out the way they are supposed to, get back to the basics.
The cynic in me says of coyese he won’t accept a clean bill because the Senate sent back a dirty bill.
All about the word parsing.
Exactly! We have to show our approval when they move in the right direction. Otherwise, they’ll have no reason to keep moving that way.
coyese = course
the House will not approve the Senate version of the billThanks JimRob, and Speaker Boehner!
Lets start that conversation by acknowledging we arent going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants... bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society. Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors. [but hes not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
.........let us hope Bodhner/Cantor put their brains in the freezer and find someone that has one! Then, maybe we will get a “SMART” response for a change.
I like Pat Buchanan’s idea. Send them one CR at a time by department starting with the Defense department. Then dare Reid to stop the military checks.
Yup. And that was Senator Cruz’s plan all along too.
And the Heritage Foundation:
And before that, James Madison’s (Federalist 58).