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Boehner: No Funding Bill Without 1-Year Obamacare Delay
NewsMax ^ | 26 Sep 13 | AP

Posted on 09/26/2013 12:45:56 PM PDT by xzins

Speaker John Boehner said Thursday the GOP-controlled House will not accept a temporary spending bill from the Democratic Senate if it is shorn clean of a tea party plan to "defund Obamacare."

"I don't see that happening," Boehner told reporters.

At the same time, the Ohio Republican said House GOP leaders would unveil legislation to lift the government's borrowing cap, but only if the new health care law is delayed for a year. He defended that measure's relatively modest spending cuts even as some rank-and-file conservatives pressed for more.

"It does not cut spending significantly. It does not fix the problem," Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala., said of the debt ceiling package. He said he was undecided about whether to support it. "We need to significantly cut federal government spending, or long-term have a balanced budget constitutional amendment," he said.

Obamacare: Massive New Rules Revealed for 2013

Pressure is building on fractious House Republicans as a partial government shutdown looms at midnight Monday if a bitterly-divided Congress can't send a temporary spending bill to President Barack Obama on time.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid immediately rejected Boehner's proposal. Meanwhile, the Senate trudged ahead toward a Friday vote on stripping the defund Obamacare provision from the House-passed stopgap funding bill.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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1 posted on 09/26/2013 12:45:56 PM PDT by xzins
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“Any senator who votes with Majority Leader Harry Reid and the Democrats ... has made the decision to allow Obamacare to be funded,” Cruz told reporters after his marathon speech ended Wednesday at noon. Cruz himself has predicted that is exactly what the Senate will do, and he’s already called on House Republicans to reject the bill when it comes back to them.


2 posted on 09/26/2013 12:47:13 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

How ‘bout that so called “Supreme” Court and that John Roberts?! They sure made a mess for this country to have to clean up.


3 posted on 09/26/2013 12:48:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: xzins

Obama picks and chooses what laws he enforces. It makes no difference what congress passes. Wake up Boehner!


4 posted on 09/26/2013 12:48:51 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: xzins

This is why McCain and the RINOS are pissed off. Cruz destroyed their cover.


5 posted on 09/26/2013 12:48:51 PM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: xzins

Bone-us is doing this to give democrats cover for the elections in 2014, this way voters will not feel any pain before the election as the result of Obamacare.


6 posted on 09/26/2013 12:49:45 PM PDT by stockpirate (Build a gallows outside the US Capital and they will come...)
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To: xzins
but only if the new health care law is delayed for a year.

Not good enough Boner, no where near good enough.

FIGHT coward!

7 posted on 09/26/2013 12:50:21 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: frogjerk
This is why McCain and the RINOS are pissed off. Cruz destroyed their cover.

Anyone who votes for Obamacare in these votes will have that albatross around their necks...forever.

8 posted on 09/26/2013 12:51:02 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: stockpirate

One year will be a month before the election, so there will be time for the bad effects to kick in.

I’d prefer a 9 month delay, but the bottom line for me is that a delay gives time to fight.


9 posted on 09/26/2013 12:51:17 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Speaker John Boehner said Thursday the GOP-controlled House will not accept a temporary spending bill from the Democratic Senate if it is shorn clean of a tea party plan to "defund Obamacare." "I don't see that happening," Boehner told reporters.

That's because he plans on keeping his eyes closed when he signs off on it.

10 posted on 09/26/2013 12:52:30 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: frogjerk

Yes he did

gloriously


11 posted on 09/26/2013 12:53:53 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: xzins

At the same time, the Ohio Republican said House GOP leaders would unveil legislation to lift the government’s borrowing cap, but only if the new health care law is delayed for a year.

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This is a good start. For Boehner at least. He was ready, willing and able to swallow what the Senate to him to and do whatever they told him to do.


12 posted on 09/26/2013 12:54:03 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: xzins

Dammit!

Pulling Defeat from the jaws of Victory?

Just when we’re about to kill the whole thing, Boner is going to put it on life support?

Idiot!


13 posted on 09/26/2013 12:54:38 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Ted Cruz for President!)
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To: The Cajun

BUMP!


14 posted on 09/26/2013 12:54:57 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: The Cajun

Repeal is best

Defund is next best

Delay is third best

Removing offensive parts is 4th best

ALL of the above are better than implementation as planned. Delay gives time to actually fight, and there’s another court challenge that’s been allowed to go forward.


15 posted on 09/26/2013 12:54:59 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

This is same thing John Kerry did with his Syrian Faux Pas: Giving his opponent an advantageous retreat.

STOOOOOOPID!


16 posted on 09/26/2013 12:55:30 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Ted Cruz for President!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Bet roberts has some sH## in his closet or he and his family were politely threatened
17 posted on 09/26/2013 12:55:30 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (What you get when you refuse to vet)
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To: stockpirate
Bone-us is doing this to give democrats cover for the elections in 2014, this way voters will not feel any pain before the election as the result of Obamacare.

Exactly. If you aren't going to repeal it, then it should go into full effect as soon as possible.

18 posted on 09/26/2013 12:55:57 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Uncle Miltie

See #15


19 posted on 09/26/2013 12:56:01 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Headline:

BONER LOSES AT TIC-TAC-TOE WITH REID

20 posted on 09/26/2013 12:56:33 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Ted Cruz for President!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The mess where they are exempt from the pain.


21 posted on 09/26/2013 12:57:51 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: xzins

I give Harry and 0bummer 24 hours to accept Boner’s “sadly regressive proposal” while they snicker all the way through victory in 2014.


22 posted on 09/26/2013 12:57:57 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Ted Cruz for President!)
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To: justlurking

If you’re following that route,
the best thing to do would be to pass a condition
requiring implementation as passed,

NO WAIVERS.


23 posted on 09/26/2013 12:58:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: xzins

Hey Boehner...Your proctologist called. He found your head.


24 posted on 09/26/2013 12:58:36 PM PDT by oxcart (Journalism [sic])
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To: xzins

Xzins, you said it better than I could. Our gop leadership, if such an honorific could be bestowed on them, doesn’t have the spine for a fight.


25 posted on 09/26/2013 12:59:44 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: ronnie raygun

Most likely it had to do with the adoption of children from a foreign country; many times this can only occur through shady means.


26 posted on 09/26/2013 1:00:50 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: xzins

Well. That’s encouraging. Even temporary would be good.


27 posted on 09/26/2013 1:01:14 PM PDT by livius
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To: xzins
Wouldn't a more winning strategy be to keep the individual mandate, and let people experience firsthand how awful Obamacare will be? I'm not wishing misery on anyone, but wouldn't this give the Republicans more of a leg to stand on come November of next year?
28 posted on 09/26/2013 1:01:52 PM PDT by Fair Paul
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To: xzins
delayed funding is still funding

If the Republicans Fund Obamacare-They Own Obamacare.
29 posted on 09/26/2013 1:02:14 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: xzins
Delay gives the RATs cover for 2014.

The Republicans have some momentum on this right now.

Take advantage of the momentum, don't throw it away.

The courts, John Roberts was black mailed once, he'll be blackmailed again.
The courts are a dead end as they are now, we found that out the hard way.

30 posted on 09/26/2013 1:02:24 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To ensure democrat victories in congress?

This man’s wimpiness is a danger or is it complicity. The Uniparty of big government where no one really works a lot?


31 posted on 09/26/2013 1:02:36 PM PDT by stanne
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To: xzins
ALL of the above are better than implementation

I agree with you.

I wish that they could have at least pressed the Senate past cloture, and force all the cringing Dems to stand up and vote for Obamacare again.

But we have too many McCains and McClones in the Senate for that.

Next best is to do what the Democrats usually do, which is kill this thing with a thousand cuts. Bring the horror stories home to the constituents day after day, bring the costs home, the exemptions and carve-outs, the LIES from Obama...

If Boehner is coming out in favor of something like this, it means the phone lines are burning up. It's not going to stop. This fight will go on, day after day, and we can win it.

And NONE of it would have happened, not a whimper, except for Ted Cruz.

32 posted on 09/26/2013 1:03:48 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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but only if the new health care law is delayed for a year.

Not good enough Boner, no where near good enough.

Exactly. One year delay doesn't mean much. I'd like to see all exemptions removed, and alter it to implement it as mandatory for all government employees and their families, including Congress, for three years before other Americans are made to sign up for it. Let them taste this poison first.

33 posted on 09/26/2013 1:03:51 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Fair Paul; RKBA Democrat; Uncle Miltie

I keep hearing that “implementation” is the best strategy, but I keep thinking that’s what we were fighting against for the last 3 years.


34 posted on 09/26/2013 1:04:05 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: justlurking

People here keep jauntily saying “THEY should feel pain.”

Are you not part of “THEM” or are you government employees or people so wealthy you don’t have to worry about this?

Frankly, I don’t want to feel pain from Obamacare. Put it off and use the time to kill it.

Everybody in this country is scared of it and hates it, and the figures that have come out just today (even from Federal agencies) about the additional cost are terrifying.


35 posted on 09/26/2013 1:04:58 PM PDT by livius
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“Delay is third best”

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I think delay is what is gonna save our bacon. And I mean a 60-90 day delay.

Here’s why. In the next 60 days MILLIONS of employees are going to see the health care plan options for next year. Employers will submit group health care options from Humana and Blue Cross and whoever. And the premiums associated with those plans.

And they’ll see the confusing and expensive ObamaCare Marketplace options. And they will freak out. The (bleep) will be hitting the fan so hard, that every congress critter from here to the beltway will be told to DEFUND.


36 posted on 09/26/2013 1:05:11 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: frogjerk
This is why McCain and the RINOS are pissed off. Cruz destroyed their cover.

Bingo

37 posted on 09/26/2013 1:05:37 PM PDT by A message
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To: Fightin Whitey
And NONE of it would have happened, not a whimper, except for Ted Cruz.

I absolutely agree. None of this would have come about without Ted Cruz. Mike Lee, too.

Cruz has led.

The GOP-E doesn't know the meaning of the word.

38 posted on 09/26/2013 1:06:08 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Hey Boehner...Your proctologist called. He found your head.

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Indeed he did. Up Harry Reid’s ....


39 posted on 09/26/2013 1:06:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: xzins

Forget that.

Too much political maneuvering

They need to get rid of this thing or let it go forward and let the chips fall

Who cares at this point what happens as a result of this move and that move. Ted Cruz doesn’t

The party of losers are losers and if they don’t take on Cruz/ Reagan tactics they will continue to lose, handing our country over to the socialists

Repeal it dont fund it and then fix our broken medical care system in a well thought out manner

No delay


40 posted on 09/26/2013 1:07:31 PM PDT by stanne
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To: justlurking

Once in full effect it will be impossible to repeal. Delay is better than implementation...for the good of our health.


41 posted on 09/26/2013 1:07:37 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: xzins

I know I know......but its a good start! Remember two weeks ago????

They are listening folks. It wouldnt have come this far without folks like FReepers.

We called EVERYONE including Santa Claus!


42 posted on 09/26/2013 1:07:43 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I think delay is what is gonna save our bacon. And I mean a 60-90 day delay.

Any delay they pass will be for until after the Nov 2014 elections. I know some people are taking "one-year delay" literally to mean Oct 1, 2014; but none of these guys want the citizenry clued in about the true horrors of ObamaCare until after the mid-terms.

43 posted on 09/26/2013 1:08:58 PM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: xzins

Delay is a stupid idea. People need to suffer before they will want to change it.

(If they had the ability to understand without experiencing it, they would have voted Obama out in 2012.)


44 posted on 09/26/2013 1:09:21 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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Delay is stupid as is any idea that comes to us from the liberals via Boehner like this one


45 posted on 09/26/2013 1:09:22 PM PDT by stanne
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To: novemberslady

delayed implementation is still delayed implementation.

And for the last few years we’ve been fighting implementation of ObamaCare.

We keep losing sight of the fact that what we want is REPEAL!

Defunding was a “delaying tactic” to eventually buy the time to get to repeal.

Delay is also a delaying tactic.

Anything to prevent implementation, because once a government program has ever been implemented it has been next to impossible to stop it.


46 posted on 09/26/2013 1:10:04 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: livius
Frankly, I don’t want to feel pain from Obamacare. Put it off and use the time to kill it.

So much for your lives, your fortunes and your sacred honor, eh?

Putting it off just delays the pain. Until after the 2014 election, so we can have more ill informed voters re-electing Democrats based on promises.

No thank you. Let's see it.

47 posted on 09/26/2013 1:11:24 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: livius
Everybody in this country is scared of it and hates it, and the figures that have come out just today (even from Federal agencies) about the additional cost are terrifying.

I know. And anyone that was paying attention could predict it.

But, the kneepad media will only repeat platitudes from Obama and the Democrats, even as more information is coming out.

The disaster will only become obvious and unavoidable when it happens. And the low information voters that believed Obama will finally realized he has been lying to them all along.

When they have to buy insurance or pay the penalty, they will finally understand.

Sometimes you have to lose a battle to win the war.

48 posted on 09/26/2013 1:12:23 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: xzins

I posted on another thread a few minutes ago, regarding this issue.

I called my congresscritter’s office yesterday and told the young man who answered the phone to ask him to vote against Blackburn’s delay amendment, or get her to drop it altogether.

They should vote on defunding once again, but as a stand-alone bill. Get everyone on record now.

The young man said I was the first to call about the delay tactic coming up and that he would tell DesJarlais what I’d said. He read back what he’d written down during our conversation to make sure he had it correct, which he did.

This may be the route to go since we know Reid is going to put funding back into the current CR. I just don’t know that there’ll be enough votes in the Senate to stop it. grrrrr! So we need to work on the House to stop the delay tactic, which I believe is the wrong way to go. We don’t need to give the dems breathing room next year, and that’s what a delay will do. Like it or not, I have the sinking feeling we’re going to be clobbered with Obamacare. People are going to be hurting and furious and they’ll remember who voted to hit us with it when they go to the voting booth.


49 posted on 09/26/2013 1:13:04 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: xzins

bttt


50 posted on 09/26/2013 1:13:25 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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