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US, EU bungled Arab Spring strategy: study
AFP News ^ | September 25, 2013

Posted on 09/25/2013 7:18:13 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

"The United States and Europe have yet to show the requisite political will or to develop sustainable strategies to help Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and Yemen in their democratic transitions more than two years after a wave of popular revolutions toppled decades old autocracies," the report by the Atlantic Council's Rafik Hariri Center for the Middle East found.

"Faced with the vast amounts of cash the Gulf countries could provide rapidly to the transition countries, some in Washington and Brussels wondered if the United States and the EU even had much to offer," the study added.

The report's authors -- Danya Greenfield, Amy Hawthorne and Rosa Balfour -- said that in the past year "fatigue and frustration more than energy and hope" had characterized Washington and Europe's dealings with Arab Spring nations.

(Excerpt) Read more at france24.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabspring; eussr; failure; hillary; leadingfrombehind
Barry and Hillary leading from behind.
1 posted on 09/25/2013 7:18:13 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If we gave them our original constitution, and they wanted it to work, it couldn’t work.

Our Constitution is dependent on men of free will working together, with a common code of ethics specifically related to the Judeo Christian codes of conduct.

Good luck with that in Libya, Tunisia, Libya, and Yemen.

When George Bush talked about democracies, I actually thought it sounded great. Yep, it did. And then you start thinking about it, and realize what the players are like in that region.

Tell you what folks, Jesus Christ Himself couldn’t get people in that region to pull together. Now I know Obama is more important than Him to a lot of folks, but it won’t work.

We need to stay out of it. Let those areas melt down. That’s what they do. There’s nothing we can do about it. If one side wins in Syria, guess what. Six months later another group will pop up and demand change.


2 posted on 09/25/2013 7:28:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Democracy is vastly misunderstood and over-rated.

Don’t forget - In 2006 the Palestinians voted to give Hamas a majority of the seats in the Palestinian Parliament.

In a democratic election, if you have a majority comprised of idiots, the uninformed, the corrupt and the parasitic, you end up with people like Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton winning elections.


3 posted on 09/25/2013 7:30:25 PM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Democratic transitions”

BWAAAAHHHAAAAAHHHAAAAA!!!!

That article is a hoot!


4 posted on 09/25/2013 7:55:02 PM PDT by henkster (democrats will sacrifice the lives of our servicemen so 0bama doesn't look bad.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Democracy needs a certain amount of respect for your fellow citizen to work. For example, in Western countries, even though liberals drive us nuts, we don’t form armed squads to attack and kill them, and vice versa for (most) liberals - compare that with, say, Pakistan or a lot of Africa, places not known for real democracy.

Even Western European countries were fairly ruthless until the 1600s; it was the English Revolution that broke the absolute power of monarchs.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 8:10:10 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

I agree.


6 posted on 09/25/2013 8:28:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
When will people realize that the words "Arab Spring" constitute absolutely nothing, means absolutely nothing, in terms of a genuine political movement or strategy? The phrase means nothing because it is about nothing, about nothing that constitutes a genuine ability to progress, as a people, as a society, in form of self-government, about anything that characterizes a definable, real world objective or political goal.

The term "Arab Spring" goes only as far as that of mere poetic neologisms, a phenomena perpetuated by a media which it itself resides in self-delusional psychosis, with 'Arab Spring' merely a facade like some highway poster receding in the rear-view mirror as image of itself. There is nothing else because there is nothing else but a political abyss to otherwise maintain its political momentum beyond the chaos that projects the sense of public self-flagellation as something meaningful, that which lacks the cohesiveness present in genuine political movements.

The 'Arab Spring' is simply an inanimate reaction, a pavolvian spasm of public rage, civil disobedience akin to a chemical explosion or meteorological phenomena, a Level 5 Tornadic spasm, all Sturm Und Drang as an unfocused expression of public rage that once exhausted remains non-existent.

It is the real life inability of a primitive, un-evolved, unsophisticated culture mired in the distant past, a standard of living absent off the oil revenues is constituted by annual UN report as being that of fourth world standard of living with a 2% literacy rate, bereft of the innovation, technological impetus that drives the modern world further along into the future ,weighed down under ever increasing burdensome way of life, in their ever increasing struggle to overcome the very limitations of their own godforsaken destiny.

7 posted on 09/25/2013 9:30:54 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: lbryce

bttt excellent analysis.


8 posted on 09/25/2013 9:55:40 PM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: txhurl
Finally, a genius among the intellectually-challenged.

Thank you very much for your kind words.

After making my comments, I decided to post it on its own under general chat just a few moments ago only getting comments that seemed banal, derisive, beside the point.

9 posted on 09/25/2013 10:06:41 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst Is Yet To come)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
US, EU bungled Arab Spring strategy

Exactly what strategy would have been helpful with the Islamic Terrorists who were trying to overthrow dictatorships in the Arab world? Other than supporting the dictators, any other strategy would have been terrible. We just chose the exceptionally stupid option of supporting the terrorists and bombing the dictators.

10 posted on 09/26/2013 12:02:32 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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