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Public health groups back Obama’s 94-cent cigarette tax hike
The Hill ^ | September 25, 2013 | Ben Goad

Posted on 09/25/2013 11:56:35 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Why not %10.. To hell with it, just make a $10.00 per pack tax.. HELL YEA! /s

The black market on Cigs is coming soon and the new Mafia will be born.

41 posted on 09/25/2013 2:46:53 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: omega4179
Personally I hope they tax the crap out of cigs

I stopped smoking years ago, but I hope they come after your kids or grandchildren with all kinds of taxes. Maybe they're too fat. Maybe they play contact sports at school and are more of a risk to your obamacare exchange. I don't really care how they do it. Just don't come looking to current or former smokers for help when it's your turn.

42 posted on 09/25/2013 2:53:48 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: petitfour
Our children who have attended all day kindergarten were probably more hindered than helped by the waste of time.

Our daughter absolutely LOVED her all day kindergarten and would have preferred more reading time and less time on the playground or in the gym. She played soccer at the time, then went onto baseball and softball, street hockey and dance.

I was freaked out about the all day kindergarten, but my mother considered me lucky because she would have given anything for all day kindergarten when I started in 1965. Of course 2 years later she refused to put my brother in kindergarten because she wasn't ready for him to leave her. Not because HE wasn't ready for school, but because SHE wasn't ready for him to be in school. When he was 21 and accepted into the Police Academy she called me and demanded I come home (I lived in another state by then) to side with her and talk him out of it. It was Christmas and was going back anyway and she did everything but throw me out to make my stay miserable because I congratulated him and wished him good luck.

BTW, that all day kindergartener of mine is now in 10th grade, remains on the Honor Roll (usually with straight A's,) loves her dance, hunts with her dad and works the gardens with me. While I do believe kindergarten, full or half day, should be up to the parents and not the government, I totally disagree with your attitude it is a waste of time and a hindrance.

43 posted on 09/25/2013 3:02:32 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: MaxMax
The black market on Cigs is coming soon and the new Mafia will be born.

You are behind the times, by about a decade. There has been a black market for low or no taxed cigarettes for seemingly forever.

I live in Virginia, just 8 miles from the Maryland line, and see the out of state license plates in the tobacco outlets every day. For every Virginia plate in the parking llot there will be at least 10 from Maryland, and another dozen or so from NY, PA and NJ.

44 posted on 09/25/2013 3:07:25 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

Back in the 60s worked in an Ohio auto plant, the parking lot always had guys selling low tax Kentucky cigs out of their car trunks. And this was when the difference was literally pennies per pack.


45 posted on 09/25/2013 3:10:12 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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To: nascarnation

Not surprising!


46 posted on 09/25/2013 3:24:06 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

You’re right. It should be up to the parents. All children are different. I do not think there is added benefit to all day kindergarten other than the convenience for parents and school transportation departments.


47 posted on 09/25/2013 3:38:23 PM PDT by petitfour
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48 posted on 09/25/2013 5:12:30 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: petitfour
You’re right. It should be up to the parents. All children are different.

Exactly.

I do not think there is added benefit to all day kindergarten other than the convenience for parents and school transportation departments.

You just contradicted your previous statement. As you said, all children are different and my child did benefit from it, as I have already stated. Not all do or did, and that is obvious, but the ones who have parent(s) who looked it as a convenience are the ones that did not benefit - but they are also the ones who wouldn't benefit from the highest priced private education, either.

49 posted on 09/25/2013 5:16:50 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And the companies that actually produce the product sell it for what? $0.25 per pack?


50 posted on 09/25/2013 5:23:29 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Drango

What do you think we should do about these State and federal government programs and Leftists that are addicted to revenue from cigarette taxes?


51 posted on 09/25/2013 7:39:09 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Have you meet your weekly quota of recruiting new, under-age, addicts yet?


52 posted on 09/25/2013 7:56:11 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
How many of the chilluns would have benefited from that $4.9 million? (Insert tears here.)

"Government agents acting without authorization conducted dozens of undercover investigations of illegal tobacco sales, misused some of $162 million in profits from the stings and lost track of at least 420 million cigarettes, the Justice Department's inspector general said Wednesday.

In one case, agents for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives sold $15 million in cigarettes and later turned over $4.9 million in profits from the sales to a confidential informant — even though the agency did not properly account for the transaction."

ATF misplaced 420 million cigarettes in stings

53 posted on 09/26/2013 5:40:35 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: elkfersupper

I pay $0.40 /pack retail where I am.


54 posted on 09/26/2013 6:02:54 AM PDT by patton (“Really? Have you tried chewing cloves?”)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I used to have my cigarettes delivered by the USPS from an online Indian store every month. They made that illegal so I quit. My costs would have doubled.


55 posted on 09/26/2013 9:44:23 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It's 1914 all over again.

The Czar and his team of fancy-pants advisors realize that his jolly Muziks are always plastered and this could damage the war effort.

So, brilliant Czar that he was, he put a heavy, like very heavy, tax on Vodka. Unfortunately, talk about unintended consequences, it turned out that this was the government's (such as it was) major (read only) source of real revenue. No body could afford the taxed vodka, but they could sure slip over to Igor's still and buy some bootleg hooch, of which the Czar saw nary a ruble.

The rest, as Professor Peabody was wont to say to young Sherman, "was history." So if the nicotine fiends buy fewer and fewer cigarettes, where's the money for research and "the children" supposed to come from?

"Hey can I buy cigarettes with my EBT Card?"

56 posted on 09/27/2013 11:04:36 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( "Obama, The Movie" Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica! ")
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To: Drango

We all agree this shouldn’t be available to children. Just adults.

I don’t understand what you are babbling about.


57 posted on 10/02/2013 6:10:17 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Drango

Sorry, I thought this was the e-cigarette thread that you posted some other nonsense on. Sales of Real cigarettes have been banned to children for decades.


58 posted on 10/02/2013 7:42:47 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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