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Public health groups back Obama’s 94-cent cigarette tax hike
The Hill ^ | September 25, 2013 | Ben Goad

Posted on 09/25/2013 11:56:35 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

President Obama’s plan to raise the federal cigarette tax by 94 cents a pack would put 2 million low and middle-income kids through preschool, a new report has concluded.

Obama’s fiscal 2014 budget proposal calls for a near doubling of the tax, from $1.01 to $1.95 per pack, with the proceeds going toward an expansion of early childhood education. Taxes on other tobacco products would increase proportionally, bringing the estimated additional revenue to an estimated $78 billion over the next decade.

“Taken together, these two measures would help ensure a future of smart, healthy kids nationwide and in every state,” according to the report, released Wednesday by a coalition of nine public health and legal groups.

In the first year alone, almost 335,000 children from low and moderate-income families would gain access to high-quality preschool programs, the study found. By the 10th year, that number would rise to 2 million.

Less than half of the nation’s 4-year-olds are enrolled in public preschool programs, according to the study, which cites research showing that kids with access to early childhood education are more likely to go to college, be employed and live a healthy lifestyle.

At the same time, the groups contend that the higher tax would prevent 1.7 million kids from becoming addicted to cigarettes and, in the first year, prompt 1.57 million adult smokers to quit.

“This report should compel lawmakers to support the president’s proposal because it demonstrates the dramatic educational and health benefits children in every state would receive,” said Chris Hansen, president of the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network (ACS CAN).

But conservatives have criticized Obama’s plan, saying it amounts to a tax on middle-class Americans.

Formerly a smoker himself, Obama was overheard this week saying that he hadn’t had a cigarette in six years, citing health-conscious first lady Michelle Obama as the impetus for his quitting.


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1 posted on 09/25/2013 11:56:35 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

if the grass roots wanted to realy get some votes, they would work to cancel al the stupid taxes on cig - nobody care and the money does not go for healthcare or research


2 posted on 09/25/2013 11:58:04 AM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It’s for the chilluns, future sons of Obama.


3 posted on 09/25/2013 11:59:08 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Cigarette taxes are already so high they are causing many people to quit. Hence the funding for this new program will be self-terminating.

Won’t be long till they come back and hit us up with an income tax hike “for the children”.


4 posted on 09/25/2013 11:59:23 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...
“Taken together, these two measures would help ensure a future of smart, healthy kids nationwide and in every state,” according to the report, released Wednesday by a coalition of nine public health and legal groups.

Drango's Dragons ride again! Vincent DiMarco will be pleased.

Nanny State PING!

5 posted on 09/25/2013 11:59:29 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Didn’t they already hike tobacco taxes for the chilluns through SCHIP?


6 posted on 09/25/2013 11:59:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It’s for the chilluns, future sons of Obama.


7 posted on 09/25/2013 11:59:58 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Public health groups back Obama’s 94-cent cigarette tax hike

So does the growing black market in cigarettes smuggled in from China....

8 posted on 09/25/2013 12:00:23 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This rather begs a question -
since this will affect the EBT crowd disproportionately,
will they now allow cigs to be bought on EBT?


9 posted on 09/25/2013 12:01:34 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 09/25/2013 12:01:42 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If we are making the government dependent on revenue for cigarettes, doesn’t that incent them to keep people smoking?


11 posted on 09/25/2013 12:01:46 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
President Obama’s plan to raise the federal cigarette tax by 94 cents a pack would put 2 million low and middle-income kids through preschool, a new report has concluded.

From the NY Post

Cig-tax hike creates total drag on sales

ALBANY — Sales of taxed cigarettes have plummeted a staggering 27 percent statewide since the highest cigarette tax in the nation took hold in July, a Post analysis has found.

Law-abiding cigarette dealers have sold an average of 30 million packs of smokes in each of the last four months — some 11 million fewer than before Gov. Paterson and lawmakers raised the state tax on cigarettes to $4.35 a pack in a scramble to close a massive budget gap.

12 posted on 09/25/2013 12:02:24 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
They can't tax the tobacco I grow in my own back yard.

/johnny

13 posted on 09/25/2013 12:03:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Keep it up morons ... you’ll have turf wars in Compton to see who will control the black market trading.


14 posted on 09/25/2013 12:03:27 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: cripplecreek
Didn’t they already hike tobacco taxes for the chilluns through SCHIP?

LoL! Yep. One of the first laws Obama signed. I remember it because my next door neighbor who is a heavy smoker and voted for Obama because he bought the line that "we needed a change" was rather irate that the first thing Obama did was raise the price of his smokes. All I could do was laugh and remind him he got the "change" he voted for...

15 posted on 09/25/2013 12:03:33 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Where in the US Constitution does it give the president the power to tax? Forgive me, but did Congress actually write a law that surrendered this power to President Obama? I’m being serious. What’s the legal justification for him to do this?

(I know. I know. Laws are for schmucks these days, but sometimes it pays to at least give the appearance a president is following the law.)


16 posted on 09/25/2013 12:05:04 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: apillar

2300% increase in the tax on loose tobacco if I recall.


17 posted on 09/25/2013 12:05:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I'm no longer a smoker, but ours is supposedly a "free" nation. So my motto is ...

Grow your own and roll your own.

18 posted on 09/25/2013 12:06:41 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: kaehurowing

But if you prevent 1.7 million NEW smokers. Who will pay for the children after them? “QUIT SMOKING! BLEEP THE CHILDREN!” BTW, this is why they’re going crazy over E-Cigarettes.


19 posted on 09/25/2013 12:08:09 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BLACK MARKET

Nice job Barry...


20 posted on 09/25/2013 12:08:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Just started growing tobacco this year. I hope they pay more for the raw product.


21 posted on 09/25/2013 12:08:35 PM PDT by spincaster (Spincaster)
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To: apillar

apillar: “All I could do was laugh and remind him he got the “change” he voted for...”

Obamabots never learn. Sometimes I think the best thing that could happen to the country is to let the left create their brave new world. The Obamabots will be some of the first ones to suffer.


22 posted on 09/25/2013 12:09:54 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: OldNavyVet

Your street dealers will be switching over to untaxed tobacco just about the time pot becomes 100% legal.


23 posted on 09/25/2013 12:09:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: massgopguy

Is this the president’s budget that was illegally late and dead on arrival.


24 posted on 09/25/2013 12:10:07 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This Nazi crap isn’t about “public health”. This is all about the commie ‘RATS’ greed for MORE OF OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY!!!! If this bull**** was about “public health”, the commies would just ban tobacco as they are trying to do with guns.


25 posted on 09/25/2013 12:10:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Only Liberals could say:

Taxes don’t discourage consumption, but taxing cigarettes does, HOWEVER - these specific new taxes on cigarettes won’t effect use and we’ll bet our education system funding on it.

Talk about smoking something...


26 posted on 09/25/2013 12:10:50 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: apillar

He raised the tax on roll-your-tobacco by 2700% almost as soon as he took office.

Not many rich people roll their own, so that tax was totally directed at the poor.


27 posted on 09/25/2013 12:13:21 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why don’t the freeloading parents of the “2 million low and middle-income kids” pay to put their own “kids” through preschool? This is BS communism.


28 posted on 09/25/2013 12:13:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The time for impeachment has come.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
President Obama’s plan to raise the federal cigarette tax by 94 cents a pack would put 2 million low and middle-income kids through preschool...

No, it would not.

29 posted on 09/25/2013 12:14:12 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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30 posted on 09/25/2013 12:20:12 PM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is not an equitable tax as it will be a tax that targets groups that have the highest rates of smoking.

Those groups are minorities, the poor and the less educated.


31 posted on 09/25/2013 12:32:00 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: WayneS

There is no telling from how far up their asses these people pulled their numbers.


32 posted on 09/25/2013 12:35:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Personally I hope they tax the crap out of cigs. but politically it would reduce revenue so they should keep them where they are.


33 posted on 09/25/2013 12:39:00 PM PDT by omega4179
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Suckers.

PreSchool is not the place for the country’s crumb crunchers. All day kindergarten isn’t either. Our children who have attended all day kindergarten were probably more hindered than helped by the waste of time. Our half day kindergarteners were happy, rested, and given a lot more personal attention than our all day-ers. And the half day-ers were able to happily participate in sporting activities. Our all day-ers are too tired and want to skip practices. That is not a good thing.

But this administration is so full of evil that it does not surprise me that they want to take children into state controlled incompetence.


34 posted on 09/25/2013 12:41:00 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Taxation is what led to the American revolution, and many died thanks to military action taken by British authorities.

Let's hope that today's Tea Party patriots win in elections against tax happy politicians.

35 posted on 09/25/2013 12:46:15 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: omega4179

This is the problem with you people: you never seem to realize that these busybodies will eventually come after something that you like.


36 posted on 09/25/2013 12:46:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Major brain damage at UMES, but no property damage!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Exactly.

However far you might think it was, it was farther than that...


37 posted on 09/25/2013 12:47:59 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Smokers are already heavily subsidizing state education budgets and they are funding the SCHIP program! Smokers should be given medals and smoking should be encouraged! Think of the revenue that could be raised “for the children.”


38 posted on 09/25/2013 1:10:29 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: omega4179
Personally I hope they tax the crap out of cigs.

Personally, I hope they tax the crap out of something YOU enjoy.

but politically it would reduce revenue so they should keep them where they are.

WRONG - again. The taxes need to be cut by at least half and there will be an increase because the black market won't be quite so lucrative.

39 posted on 09/25/2013 2:30:48 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: kaehurowing

Its fo the chilluns to get them on the gov’t tit as early as possible -—pre-school with free breakfast lunch dinner for alls!


40 posted on 09/25/2013 2:33:05 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Why not %10.. To hell with it, just make a $10.00 per pack tax.. HELL YEA! /s

The black market on Cigs is coming soon and the new Mafia will be born.

41 posted on 09/25/2013 2:46:53 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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Personally I hope they tax the crap out of cigs

I stopped smoking years ago, but I hope they come after your kids or grandchildren with all kinds of taxes. Maybe they're too fat. Maybe they play contact sports at school and are more of a risk to your obamacare exchange. I don't really care how they do it. Just don't come looking to current or former smokers for help when it's your turn.

42 posted on 09/25/2013 2:53:48 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: petitfour
Our children who have attended all day kindergarten were probably more hindered than helped by the waste of time.

Our daughter absolutely LOVED her all day kindergarten and would have preferred more reading time and less time on the playground or in the gym. She played soccer at the time, then went onto baseball and softball, street hockey and dance.

I was freaked out about the all day kindergarten, but my mother considered me lucky because she would have given anything for all day kindergarten when I started in 1965. Of course 2 years later she refused to put my brother in kindergarten because she wasn't ready for him to leave her. Not because HE wasn't ready for school, but because SHE wasn't ready for him to be in school. When he was 21 and accepted into the Police Academy she called me and demanded I come home (I lived in another state by then) to side with her and talk him out of it. It was Christmas and was going back anyway and she did everything but throw me out to make my stay miserable because I congratulated him and wished him good luck.

BTW, that all day kindergartener of mine is now in 10th grade, remains on the Honor Roll (usually with straight A's,) loves her dance, hunts with her dad and works the gardens with me. While I do believe kindergarten, full or half day, should be up to the parents and not the government, I totally disagree with your attitude it is a waste of time and a hindrance.

43 posted on 09/25/2013 3:02:32 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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The black market on Cigs is coming soon and the new Mafia will be born.

You are behind the times, by about a decade. There has been a black market for low or no taxed cigarettes for seemingly forever.

I live in Virginia, just 8 miles from the Maryland line, and see the out of state license plates in the tobacco outlets every day. For every Virginia plate in the parking llot there will be at least 10 from Maryland, and another dozen or so from NY, PA and NJ.

44 posted on 09/25/2013 3:07:25 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

Back in the 60s worked in an Ohio auto plant, the parking lot always had guys selling low tax Kentucky cigs out of their car trunks. And this was when the difference was literally pennies per pack.


45 posted on 09/25/2013 3:10:12 PM PDT by nascarnation (Democrats control the Presidency, Senate, and Media. It's an uphill climb....)
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Not surprising!


46 posted on 09/25/2013 3:24:06 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

You’re right. It should be up to the parents. All children are different. I do not think there is added benefit to all day kindergarten other than the convenience for parents and school transportation departments.


47 posted on 09/25/2013 3:38:23 PM PDT by petitfour
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48 posted on 09/25/2013 5:12:30 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: petitfour
You’re right. It should be up to the parents. All children are different.

Exactly.

I do not think there is added benefit to all day kindergarten other than the convenience for parents and school transportation departments.

You just contradicted your previous statement. As you said, all children are different and my child did benefit from it, as I have already stated. Not all do or did, and that is obvious, but the ones who have parent(s) who looked it as a convenience are the ones that did not benefit - but they are also the ones who wouldn't benefit from the highest priced private education, either.

49 posted on 09/25/2013 5:16:50 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And the companies that actually produce the product sell it for what? $0.25 per pack?


50 posted on 09/25/2013 5:23:29 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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