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Prices Set for New Health-Care Exchanges (Up, up and away!)
wall street journal ^ | 9/25/2013 | By LOUISE RADNOFSKY

Posted on 09/25/2013 8:20:26 AM PDT by tobyhill

U.S. officials for the first time disclosed insurance prices that will be offered through new federally run health-care exchanges starting Oct. 1, showing that young, healthy buyers likely will pay more than they do currently while older, sicker consumers should get a break.

The plans, offered under the health-care overhaul to people who don't get insurance through an employer or government program, in many cases provide broader coverage than current policies.

Costs will vary widely from state to state and for different types of consumers. Government subsidies will cut costs for some lower-income consumers.

Across the country, the average premium for a 27-year-old nonsmoker, regardless of gender, will start at $163 a month for the lowest-cost "bronze" plan; $203 for the "silver" plan, which provides more benefits than bronze; and $240 for the more-comprehensive "gold" plan.

But for some buyers, prices will rise from today's less-comprehensive policies. In Nashville, Tenn., a 27-year-old male nonsmoker could pay as little as $41 a month now for a bare-bones policy, but would pay $114 a month for the lowest-cost bronze option in the new federal health exchanges.

Likewise, the least-expensive bronze policy would rise to $195 a month in Philadelphia for that same 27-year-old, from $73 today. In Cheyenne, Wyo., the lowest-cost option would be $271 a month, up from $82 today.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; healthexchanges; healthinsurance; nowyouknowwhatsinit; obama; obamacare
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1 posted on 09/25/2013 8:20:26 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

But that can’t be! The talking heads are all saying prices are coming down!


2 posted on 09/25/2013 8:23:53 AM PDT by Gamecock (Many Atheists take the stand: "There is no God AND I hate Him.")
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To: tobyhill

Ted Cruz needs to stop calling them Private Exchanges. How can something forced on us by the federal government be considered “private”?


3 posted on 09/25/2013 8:26:22 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: tobyhill

What type of hospice is available? At my age and medical condition, that’s really important to me.


4 posted on 09/25/2013 8:26:22 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: tobyhill

Bronze plan has a 40% copay. Better hope to not get sick or injured.


5 posted on 09/25/2013 8:36:32 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: GeronL

Are you sure that’s what he meant? Private exchanges normally cater to corporate customers. Being set up now...


6 posted on 09/25/2013 8:42:13 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: tips up
Doctors will require pay up front and when the dumb-asses realize their bill is $200 to see the doctor then they will complain that the Bronze Plan doesn't cover crap. They will then look at the “Silver” Plan and realize that it cost twice as much.
7 posted on 09/25/2013 8:43:50 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: steve86

I dunno, anyone got a transcript?

lol


8 posted on 09/25/2013 8:46:37 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: tobyhill
...young, healthy buyers likely will pay more than they do currently while older, sicker consumers should get a break...

Great, the demographic that has the lion's share of the money in this country gets another break.

9 posted on 09/25/2013 8:48:47 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

You would have to look into each individual plan offered in your state to answer that. Except for the (barf) minimal required benefits, it is up to the insurer what to offer. But I’d expect what you will find would be comparable to pre-Obamacare plans.


10 posted on 09/25/2013 8:49:40 AM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: tobyhill

If many or most of healthy younger types don’t sign up, opting for the fine; and most with preexisting conditions do sign up, are the insurance carriers going to absorb the losses or the taxpayer?

Does the term “adverse selection” exist anymore? I suppose we can’t talk about that or the government subsidizing those who lie about their income, which can’t be verified. The Feds gather tons of data and somehow can’t determine how much you earned last year?


11 posted on 09/25/2013 9:06:01 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: DeFault User

So, just so I am clear about this.

These “Fees”, monthly premiums are actually a “TAX” ?.

A tax that varies based on your age, gender, income, state, smoking status etc ??


12 posted on 09/25/2013 9:16:16 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta

lol.

It’s not based on real actuarial tables-markets, that is for sure.


13 posted on 09/25/2013 9:18:31 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: tobyhill

These prices will only continue to raise-these are only “estimates” from government bureaucrats..

When have you ever known government bureaucrats to be correct, especially of a law that their master wants, but the rest of us don’t.

(This is only the “good” propaganda). The truth will be far worse..


14 posted on 09/25/2013 9:24:48 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: Gamecock

114 a month when you’re working a 29 hour week at minimum wage is one eighth of your monthly gross. Add that to housing, utilities, transportation, fuel, insurance, communication, and cable, and that leaves how much for eating, clothing, and entertainment?


15 posted on 09/25/2013 9:26:15 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: GeronL
Its bases on Socialism and politics..the freebies want it for free and will get it...the sick will get it for cheap...and the young and healthy will pay for it..problem is..they will not sign up...so the Obamacare will lose trillions and the quality of care will drop dramatically...to a third world status....a cut on your finger..will be fixed...a cancer and you are toast...no treatment or very bad treatment....
16 posted on 09/25/2013 9:29:01 AM PDT by Youngman542012
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To: tobyhill

I for one think it refreshing that the young healthy Obama voters should carry the costs of healthcare for the elderly sick and poor

isn’t this why they think of themselves as democrats?

walk the walk!


17 posted on 09/25/2013 9:29:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: GeronL

It will be interesting to see if the young healthy Liberal/Progressive 0bama voter will put up with this scheme.

I just can’t see these “selfish”, so-called “Caring”, zombies sleeping through this hit to their paycheck for the benefit of the low-income elderly.

Logically (for a liberal), they may take the hit while promoting euthanasia (death panels) but should then (logically) support a ban abortion.

I know logic is not their strong suit, but when push comes to shove, there’s no telling what they will do.


18 posted on 09/25/2013 9:38:48 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: silverleaf

I had the same thought.


19 posted on 09/25/2013 9:40:04 AM PDT by Zeneta
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To: tobyhill

And they will blame the “greedy doctors”...


20 posted on 09/25/2013 9:40:28 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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