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E.W. Jackson says non-Christians are engaged in ‘some sort of false religion’
The Washington Post ^ | 9/23/13 | Michael Laris

Posted on 09/23/2013 2:38:42 PM PDT by shego

At a morning sermon Sunday in Northern Virginia, Republican lieutenant governor candidate E.W. Jackson, a Chesapeake pastor, said people who don’t follow Jesus Christ “are engaged in some sort of false religion.”

Jackson offered that view while describing a list of the “controversial” things he believes, and that must be said, as a Christian....

It is not the first time Jackson has weighed in with controversial comments on questions of faith and social issues. He has also said that gay people’s “minds are perverted. They are frankly very sick people psychologically and mentally and emotionally.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: christians; ewjackson; pagans; prejudice; religion; va2013
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1 posted on 09/23/2013 2:38:43 PM PDT by shego
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To: shego

looking for something to disagree with, but can’t come up with anything yet...


2 posted on 09/23/2013 2:41:25 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: shego
He has also said that gay people’s “minds are perverted. They are frankly very sick people psychologically and mentally and emotionally.”...

The comment about Christianity probably wasn't helpful but what he said about perverts should have also included the observation that they're *morally* sick.

3 posted on 09/23/2013 2:42:48 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: shego

And?


4 posted on 09/23/2013 2:44:32 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt (A sinner can't pay for grace that's free, nor add to work that's complete.)
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To: shego

Most adherents to one religion consider other religions to be false.

Why would anyone consider that newsworthy?


5 posted on 09/23/2013 2:44:54 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos...)
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To: shego

And we wonder why Jews don’t vote for conservatives


6 posted on 09/23/2013 2:44:56 PM PDT by wrcase
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To: shego

So what’s the problem? Lots of people are serving lesser gods including Satan.

Some of them are stark raving moon barking child rapist, murders, They even claim they are a religion of peace when all they do is lust for bloodshed and prepubescent boys.

Mohammed servant of Satan!


7 posted on 09/23/2013 2:46:25 PM PDT by Southern by Grace (kickbacks, bribes, maifia payoffs is how the D's get R' done!)
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To: wrcase

This is not why. Lots of Jews are liberal.


8 posted on 09/23/2013 2:46:54 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: shego

Now Lao Tse says.......


9 posted on 09/23/2013 2:50:00 PM PDT by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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To: Olog-hai

Not all of them are. Doesn’t really help in persuading them to become conservative does it.


10 posted on 09/23/2013 2:51:06 PM PDT by wrcase
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To: shego

Well, I understand his viewpoint; it’s basic Christian theology, and I don’t care that such is his belief. It’s nothing new.

To the extent he ceases to be a faithful representative to persons who don’t share his theology because of his theology or choses to use his power as a (potential) elected official, however, there is an issue.


11 posted on 09/23/2013 2:51:55 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: wrcase

The overtly preachy are trying, yes.


12 posted on 09/23/2013 2:52:29 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: shego

Why is this controversial. EVERY sincere person of EVERY religion will say the same thing.


13 posted on 09/23/2013 2:52:37 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: shego

the religion is called HOPEYCHANGEY..


14 posted on 09/23/2013 2:52:48 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Olog-hai

Lots of Jewish people are liberal.

A lot more would be conservative, if “being conservative” wasn’t so easily conflated with “covert or die” Christianity of near history.


15 posted on 09/23/2013 2:53:57 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: shego

Dumb a$$ thing to say now the compost is going to use it to make hay.


16 posted on 09/23/2013 2:54:41 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: Jewbacca

I don’t see that US conservatives (the real ones) ever engaged in that kind of behavior. The Americans that did were typically voters of the Democrat Party, remember.


17 posted on 09/23/2013 2:55:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; Jewbacca

Also, take a look at Israel. A great deal of the same type of liberal Jews I speak of are engaged in the suicidal notion of “land for peace”, thinking that the “Palestinians” are ever going to stand for the continued existence of the Jewish state. In the USA, voting for a party that dares to remove God from its platform certainly will not show one’s Jewishness.


18 posted on 09/23/2013 2:57:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: shego

Well, duh.


19 posted on 09/23/2013 2:57:15 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: amnestynone

This will now be hung around the neck of every conservative candidate.


20 posted on 09/23/2013 2:59:49 PM PDT by wrcase
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To: Olog-hai

Liberal and socialists.


21 posted on 09/23/2013 3:09:12 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: shego
He’s right.

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

John 14:6

22 posted on 09/23/2013 3:12:41 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: wrcase

Jews consider Christianity a false religion.


23 posted on 09/23/2013 3:13:41 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: GilesB

“Jews consider Christianity a false religion.”

Actually, they don’t.


24 posted on 09/23/2013 3:15:12 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: shego

Jews are not engaged in false religion...he’s wrong on that point.

Correct about the homosexual...scripture says they are given over to depraved minds.


25 posted on 09/23/2013 3:17:14 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Jewbacca

He was preaching a Sunday sermon...

Would you ask that he not be “overtly preachy” in that context?

Would it help if he just quit the pulpit?


26 posted on 09/23/2013 3:17:15 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: shego
… according to a recording of the sermon by a Democratic tracker.
Funny that the ComPost did not feature the alleged “recording” on their website.
27 posted on 09/23/2013 3:18:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Jewbacca

Please offer some examples of “convert or die” Christianity - and how would such a thing be remotely related to being conservative?

I am genuinely puzzled.


28 posted on 09/23/2013 3:19:16 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: shego
A must watch:
Video - E.W. Jackson's Convention Speech - May 18th, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGD6O283ipo

 


29 posted on 09/23/2013 3:20:01 PM PDT by preacher (I am not a global warming hoax denier.)
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To: wrcase

I may be wrong, but I doubt that is the issue.


30 posted on 09/23/2013 3:21:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jewbacca

For at least the last hundred years, the convert or die method of evangelism has only been used by Muslims,taoists, and atheists.


31 posted on 09/23/2013 3:22:33 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Ohhhh - let’s examine that.

Jesus came declaring he was the Messiah.
Jews say the Messiah is yet to come.

The Jews believe the very premise of Christianity is false.

How can a religion built on a false premise not be considered false?


32 posted on 09/23/2013 3:22:34 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: GilesB

“Please offer some examples of “convert or die” Christianity”

Basically the last 2000 years of history, the last 75 or so in the USA being the bear lone (and wonderful) exception.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_antisemitism


33 posted on 09/23/2013 3:28:01 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: GilesB

I have no problem, personally, with his theological perspective. It’s Christianity 101, and to be expected.

The problem, however, is he is also Republican lieutenant governor candidate who happens to be a preacher and fits the false belief so unfortunately common in Jewish circles that “conservatism” and “Judaism” are mutually exclusive.


34 posted on 09/23/2013 3:30:55 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Do you say that Jews are not engaged in a false religion from a Christian viewpoint? Or are you asserting the Jewish viewpoint? From a Christian viewpoint, the Jewish religion, as practiced, is false. You cannot expect a Christian pastor to preach from other than a Christian viewpoint - if he does, he is wrong.

Christian theology asserts that Christ is the Messiah.
Christian theology asserts that the Old Testament points to the birth, life, death and resurrection of Christ as Savior and Messiah.
Jews reject the foundational belief of Christianity as false - and continue to worship God as if the Messiah has not yet come.

If my religion says Christ is the Messiah, the risen Lord and your religion says He is not, then at least one of them is wrong, or false.


35 posted on 09/23/2013 3:33:15 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: freedomfiter2

Well, and evangelical Christians who happpend to also be Nazis (of which there were plenty).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reich_Church


36 posted on 09/23/2013 3:33:26 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: GilesB

I thought we were supposed to be “incomplete” not false.


37 posted on 09/23/2013 3:34:24 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: wrcase

True conservatives don’t pander. The truth is what it is and we don’t sugarcoat the facts to spare other people’s feelings. If they were interested in the truth, they would support conservative candidates.


38 posted on 09/23/2013 3:36:48 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: max americana; All
"the religion is called HOPEYCHANGEY.."


39 posted on 09/23/2013 3:38:27 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Jewbacca

Are you saying that Jews commonly practice fallacious reasoning:
A Republican is a Christian - therefore Republicans are anti-Judaism.
There is no logic in your fears. Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton and Calypso Louis are all open anti-Semites and Democrats. I know of no openly anti-Semitic Republicans.

The KKK was almost exclusively democrats.

Are you saying that most Jews are ignorant, or just illogical?

Should Republicans just dumb down, lie, or exclude Christians from the party, or from seeking office?


40 posted on 09/23/2013 3:39:10 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Sioux-san
looking for something to disagree with, but can’t come up with anything yet...

I have a number of Jewish friends who might find his comments a bit insulting.

41 posted on 09/23/2013 3:41:12 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Olog-hai
This is not why. Lots of Jews are liberal.

And Jackson seems hell-bent on keeping them there.

42 posted on 09/23/2013 3:42:45 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Jewbacca

That cite was basically an unsupported rant.

E.g. - the assertion of early Christians misunderstanding of the Jewish faith - The apostles were all of the Jewish faith, and Paul, the apostle formerly known as Saul, was a devout Jew and a religious scholar before conversion.

I know of no Jewish persecution promoted by or through Christianity. There is nothing in the Christian scriptures to promote Jewish persecution.


43 posted on 09/23/2013 3:46:11 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Jewbacca

If you say x = 5, and I say x = 37, at least one assertion is false. Simple logic. It does not suffice to say that one of them is “incomplete”.


44 posted on 09/23/2013 3:49:41 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Jewbacca

As a Catholic, I was taught that the Jews were the Chosen People. Jesus and his Apostles and followers were Jews. I don’t understand antisemitism.


45 posted on 09/23/2013 3:51:41 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Of course they would be insulted. But, it doesn’t mean he is wrong if you really believe in the words of Jesus Christ:
“I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me...”


46 posted on 09/23/2013 3:51:59 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Jewbacca

For some reason the idea that Christians are monsters has occupied traditional Jewish thought for centuries.

It’s the traditional Jewish allergy to Christian theology which has, I must conclude, produced the very selective attention that traditional Jewish thought has paid to Christian affairs. Christians doing what Jesus Christ actually said to do to Jews and to all mankind, i.e. lavish love upon them, get dropped in the memory hole in traditional Jewish history. But pogroms, which needless to say are intensely disobedient to the New Testament, are never forgotten.

Part of it could also be that Christians actually being Christians, showing the gospel agape love, have steered Jews into being Christians too, and those Jews no longer speak ill of Christian faith. Whoever was left, those are the people who carried on the accounts of who Christians were.

The gospel is real and its blessings are real. The gospel is a stumbling block to Jews because it proclaims that God is more than Jews envisioned Him to be.


47 posted on 09/23/2013 3:52:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: GilesB

My point was in my very first post. Go re-read it.


48 posted on 09/23/2013 3:57:48 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: trisham

Sin and evil are the causes of ungodly hatred towards people in this fallen world. Whether those people are Jews or whether they are Eskimos or whomever.

FWIW. The promise of God upon the Jewish people to destine them to an important and honorable role in the future attracts a lot of demonic opposition to them. This opposition is limited because God limits it (due to His promise He will never destroy the literal Jewish people) but it is very much present. God wants every Christian who is thus tempted by the devil to join in such opposition to get right back in the devil’s face and tell that devil to go back to the hell from where he came. (One proof of a devout Christian is that he or she WILL resist such temptations.) God loves Jews too.


49 posted on 09/23/2013 4:00:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Jewbacca

Would a few examples of Jewish corroborators suffice to condemn the Jewish religion as Nazis and anti-Semitic?

I know nothing of the church you cited - but in the same citation is the statement that other Protestant churches formed in opposition - which proves that siding with the Nazis was NOT a characteristic of Christianity, but rather, a characteristic of some people - which is not surprising. Nazis were, obviously, people.

It is illogical to reach a general conclusion about any group based on common traits observed in a very small sample set - especially if you choose to ignore contrary examples from the larger group.

The members of the church you cited were also German. Should we conclude that one must live in Germany if they are Christian? No less logical than assuming one is a Jew-hater if they are a Christian.


50 posted on 09/23/2013 4:00:16 PM PDT by GilesB
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