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Navy Yard: Swat team 'stood down' at mass shooting scene
The BBC ^ | Wednesday, September 18, 2013

Posted on 09/18/2013 11:00:32 AM PDT by kristinn

A tactical response team of the Capitol Police, a force that guards the US Capitol complex, was told to leave the scene by a supervisor instead of aiding municipal officers.

The Capitol Police department said senior officials were investigating.

Aaron Alexis, 34, killed 12 people at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday.

"I don't think it's a far stretch to say that some lives may have been saved if we were allowed to intervene," a Capitol Police source familiar with the incident told the BBC.

A former Navy reservist, Alexis was working as a technical contractor for the Navy and had a valid pass and security clearance allowing him entry to the highly secure building in south-east Washington DC.

He entered the building about 8:15 local time (12:15 GMT) and opened fire. He was later killed by police who stormed the building.

But multiple sources in the Capitol Police department have told the BBC that its highly trained and heavily armed four-man Containment and Emergency Response Team (Cert) was near the Navy Yard when the initial report of an active shooter came in about 8:20 local time.

The officers, wearing full tactical gear and armed with HK-416 assault weapons, arrived outside Building 197 a few minutes later, an official with knowledge of the incident told the BBC.

According to a Capitol Police source, an officer with the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD), Washington DC's main municipal force, told the Capitol Cert officers they were the only police on the site equipped with long guns and requested their assistance in searching for the gunman.

When the Capitol Police team radioed in to their superiors, they were told by a watch commander to leave the scene, the BBC was told.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aaronalexis; alexis; banglist; bruceleshan; capitolpolice; leo; navyyard; navyyardshooting; swat; washingtonnavyyard; wusa
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1 posted on 09/18/2013 11:00:33 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Valerie or David?


2 posted on 09/18/2013 11:02:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: kristinn

Obama needed a disaster so he could implement gun control by execturive order

stock up on ammo

look on youtube for ways to have underground storage (PVC pipe)


3 posted on 09/18/2013 11:02:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: kristinn

Again, we get our real news from the UK.


4 posted on 09/18/2013 11:03:47 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: kristinn

The Pentagon helps al Qaeda.

The DO”J” weaponizes narcoterrorists and
defends terrorists with every ounce of taxpayer $$$$.

The borders are left deliberately open.

20,000 criminal illegal felons are set free.

The NSA ignores the Boston Terrorists and the TSA
ignores they have no passport.

The State Dept covers up the Benghazi Atrocities.

And now SWAT is told to stand down while the USN
is disarmed and (like with Hasan) SLAUGHTERED.

This is NOT coincidence.


5 posted on 09/18/2013 11:04:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

Man, you know it!


6 posted on 09/18/2013 11:06:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: kristinn

Benghazi stand down equivalent.

Let Servicemen die.


7 posted on 09/18/2013 11:07:04 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Why haven't we heard from the 30 Benghazi survivors?)
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To: Diogenesis

Agree.


8 posted on 09/18/2013 11:07:44 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

or rahm a lahma dingdong


9 posted on 09/18/2013 11:08:52 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: kristinn

Just when you think things could not be anymore f’d up.


10 posted on 09/18/2013 11:09:56 AM PDT by Gorilla44
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To: kristinn

Highly secure Building ?? RIIIIIGHT. No magnetometer. No X-ray machine. 1-2 rentacops.

Of course, it was less than 200 yards from the Marine Barracks at 8th and I. . . .which ALWAYS has a Ready Squad on alert, but were THEY called for an attack on a Naval Headquarters ????

For that matter, the building was full of senior Naval Officers, NCOs, and experienced veterans. And they ALL either “sheltered in place” or ran from the scene. And that’s the REAL shame: I thought our Armed Forces personnel were supposed to run TO the sound of the guns, and take a little initiative. . .


11 posted on 09/18/2013 11:10:18 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: Mr. K

Man and I was just getting so I had the money to buy some more stuff, now the price will go back up.


12 posted on 09/18/2013 11:10:47 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: kristinn

The kakistocracy at work.

Thanks to the Brit media: doing the jobs American jourbalists won’t do.


13 posted on 09/18/2013 11:12:22 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Salgak
Maybe if Clinton hadn’t disarmed them they would have run to the fire.

(and Bush, and Obama, because they let the standing orders remain in effect)

15 posted on 09/18/2013 11:13:13 AM PDT by garyb
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To: kristinn

“...The officer described a culture in which emergency responders are instructed to not extend themselves beyond the Capitol grounds for fear of discipline.

“They were relying on our command staff to make the right call,” another Capitol Police officer said. “Unfortunately I don’t think that happened in this case.”

Most unfortunate, however there is the possibility they were using caution in case the shooter was hypothetically supposed to be distracting the attentions of the Capitol Swat Team to provide cover for an assault on the Capitol. It’s a distinct possibility. Not all government is Keystone Cops.


16 posted on 09/18/2013 11:15:20 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: kristinn

The STUPID is getting stronger everyday in DC and it’s spreading too!


17 posted on 09/18/2013 11:15:22 AM PDT by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until at least January 2017.)
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To: Diogenesis

Makes you wonder if some alphabet dept. knew about Boston but were told to stand down. Too much standing down for US citizens under this admin.


18 posted on 09/18/2013 11:16:32 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Salgak
And that’s the REAL shame: I thought our Armed Forces personnel were supposed to run TO the sound of the guns, and take a little initiative. . .

I don't think "suicide" is a standing order. But your point is well taken. I fail to see how making military bases "free fire" zones is a good thing. In my better world, the officers would have been armed, and running TO the sound of gunfire.

19 posted on 09/18/2013 11:16:51 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: kristinn

There we go. More proof that the government let this happen.


20 posted on 09/18/2013 11:17:01 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: kristinn; Travis McGee

different sort of cross border authority denied ...


21 posted on 09/18/2013 11:18:06 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: kristinn

Why sing to the Beebs?

Nobody lamestream here will accept their side of the story?


23 posted on 09/18/2013 11:19:19 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: kristinn

Whoever gave the stand down order needs to be charged with accessory to murder.


24 posted on 09/18/2013 11:19:41 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: rockinqsranch

This team was described as a 4 man QRF. If taking them (just four of them) to the Navy Yard exposed the Capitol to frontal assault, then their ops plan SUCKED.


25 posted on 09/18/2013 11:19:55 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: kristinn

I want to puke. Trained guys already geared up are turned away? It is an insane world we live in.


26 posted on 09/18/2013 11:20:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: kristinn

bump


27 posted on 09/18/2013 11:21:03 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: kristinn

No dogs to shoot —OF COURSE.

No middle-class front doors to kick down, either.

Good thing we’re giving all those chair ninjyas all that black nomex KOOK GEAR, right?

I see they’re putting it to GREAT USE.


28 posted on 09/18/2013 11:21:06 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: kristinn

We have SEVENTY THREE federal agencies that have some or many armed SWAT kooks —it’s no longer Fibbers and BatPhuck guys, anymore.

Library of Congress SWAT, Dept. of Education SWAT, EPA SWAT, yessiree, it’s truly a SWAT-o-rama, out there.

Gloves, and vests, and MP-5’s, and all this “hi-speed”, expensive, stupid stuff that’s super cool to PLAY AROUND WITH.

But permit defense of a military base in our CAPITOL city during a real shooting spree?

Oh no..! That would be super SCARY, yes.

More likely —somebody politically-minded in command heard the 3-round bursts, and knowing that GayMuzzie wanted some more gun-control he ordered them to stay put FOR POLITICAL REASONS.

THAT is what I think.


29 posted on 09/18/2013 11:30:16 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: All
Washington, D.C. TV station WUSA-9 broke this story two hours before the BBC:

WUSA9has learned that a Capitol Police tactical team was prepared to enter the Navy Yard to stop Aaron Alexis -- and was ordered back to the Capitol by a watch commander.

The team was in contact with Metropolitan Police, who were pleading for help, but was turned around by a Capitol Police inspector.

Two MPD officers went in without the team, and one of the officers was shot.

30 posted on 09/18/2013 11:33:29 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: kristinn

Coming from the White House, the order to ‘stand down’ is common, so it seems.


31 posted on 09/18/2013 11:33:42 AM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: kristinn

The “watch commander” afraid of stepping on some one else’s toes?


32 posted on 09/18/2013 11:34:10 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rock

Paper

Scissors

Lizard

Spock

33 posted on 09/18/2013 11:34:19 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: kristinn
This has been an on going fight forever. I was in DC in twenty years ago and they were talking about this.

I was staying at the Capital Hilton at the time. A DC cop came in. One of the embassies had just been robbed. The DC cops were told to "leave".

34 posted on 09/18/2013 11:34:36 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: kristinn

Talk about knowing nothing at this point. Did he act alone? How many shooters? Was their video surveillance footage? If the second is at large, why no APB and description?

Talk about locking it down.


35 posted on 09/18/2013 11:35:38 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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“When the Capitol Police team radioed in to their superiors, they were told by a watch commander to leave the scene, the BBC was told.”

Looks like we have the next Benghazi-Gate here.


36 posted on 09/18/2013 11:36:02 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Seen any scandal headlines lately?)
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To: kristinn

what? What would be gained by doing such a thing?


37 posted on 09/18/2013 11:37:05 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: kristinn

Why weren’t the military armed?
Armed means having the weapons AND AMMO.
The marines had rifles but no ammo.
Even Barney Fife was allowed to carry one bullet in his pocket.


38 posted on 09/18/2013 11:40:35 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: kristinn
Benghazi Part II
39 posted on 09/18/2013 11:44:07 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kristinn

a la Benghazi?? - “stand down!!!”


40 posted on 09/18/2013 11:50:55 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: kristinn

bump


41 posted on 09/18/2013 11:51:46 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: kristinn

They were ready to roll, but then someone told them there were no dogs in the Naval Yard for them to shoot.


42 posted on 09/18/2013 11:55:26 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: kristinn
We need names and chain of command on this decision.

Sounds too much like Benghazi and I don't wear a tin foil hat.

43 posted on 09/18/2013 12:02:07 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz......Nuff said.)
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To: kristinn; All

Kind of reminds of when the FBI was called off the Fort Marcy Park/Vince Foster homicide. And the case was handed to the grossly incompetent, politically attached, government hand out recipient, Park Police.

Though, with a much higher steroid rate. And no doubt, directed by Valerie Jarrett.


44 posted on 09/18/2013 12:03:57 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: kristinn

CIA op in progress ... wonder how many of those killed knew anything about Benghazi.


45 posted on 09/18/2013 12:07:59 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: kristinn
"....Two MPD officers went in without the team, and one of the officers was shot....."

Just in case anyone missed it the first time...

46 posted on 09/18/2013 12:09:30 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: kristinn

Why on earth?


47 posted on 09/18/2013 12:10:08 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: kristinn




This Message Not Approved by the NSA



48 posted on 09/18/2013 12:10:32 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Diogenesis; All

This is clearly “not a coincidence.” Here’s a post from earlier today by FReeper
Responsibility2d

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3068218/posts?q=1&;page=41

which shows that, of the 12 mass shooting incidents that occurred since 1949, 5 (nearly 42%) occurred under the Mahdi, starting in 2009 and going through 2013. Combine that with the hundreds of people killed with “Fast and Furious” weapons walked across the border and deliberately supplied to the Mexican drug cartels to kill people and create mayhem to promote destruction of the Second Amendment, and it’s clear we have a criminal, homicidal regime that’s out to promote and facilitate these atrocities so it can destroy the Constitution.

Indeed, IMHO, the NSA data gathering comes into this because it enables the regime to scan social media and chat rooms to find unstable individuals who might be inclined to perpetrate these horrors and develop them into genuine, effective mass murderers.


49 posted on 09/18/2013 12:11:23 PM PDT by libstripper (] ws)
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To: Rennes Templar

“Looks like we have the next Benghazi-Gate here.”

Yup. Looks that way.


50 posted on 09/18/2013 12:12:24 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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