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Putin hits a nerve with jibe at U.S. belief in its special status
National Post ^ | September 13, 2013 | Kelly McParlan

Posted on 09/15/2013 7:36:34 AM PDT by rickmichaels

As if it didn’t have enough problems on its hands, the U.S. now finds itself in a debate over one of the unchallenged notions of U.S. national consciousness. The argument was set off by Russian President Vladimir Putin, who clearly knows what buttons to press to quickly get Americans riled up. Button number one is American “exceptionalism, the notion that the U.S., based on its values and history, occupies a unique place in the world.

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1 posted on 09/15/2013 7:36:34 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

Debate? Bite me.


2 posted on 09/15/2013 7:43:13 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: rickmichaels

Putin has a point. We’re not so special anymore. Just another socialist welfare state.


3 posted on 09/15/2013 7:44:27 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: rickmichaels


4 posted on 09/15/2013 7:47:03 AM PDT by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don’t need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: saganite
Putin has a point. We’re not so special anymore. Just another socialist welfare state.

On this Putin is right. We used to be special. Now, we're kinda like a washed up professional athlete who can't pay their bills.

5 posted on 09/15/2013 7:48:52 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: rickmichaels

If the imposter wasn’t such an effeminate spineless clumsy pathetically weak empty suit, he and Putin would get along much better seeing that they both hold the same opinions of America.


6 posted on 09/15/2013 7:50:36 AM PDT by RS_Rider (I)
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To: rickmichaels

The Exceptionals are not the Americans Putin is meeting face to face, far from it, but rather the Americans who Putin goes around staging pictures of himself pretending to be.


7 posted on 09/15/2013 7:55:12 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: All
Putin’s impressive debut on the op-ed page announced his personally-held beliefs: "......when we ask for the Lord's blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal," Putin wrote in the NYT.

......this is something every Christian believes---an article of faith for Christians.....and, not coincidentally, the bedrock of our constitutional republic........

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Now, I view Putin's NYT op-ed as a post-grad master's thesis, wherein one postulates a theory then extrapolates. Clearly, Putin was eager to proclaim his Christianity and seized on "exceptionalism" as the word upon which to lay the foundation for his proclamation.

We, the people, know we will never hear Obama say anything even remotely religious.

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And let's not forget, Putin also defended Egyptian Gen al-Sisi in his recent effort to drive the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egyptian politics. Putin was there for al-Sisi when the general vowed to rebuild the 63 churches torched by Muzzies who rampaged over Christian homes and businesses.

8 posted on 09/15/2013 7:56:16 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Nailed that one, did you.


9 posted on 09/15/2013 8:03:32 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: rickmichaels

Well Vlad, we were special till Bambi came along.

Perhaps you can help us be special again - keep humiliating and torturing the little bitch so we can finally get rid of him.


10 posted on 09/15/2013 8:06:53 AM PDT by Ceausescu (21st century update to Stalin’s maxim: He who controls the media controls the voting booth.)
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To: rickmichaels

Anyone, and I mean, anyone, born outside The Continental 48, can accurately grasp, the breadth and depth, of the term, “American Exceptionalism”.

Before the USA was born:

Japan, already was, with it’s own feudal, non-freedom culture.
Russia, already was, ditto.
The European Countries, already were, ditto.

There has not been a nation directly conceived in FREEDOM, until the USA was born, so nobody, no how, no where, else in the world, at that time, and still today, “gets it”.

The bottom line, the folks that made America free, stood up, and told any and all royalty, anywhere,

TO KISS MY GRITS!

(and spilled blood to prove it!)


11 posted on 09/15/2013 8:23:00 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: rickmichaels

Whatever special status the US once had started disappearing with the election of Obama in 2008, and completely vanished with his re-eleciton.

Now we’re the BSA — the Benighted States of America. Welcome to the post-American century.


12 posted on 09/15/2013 8:24:19 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: rickmichaels
People keep using that word....I do not think it means what they think it means.

Just as "freedom of the press" does not refer to a group of people, but rather to the mechanisms of delivering information to the populace, American exceptionalism refers to the unique concepts that make us free....the ability to think, speak and act on our own behalf and for our own benefit.

Nowhere else in history was this available to people. It is the application of these concepts which makes ordinary people exceptional and able to do great things.

Semantics counts folks!!! We have let the left co-opt our language and define terms to THEIR purposes for too long! When you hear someone mis-using a term such as this please--reeducate them.

13 posted on 09/15/2013 8:27:35 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Putin has demonstrated just how flexible Bend Over Barry really is.)
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To: rickmichaels

Funny how Obama’s Press Corpse is stirring up patriotic fervor when they have been the biggest proponents of anti-American Exceptionalism for decades.


14 posted on 09/15/2013 8:28:04 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: rickmichaels
Americans are Exceptional (in every way)...Now that BHO needs his country to support him, he seems to praise her rather than apologize for her as he did in his first four years as POTUS. Spinning his failure to lead and his failures in foreign diplomacy to make it look like he planned this all along just won't work. America has many bruises and total awareness about this Socialist/Communist man who doesn't like America.....stay vigilant folks, (Obama cannot be trusted) any more than Medvedev or Putin...by the way, doesn't Russia have a Missile Defense Shield now?
15 posted on 09/15/2013 8:29:59 AM PDT by yoe ("They Come To America" order it now: http://www.theycometoamerica.com/buy-dvd/)
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To: rickmichaels

And Bill Ayers said, “Amen, bro! No, wait. I mean. Screw you, comrade! No. I think I had it right the first time. Ah, ferget it.”


16 posted on 09/15/2013 8:30:17 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: saganite

Putin is wrong.

65 million people who voted for Traitorobama are special — they are traitors to the United States of America.

May the last thing these traitors see before their ignominious death is their spawn mocking them for what they did.


17 posted on 09/15/2013 8:47:08 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: rickmichaels

I don’t expect Putin to understand what American exceptionalism is, or that our Constitution, Bill of Rights, Founders and our celebration of individualism makes us special. What strikes a nerve with me is that the Obama regime doesn’t understand it.


18 posted on 09/15/2013 8:49:39 AM PDT by pallis
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To: saganite

Putin might just help get a Republican elected in 2016.

Think about it: Hillary is the Democrat anointed nominee for President. No ifs ands or buts.

As putative successor to a two term prez of the same party, Hildy has to run on Obama’s record. No “it’s time for a change!” stuff. Hillary has to say “help us to continue the great legacy of President Obama!” or she’s toast to the Dem fat cats & kingmakers.

The harder Putin hammers Obama, the worse Obama looks. This is unavoidable because Putin has cred. Before the current Syria business is over, Obama will have the foreign policy stature of an annoying two year old.

Now, Obama may attempt to compensate by throwing more bread & circuses to the low-information crowd & give Hillary a domestic Santa Claus agenda to support, but how far does that go?

Vlad may turn out to be just a little too successful in his Obama belittling campaign, methinks.


19 posted on 09/15/2013 8:54:30 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: rickmichaels

Just goes to show- Putin understands what is meant by American exceptionalism about as well as Obama does.

Know who understood it very well? The passengers on Flight 93 who, as soon as they realized that they were on a suicide flight, did what true Americans do. THAT was exceptionalism.

Don’t expect the incompetent in the WH to understand that anytime soon.


20 posted on 09/15/2013 9:29:07 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: saganite
Putin has a point. We’re not so special anymore. Just another socialist welfare state.

Remember, too, that Russia has tried to warn the U.S. away from this path several times since 2008.

21 posted on 09/15/2013 9:39:56 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: rickmichaels

It’s touchy because “our own” president says we’re *not* exceptional.


22 posted on 09/15/2013 9:48:38 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: rickmichaels

I firmly believe in the Judeo-Christian ethic that God placed in humanity and that the Jews and the Americans have been exceptional in that sense. But the religious currents which guided that process have been undermined at every turn to the point that we no longer understand ourselves in those terms. We seem lost as societies.

“Forward” from what we had....


23 posted on 09/15/2013 9:51:40 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: elcid1970

Interesting point! Putie is a smart man. He knows this countries’ history...meaning he also knows how much they suckered us in the Cold War! I think there are 2 things driving him in all of this...his ego wants him to play Obumbles, which is way easier than he may have expected, and contempt for amateurs and maybe even a little racism in there too. He knows Obumbles is temporary but the Washingtom military machine is not. Look to him to make a big play in the near future.


24 posted on 09/15/2013 10:04:35 AM PDT by gr8eman (Ron Swanson for President!)
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To: saganite
Putin has a point. We’re not so special anymore. Just another socialist welfare state.

Yep. He's laughing at the US, right in its face. He's laughing because he knows the Soviet Union's plan of communist infiltration during the past 80 years paid off more than anybody ever would have believed. Diana West's new book about Stalin's long-range plan is a masterpiece.

25 posted on 09/15/2013 10:08:39 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: elcid1970
Think about it: Hillary is the Democrat anointed nominee for President. No ifs ands or buts.

Heh... You really think the Chicago mob is going to turn over the White House to the Clintons that easily? They got it and they aim to keep it. Remember how nervous people were about what the Clintons could do with 1,000 purloined FBI files? Now imagine what the descendants of Capone can do with the NSA data base.

26 posted on 09/15/2013 10:13:50 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rickmichaels

Thanks, Vlad. Now that we’re nothing special, we don’t have to provide $$aide$$ to the entire planet.


27 posted on 09/15/2013 10:29:09 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: gr8eman

OK, let’s stay on this train of thought: does Putin wish to see Hillary as US prez?

He may have a dilemma here: on the one hand Putin can read Hillary like a book through her record as FLOTUS then as US senator then as SecyState. He’s KGB & has the instincts to estimate the character & intentions of just about anyone. No doubt he has a very thick Hillary file somewhere.

Putin’s probably already figured out how to play Hillary like a cheap fiddle. He knows she has no moral compass & only cares about her own power & prestige. And as noted, Putin is extremely intelligent & like him or not, has a record of achievements inside Russia that is formidable if not always admirable.

What does Putin know about the Republican candidate? Nothing, obviously; neither he nor anyone else knows who that will be. But Putin can assume that a Republican will run against Obama’s record & hang that around Hillary’s neck and will be especially harsh on Obama’s world apology tours & the rest of our foreign policy where it looks like we are giving away the store in a futile effort to be `liked’. And for much of that time, Hillary was Obama’s cat’s paw. If a Republican does become President, Putin can just imagine the new prez announcing to the world, “No more Mister Nice Guy!”

Conclusion: I may have answered my own question. It’s not necessarily to Putin’s advantage to beat up Obama so badly that Obama becomes a serious liability to the Hillary campaign.

Meanwhile we should always remember the old Cold War adage: Americans play checkers while the Russians play chess.


28 posted on 09/15/2013 10:35:05 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Lancey Howard

Real question: If not Hillary, then who?


29 posted on 09/15/2013 10:36:34 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970
Real question: If not Hillary, then who?

Rahm? Michelle? Holder?
Somebody else who is owned by the Chicago mob?

Believe me, the Chicago mob has no intention of voluntarily just handing over the White House to somebody they don't own.

30 posted on 09/15/2013 10:57:02 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rickmichaels
The argument was set off by Russian President Vladimir Putin, who clearly knows what buttons to press to quickly get Americans riled up

Actually Putie pu was just repeating what we had already been lectured to by fearless leader. And less than five years into his presidency he has brought that plot to fruition!!!

31 posted on 09/15/2013 10:57:50 AM PDT by ontap (***)
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To: Texas Eagle
Yep, Putin is just saying what Obama and the left have always believed.
32 posted on 09/15/2013 11:31:28 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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