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French Riviera jeweller held under house arrest for shooting robber
The Local (France) ^ | 14 Sep 2013 13:19 GMT+02:00

Posted on 09/14/2013 1:49:59 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

A French jeweller who shot dead a teenager who held him up at gunpoint was under house arrest at a secret location Saturday after being charged with his murder.

Stephan Turk, 67, shot his 18-year-old victim in the back as he and another robber were fleeing on a scooter with gems stolen from Turk's shop in the centre of Nice on the French Riviera.

The thieves had punched and kicked the jeweller before forcing him to open his safe at gunpoint, behaviour that Turk's supporters believe should be taken into account when judging his heat-of-the-moment decision to run after them and fire three shots as they sped away from his shop.

The two examining magistrates in charge of the investigation did not agree.

After a court hearing, Turk was charged with murder on Friday evening but released from custody on condition that he stays at an agreed residence and wears an electronic tag.

"Armed, aggressive thugs attacked me," Turk said in a brief statement to French television. "I regret what happened, I regret that he is dead. But it is him who decided to do what he did. It is normal that I would defend myself."

If convicted of voluntary homicide, the jeweller could spend the rest of his life in prison, and his fate has triggered a national debate over what constitutes reasonable self-defence.

By Saturday morning, a Facebook page set up in Turk's support had attracted nearly a million "Likes".

French law allows for killers to escape conviction for murder if they can show they acted in "legitimate defence".

But the prosecutor who recommended Turk be charged does not believe that can be applied in this case as the jeweller's life did not appear to be in immediate danger when he fired an unlicensed semi-automatic pistol.

The jeweller reportedly told the magistrates that he had fired his first two shots with the intention of demobilising the scooter and a third one in response to his victim threatening to shoot at him with a rifle.

The dead teenager had a string of previous convictions for assault, theft and driving offences.

The strong reaction to the case reflects widespread exasperation in France with current levels of gun crime and a perception that the perpetrators of violent robberies get off too lightly.

Mainstream politicians have generally avoided comment on the case, saying it is a matter for the courts. But it has been seized upon by the far-right Front National.

"When people feel obliged to defend themselves with such dramatic consequences, it is a sign that they no longer have any confidence in the state or the forces of order," FN leader Marine Le Pen said Saturday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; france; yoots

1 posted on 09/14/2013 1:49:59 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“”When people feel obliged to defend themselves with such dramatic consequences, it is a sign that they no longer have any confidence in the state or the forces of order,” FN leader Marine Le Pen said Saturday.”

Well, duh.


2 posted on 09/14/2013 1:52:23 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Any description of the “victim?”


3 posted on 09/14/2013 1:53:58 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Gosh, I wonder what the perp looks like, right?

I JUST WONDER.


4 posted on 09/14/2013 1:54:25 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

France: The country that made cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal (formerly Wesley Cook before he decided to worship a pederast) an “honorary citizen of Paris”.


5 posted on 09/14/2013 1:59:36 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

isnt trayvonne a french name?


6 posted on 09/14/2013 1:59:37 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

personally he deserves a medal, if robbers thought they may just get a shotgun in the back they may think twice about being douchebags in the first place.....the guy should be commended.


7 posted on 09/14/2013 1:59:52 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: DeaconBenjamin

It is quite understandable, but shooting a thief in the back when they are leaving is not smart.


8 posted on 09/14/2013 2:00:00 PM PDT by expat2
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To: expat2

Yep. He’d get the same charges in most states here. Can’t shoot ‘em the back, no matter how much they need it.


9 posted on 09/14/2013 2:01:52 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Gen.Blather

“”When people feel obliged to defend themselves with such dramatic consequences, it is a sign that they no longer have any confidence in the state or the forces of order,”

I think this means don’t complain until after you are dead by the robber’s bullets. Your after death statement would be, “I no longer have any confidence in the state or the forces of order.”

Thank God I live in Texas - to robbers: I will kill you if you break into my house ‘cause you are going to do me harm or you wouldn’t be in my house. Your death will be sudden since my security measures will tell me you are about to be in my house. Maybe you should go somewhere else.


10 posted on 09/14/2013 2:03:59 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: expat2

“but shooting a thief in the back when they are leaving is not smart.”

Yes it is smart because a back is a large target. I would recommend several bullets in that back.


11 posted on 09/14/2013 2:06:00 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

And the “president” of France wanted to bomb Syria.


12 posted on 09/14/2013 2:08:56 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

http://www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/yahya-turk-the-son-of-stephan-turk-who-killed-a-thief-who-news-photo/180488302

My thinking is owner and dead thief are both Arab - Stephan being Christian Arab and the dead dude one of Allah’s misbegotten minions


13 posted on 09/14/2013 2:16:59 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Little Ray

Rock Salt & Pork Rinds in the back,.... defend himself & insult them at the same time.


14 posted on 09/14/2013 2:18:02 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: expat2
It is quite understandable, but shooting a thief in the back when they are leaving is not smart.

That depends on whether by "smart" you mean an action that is good for society or an action that looks good in court.

15 posted on 09/14/2013 2:24:32 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: expat2
It is quite understandable, but shooting a thief in the back when they are leaving is not smart.

You're right, expat2, but that doesn't mean I care for such laws. Where the bullet holes end up in violent criminals really shouldn't matter.

16 posted on 09/14/2013 2:40:30 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Marcella

Well, I hope your bark is worse than your bite, because if you actually do that, you may bitterly regret it.


17 posted on 09/14/2013 2:49:50 PM PDT by expat2
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To: DeaconBenjamin
If convicted of voluntary homicide, the jeweller could spend the rest of his life in prison,

The following is from Victor Hugo's Les Miserables," paperback - page 598, describing French customs ...

Such are our customs. We do not devour, we gnaw; we do not exterminate, we clutch.

18 posted on 09/14/2013 2:50:33 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: expat2

i agree. legally in colorado, even if they are in your house, shooting them in the back is an indication your life was not in imminent danger. shooting them after they left the house, especially in the back, is not legally defensable. these are situations where the right decision, even perhaps the morally correct decision, is legally the wrong decision.


19 posted on 09/14/2013 2:59:12 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: expat2

They had a gun and beat him and stole his property, had his property with them. In Texas, you can protect your property as well as yourself. I would have shot them.


20 posted on 09/14/2013 3:25:15 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: bravo whiskey
legally in colorado, even if they are in your house, shooting them in the back is an indication your life was not in imminent danger.

Hopefully, I'll never have to face that charge, as I have already decided, based on the history of a lot of these sons of Satan, that they are just retreating to regroup and re-attack.

Any one in my house, especially sneaking in at night, is going to get my full, undivided attention to kill them, and it doesn't matter where in their body my bullets go.

I also intent to make every effort that anyone in their retreat vehicle doesn't get away either, as they already know the way to my secluded residence.

21 posted on 09/14/2013 4:30:49 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (SWAT stands for Storing Weapons for patriots to Attack Tyranny.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
The gun was unlicensed, unlike the Robbers gun that shall not be discussed.

He got his man, no matter how, the no good POS is dead.
Justice served.

22 posted on 09/14/2013 4:35:26 PM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: bravo whiskey; Balding_Eagle

I didn’t even have to look for circumstantial proof, it just popped up when I hit FR Comments:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3066874/posts

The point is, unless you kill ALL the vermin, chances are you’re in big danger.


23 posted on 09/14/2013 4:50:41 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (SWAT stands for Storing Weapons for patriots to Attack Tyranny.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Stephan Turk, 67, shot his 18-year-old victim in the back as he and another robber were fleeing on a scooter with gems stolen from Turk's shop in the centre of Nice on the French Riviera.

Behavior only allowed in the state of Texas, and then only at night.

24 posted on 09/14/2013 5:05:15 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Gen.Blather

three shots is hardly defending yourself dramatically, frenchies.


25 posted on 09/14/2013 5:59:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks DeaconBenjamin.
If convicted of voluntary homicide, the jeweller could spend the rest of his life in prison, and his fate has triggered a national debate over what constitutes reasonable self-defence.

26 posted on 09/14/2013 8:02:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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