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SENATE AMENDMENT WOULD GIVE DOJ POWER TO DETERMINE WHO IS A 'JOURNALIST'
breitbart.com ^ | September 13, 2013 | Bes Shapiro

Posted on 09/13/2013 5:03:44 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey

An amendment is moving through the Senate Judiciary Committee that would essentially allow the government to determine who is a journalist for purposes of legal protection of sources. For purposes of protecting a source, a “journalist” under law would be anyone who: Works or worked for “an entity or service that disseminates news or information by means of newspaper; nonfiction book; wire service; news agency; news website, mobile application or other news or information service…news program; magazine or other periodical…or through television or radio broadcast…” These people would have to have the “primary intent to investigate events and procure material in order to disseminate to the public news or information.” Opinion journalists might not be covered.

Bloggers and citizen journalists – citizens who commit acts of journalists without working for such an outlet – would not be covered, unless it was determined that “at the inception of the process of gathering the news or information sought, had the primary intent to investigate issues or events and procure material in order to disseminate to the public news or information.” In other words, the government – the Department of Justice – would now determine whether primary intent was news distribution or political concerns.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freedomofthepress; press; speech; tyranny
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1 posted on 09/13/2013 5:03:44 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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To: MeshugeMikey
First Amendment
2 posted on 09/13/2013 5:04:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

it would appear to be the case.

the DOJ...hmmm sounds familiar...


3 posted on 09/13/2013 5:06:20 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Bullsh!t!

There is no such thing as THE PRESS in the sense that term is used by elitist Progressives today — some sort of elite group whose members are allowed preferential treatment under law. In the Constitutional sense, “the press” is a technological device for disseminating information.

One cannot be a “member” of the press. One can only have access to a press.

Any device which enables one to state and publicize one’s views is a “press,” whether it be moveable type, offset, TV, radio, or the Internet. We all have free access to “the press,” meaning we have the right to pay any provider who wishes to sell us access to publicize our ideas.

In this regard, no CBS anchor has anymore claim to special treatment for being part of “the press” than does any blogger.

“Freedom of the press” applies equally to every citizen seeking to use a technological device to record and publicize his or her opinion.


4 posted on 09/13/2013 5:06:20 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Maceman

They want to stop bloggers from consorting with whistleblowers to reveal government wrongdoing.

Then we will only have “government-defined” (licensed) journalists, like those in the “real” media—the New York Times and Time Magazine—to keep us informed about what the news is.


5 posted on 09/13/2013 5:08:28 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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6 posted on 09/13/2013 5:08:33 PM PDT by Nachum (I am Breitbartacus!)
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To: MeshugeMikey
So much for Freedom of the Press whether you agree with protected sources or not...this is a form of censorship and control of speech and the idea of the 'press.'


7 posted on 09/13/2013 5:08:45 PM PDT by EBH (America is not judge, jury, and executioner for the world.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Yeah, cuz the only ones who really question the Administration is people like Matt Drudge, who used to be a gift-shop clerk, and now runs a HIGHLY effective, (almost) one-man operation.

And he’s SUPPLANTING the cartelized, legacy media that has been coopted by The Establishment.

And WE, TOO, are part of the new and highly effective electronic Samizdat.

AND THEY CANNOT STAND IT.

So they’re going to try and simply make us ILLEGAL.


8 posted on 09/13/2013 5:09:17 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: MeshugeMikey

Where the Second Amendment goes, the FIRST Amendment swiftly follows.

First they came for the gun-owners, but.....

Well you know the REST.


9 posted on 09/13/2013 5:11:01 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Maceman
“Freedom of the press” applies equally to every citizen seeking to use a technological device to record and publicize his or her opinion."

Thats correct. there were no more advanced technologies for dissemenating inforamtion when the term "freedom of the press" was coined.

Somehow the phrase "freedom of the tongue" just never got the respect it deserved...



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10 posted on 09/13/2013 5:13:03 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: gaijin
darn near first hand......


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11 posted on 09/13/2013 5:14:53 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Bad idea ... think Eric the Corrupt and his band of racketeering lawyers of the DOJ.


12 posted on 09/13/2013 5:15:15 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Progressives when they fail blame others and do the same thing again expecting different results)
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To: CondorFlight

Precisely.

They want ABSOLUTE control!


13 posted on 09/13/2013 5:16:45 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: EBH

Thank You..from one undocumented journalist to another


14 posted on 09/13/2013 5:17:47 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: gaijin

They have no idea of just how HUGE the backlash ALREADY IS!!

EMAIL JOURNALISTS TAKE NOTE


15 posted on 09/13/2013 5:18:58 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Imagine the response this will get ... on... say...FAZEDBOOK!!?


16 posted on 09/13/2013 5:19:52 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: gaijin

I will tell you something about Japan —the 3rd biggest economy:

Their press is dominated by “Kisshya Kai” —the press pool.

It’s a kind of news cartel of journalists assigned to each government ministry, and they have very stable membership lists over time.

The stated reason is to uphold standards and provide quality service, but naturally what happens is that politicians develop special relationships with the journalists covering them —the politician becomes 10% journo and the journo becomes 50% politician.

The relationship is close and can sometimes offer advantages, however most of the time it’s a huge impediment to breaking really important stories: he (it’s almost always a HE) will lose access if he doesn’t hold back crucial details, sometimes —the relationship will be damaged.

No huge political scandals in Japan are ever broken by “reputable” papers or magazines. Each press pool regularly meets in private and as a GROUP they decide what pieces of info are worthy of publication.

The hot, important political stories are broken by what by Japanese standards would be considered, “The National Enquirer”, or more accurately, the black-and-white “Space Baby Found In Watermelon” rags we have next to the registers.

So apparently The Regime wants to set up a more cartelized media that is closed to the likes of FR, etc.

The system they want is anti-market and the TRUTH will suffer —this makes sense for a gummint run by a Gay Muslim who smuggles machine-guns and missiles when he is not (expensively) vacationing.


17 posted on 09/13/2013 5:22:48 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: MeshugeMikey

Or Farce-book?


18 posted on 09/13/2013 5:23:10 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: MeshugeMikey

Di Fi the Evil is behind this....along with Obozo. The GOP had better have the balls to kill this piece of offal.


19 posted on 09/13/2013 5:25:46 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: MeshugeMikey
[DOJ]...would now determine whether primary intent was news distribution or political concerns.

And that's the scary and revealing part. Why make a distinction? What about free speech?

The "news" media of today are indistinguishable from propaganda (political) organs. They print very little straight news reports; almost all of them are liberally sprinkled with a left-leaning tilt.

So, those "news" organizations or bloggers that lean left will be left alone to spread their "news", but those leaning right will be harassed and prosecuted, the ultimate goal of this "legislation".

20 posted on 09/13/2013 5:26:49 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Jim Robinson
Senator Ted Cruz' statement on the Senate bill:

It strikes me that we are on dangerous territory if we are drawing distinctions that are treating some engaged in the process of reporting and journalism better than others. If we are advantaging those who happen to receive a paycheck from a corporate media entity over those who happen to be citizens….I for one would have deep troubles with legislation from Congress saying ‘we will grant special privileges if you happen to work for a corporate media interest’….It seems to me the First Amendment protects the activity, not the employment status of the person engaging in it.
Once again, Cruz is on our side in We The People v. Washington D.C. Elitists. Do they even have a clue that the Angry Mob is gathering ahead of 2014.
21 posted on 09/13/2013 5:32:31 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: gaijin

And WE, TOO, are part of the new and highly effective electronic Samizdat.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Indeed, we are.


22 posted on 09/13/2013 5:40:52 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: jeffc; MestaMachine

The point of this legislation is to go after the sources who leak classified or sensitive information to other than “corporate media.”

IIRC, Fast & Furious was leaked to Legal Insurrection and another non-corporate news site. (Correct me if I’m wrong, MM.) This bill is intended to prevent non-standard news distribution sites from being able to protect their sources.

The unintended consequences, however, of legally distinguishing traditional corporate media from citizen journalists could be disastrous and used by this administration to target their political opponents as happened with the IRS targeting of Tea Party organizations.


23 posted on 09/13/2013 5:47:25 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

They have no clue. Even after the Two Million Biker Ride.

Run, Ted, Run!!


24 posted on 09/13/2013 5:52:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: MeshugeMikey
The 0bama regime is making war on the First, Second and Fourth amendments. Smells like tyranny.

5.56mm

25 posted on 09/13/2013 5:56:44 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MeshugeMikey
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that in the writings of the Founders they envisioned the press as being the watchdogs of government.
Today we have a revolving door between the Obama administration and "journalism", with 21 reported journalists now officially work for Obama.
And now Congress proposes to be the watchdogs of journalism.
God help us and God save the republic.
26 posted on 09/13/2013 5:57:02 PM PDT by Amagi (God Save the Republic.)
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To: Amagi

2013: The “Watchdogs” are being hired by the government.

Richard Stengel, the top editor of Time magazine for the past seven years, is planning to step down as managing editor for a new job at the U.S. Department of State, sources familiar with the situation tell POLITICO and Capital New York.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/richard-stengel-leaving-time-state-department-96732.html

Was Mr Stengel amongst the 21 now working for Obama or is he “catch”.....22? - [ sorry, I could NOT resist]

It used to be bankers and “industrialists” that see sawed between private enterprise and the government, now its urinalists.

“God help us and God save the republic.”!


27 posted on 09/13/2013 6:27:47 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: M Kehoe

if it smells like tyranny and walks like tyranny its tyranny, alright


28 posted on 09/13/2013 6:28:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: MeshugeMikey

In the immortal words of Boss Tweed: “Stop them !?*# pitchers!”


29 posted on 09/13/2013 6:29:24 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: MeshugeMikey

I’m assuming this have to pass the whole Congress.


30 posted on 09/13/2013 6:29:51 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: BuckeyeTexan
could be! be disastrous..

and will be disastrous if we are not ever MORE VIGILANT.

this ones going to COURT!!
31 posted on 09/13/2013 6:32:38 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: Husker24

We don’t have time to wait for congress to get their act together”..Barack Hussein Obama...

who knows how this will play out.

at what turn in the road to hard tyranny does a lawless “leader” stop?


32 posted on 09/13/2013 6:37:34 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: MeshugeMikey
So would any of Ben Franklin's writings have been state approved journalism? Poor Richard's? The Dogood letters? the Gazette?
33 posted on 09/13/2013 6:39:18 PM PDT by DaveyB (Note to the NSA agent monitering this: the peace of tyranny is the enemy of humanity)
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To: DaveyB

Undocumented Journalism.....before it became known as such.

please show me your posting lizence papuhs!!


34 posted on 09/13/2013 6:45:45 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Quite frankly we need more muckrakers....not less.


35 posted on 09/13/2013 7:02:38 PM PDT by EBH (America is not judge, jury, and executioner for the world.)
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36 posted on 09/13/2013 7:03:32 PM PDT by dfwgator
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37 posted on 09/13/2013 7:09:19 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: dfwgator

ahaha THAT would be a bit obvious and we cant have that.

the drones..the zombies.. will see this “legislation” as necessary control..with nary a thought


38 posted on 09/13/2013 7:10:39 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Fly the flag upside down. Our Republic is dying.


39 posted on 09/13/2013 7:11:09 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 444Flyer

Thank You Fellow Un-Documented Journalist!


40 posted on 09/13/2013 7:11:31 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Instead of focusing on acts of journalism, the law would identify people by employment status.”

acts of journalism are acts of journalism regardless of employment.

Who employed Ben Franklin?

No Ones paid me to post this thread .

I see a Supreme Curt case arising


41 posted on 09/13/2013 7:16:59 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Un-Documented Journalist / Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team)
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To: MeshugeMikey

BTTT!!!


42 posted on 09/13/2013 7:17:11 PM PDT by 444Flyer (How long O LORD? Habakkuk 2;Isaiah 55)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Watch this...

“The Emperor has no clothes!”

“The Emperor has no clothes!”

“The Emperor has no clothes!”


43 posted on 09/13/2013 7:19:15 PM PDT by dkazz
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To: MeshugeMikey

Government has no such power.


44 posted on 09/13/2013 7:21:26 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MeshugeMikey

The First Amendment right to free speech was meant to protect the rights of pamphleteers. Today’s “pamphleteers” are bloggers. The sick and very scary thing is that America is one Supreme Court vote away from big government tyranny; from Nazi America.


45 posted on 09/13/2013 7:22:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

23. We demand laws to fight against deliberate political lies and their dissemination
by the press. In order to make it possible to create a German press, we demand:
a) all editors and editorial employees of newspapers appearing in the German
language must be German by race;

b) non-German newspapers require express permission from the State for
their publication. They may not be printed in the German language;

c) any financial participation in a German newspaper or influence on such a
paper is to be forbidden by law to non-Germans and the penalty for any
breech of this law will be the closing of the newspaper in question, as well
as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-Germans involved.
Newspapers which violate the public interest are to be banned. We
demand laws against trends in art and literature which have a destructive
effect on our national life, and the suppression of performances that offend
against the above requirements.

Nazi Party Platform 1920


46 posted on 09/13/2013 7:24:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GeronL
Government has no such power.

When has that ever stopped them?

47 posted on 09/13/2013 7:27:46 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: gaijin

” Yeah, cuz the only ones who really question the Administration is people like Matt Drudge, who used to be a gift-shop clerk, and now runs a HIGHLY effective, (almost) one-man operation.”

You forgot to preface that with “the conservative “ Matt Drudge. Apparently if you report anything unflattering about the left you are a dreaded conservative. I’ve seen a lot of his headlines about the right and the left. They can’t stand that.


48 posted on 09/13/2013 7:32:31 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

exactly right


49 posted on 09/13/2013 7:35:19 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MeshugeMikey

We are all self-employed.


50 posted on 09/13/2013 7:36:57 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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