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Senate Panel OKs Measure Defining a Journalist
breitbart.com ^ | 9/12/13 | ap

Posted on 09/12/2013 1:15:00 PM PDT by ColdOne

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121 posted on 09/13/2013 9:15:10 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: ColdOne
A "Government-defined," sanctioned "press," made up of Senate-approved "journalists" is not what the Founders had in mind when they framed the Constitution's Bill of Rights, as is evidenced by their words and actions.

Citizens should band together to "call out" government officials on such a blatant attack on the First Amendment, no matter what ruse is used to justify it.

Even Thomas Jefferson, who was often attacked by the press of his day, spoke out strongly in its defense. His passion, of course, was defending liberty, unlike that of the current Congress and Administration.

"The press [is] the only tocsin of a nation. [When it] is completely silenced... all means of a general effort [are] taken away." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper, Nov 29, 1802. (*) ME 10:341

"Since truth and reason have maintained their ground against false opinions in league with false facts, the press confined to truth needs no other legal restraint. The public judgment will correct false reasonings and opinions on a full hearing of all parties, and no other definite line can be drawn between the inestimable liberty of the press and its demoralizing licentiousness. If there be still improprieties which this rule would not restrain, its supplement must be sought in the censorship of public opinion." --Thomas Jefferson: 2nd Inaugural Address, 1805. ME 3:381

"The functionaries of every government have propensities to command at will the liberty and property of their constituents. There is no safe deposit for these but with the people themselves, nor can they be safe with them without information. Where the press is free, and every man able to read, all is safe." --Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey, 1816. ME 14:384

"Our liberty cannot be guarded but by the freedom of the press, nor that be limited without danger of losing it." --Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1786.

And, finally, but by no means the entirety of Jefferson's thoughts on the need for freedom of the press, no matter how critical its views:

"No experiment can be more interesting than that we are now trying, and which we trust will end in establishing the fact, that man may be governed by reason and truth. Our first object should therefore be, to leave open to him all the avenues to truth. The most effectual hitherto found, is the freedom of the press. It is, therefore, the first shut up by those who fear the investigation of their actions."(Underlining added for emphasis) --Thomas Jefferson to John Tyler, 1804. ME 11:33

Fox should place this final Jefferson statement on its screen prior to each program as a means of educating the electorate on the role of the press in a free society.

The alphabet networks have dominated interpretation of news for so long that many citizens never have stopped to think that their opinions may have been manipulated in a manner which may not have included a search for truth.

Then, there are these numbered items from the writings of Benjamin Franklin:

"Revisions of the Pennsylvania Declaration of Rights
ms emendations of a broadside text, An Essay of a Declaration of Rights, Brought in by the Committee Appointed for That Purpose, and Now under the Consideration of the Convention of the State of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia, 1776): Library Company of Philadelphia.
[Between July 29 and August 15, 1776]

An Essay of a Declaration of Rights, Brought in by the Committee appointed for that Purpose, and now under the Consideration of the Convention of the State of Pennsylvania.

1. That all Men are born equally free and independant, and have certain natural, inherent and unalienable Rights, amongst which are the enjoying and defending Life and Liberty, acquiring, possessing and protecting Property, and pursuing and obtaining Happiness and Safety.

2. That all Men have a natural and unalienable Right to worship almighty God according to the Dictates of their own Consciences and Understandings: And that no Man ought or of Right can be compelled to attend ^^ any any place of Religious Worship, or ^^erect or support or maintain any Worship, Place orany place of Worship or maintain any Ministry, contrary to, or against his own free will and Consent. Nor can any Man ^^who acknowledges the Being of a God be justly deprived or abridged of any Civil Right as a Citizen, on account of his ^^Religious Sentiments or peculiar Mode of religious Worship. And that no Authority can or ought to be vested in, or assumed by, any Power whatever that shall in any Case interfere with, or in any Manner controul, the Right of Conscience in the free Exercise of religious Worship.

3. That the People of this State have the sole exclusive and inherent Right of governing and regulating the internal Police of the same.

4. That all Power being originally inherent in, and consequently derived from, the People, therefore all Officers of Government, whether Legislative or Executive, are their Trustees and Servants, and at all Times accountable to them.

5. That Government is or ought to be instituted for the common Benefit, Protection and Security of the People, Nation or Community,* ^^[in the margin: * And not] and that a Majority of the Community hath an indubitable, unalienable and indefeasible Right to reform, alter or abolish it ^^Government in such a Manner as shall be by that MajorityCommunity judged most conducive to the Public Weal.

6. That those who are employed in the Legislative and Executive Business of the State may be restrained from Oppression, by feeling and participating the common Burtherns, the People have a Right, at such Periods as they may think proper, to reduce their Public Officers to a private Station, return them into that Body from which they were originally taken, and supply the Vacancies by certain and regular Elections: But that the having served in any Office, out not in all Cases to disqualify the Person from being re-elected. truth.

"12. That the People have a Right to Freedom of Speech, and of writing and publishing their Sentiments, therefore the Freedom of the Press ought not to be restrained.

13. That the People have a Right to bear Arms for the Defence of themselves and the State, and as standing Armies in the Time of Peace are dangerous to Liberty, they ought not to be kept up: And that the Military should be kept under strict Subordination to, and governed by, the Civil Power.

14. That a frequent Recurrence to fundamental Principles, and a firm Adherence to Justice, Moderation, Temperance Industry and Frugality are absolutely necessary to preserve the Blessings of Liberty, and keep a Government free, the People have therefore a Right to exact a due and constant Regard to these Points from their Legislators or Officers and Representatives in the making and Executing such Laws as are necessary for the good Govt. of the State."


122 posted on 09/13/2013 9:29:15 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: jimfree

Hell, licenses works so well for the 2nd Amend, no? Why would the Press cry foul? /s


123 posted on 09/13/2013 9:40:58 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: PATRIOT1876; ALPAPilot

Well, when you have one of (R) crafting/signing a bill under the guise of ‘campaign finance reform’ (AKA Anti-1st) and was not only re-elected, but also on the tix for the PRESIDENCY; but not kicked out of office...what do you expect?


124 posted on 09/13/2013 9:53:15 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: boxlunch

Sorry, but the States already have this ability. It’s the 9th and 10th Amend. I just have never seen a State stand strong....yet.

Plus the S.C. statement is semi-incorrect. We the People are the final arbiters of what is Const. or not. Again, We just have not stood strong to remind anyone of the same.


125 posted on 09/13/2013 9:57:20 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: a fool in paradise
*Conservatives will be counted as 3/5 of a journalist by the Left.
In the near future, Conservatives will be counted as 3/5ths of a Soylent Green cracker.*

Yep. We'll be the ones wearing the “Juden” and the Cross patches before they take us away to the Soylent plant.

126 posted on 09/13/2013 10:29:53 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Lazamataz

So when do “journalists” get their Obamacare exemptions?


127 posted on 09/13/2013 10:47:03 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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To: NCC-1701

bump


128 posted on 09/13/2013 10:53:53 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Slambat

Moderates will count for 3/5ths, conservatives will count for zero.


129 posted on 09/13/2013 1:43:13 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: ColdOne
This is a DiFi thing... Cant get talk radio shut down, so she is trying and end around on the 1st amendment...

This is for show, as bad as Boehner is, this is DOA in the house.
130 posted on 09/13/2013 2:28:12 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Why do we even need a Senate at all? The Federal government is constantly overruling the states, so why not eliminate states also? The old states could become administrative regions.


131 posted on 09/13/2013 6:48:50 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: ColdOne

Apparently some have more First Amendment freedoms than others. I’m just waiting for Congress next to pass a law requiring the licensing of journalists.


132 posted on 09/14/2013 11:28:29 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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