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NYT: A Plea for Caution From Russia: What Putin Has to Say to Americans About Syria
New York Times ^ | September 11, 2013 | Vladimir V. Putin

Posted on 09/12/2013 12:51:09 AM PDT by lbryce

MOSCOW — RECENT events surrounding Syria have prompted me to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders. It is important to do so at a time of insufficient communication between our societies.

Relations between us have passed through different stages. We stood against each other during the cold war. But we were also allies once, and defeated the Nazis together. The universal international organization — the United Nations — was then established to prevent such devastation from ever happening again.

The United Nations’ founders understood that decisions affecting war and peace should happen only by consensus, and with America’s consent the veto by Security Council permanent members was enshrined in the United Nations Charter. The profound wisdom of this has underpinned the stability of international relations for decades.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; putineditorial; syria
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Great article, Vlad!But Can You Do This? Hey, France, Germany! Vlad Wrote
A Great Ed-Op, But Can He Do This? Who You Gonna Trust More?
1 posted on 09/12/2013 12:51:10 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce
He's one smart KGB cookie!

Not only has this POS ( I am referring to Putin), outperformed and clearly beaten the US, now he's engaging in classic PRAVDA propaganda backup to his policies.

He is on a roll and why shouldn't he be? He KO’d Obama, 30 seconds into Round One.

Now comes the direct appeal to the American people...to hell with you Putin and when you descend down to Hades, take the POTUS with you.

2 posted on 09/12/2013 12:57:39 AM PDT by Netz
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To: lbryce

Putin floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee.


3 posted on 09/12/2013 12:59:59 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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To: All

I see it now. Obama on Russian TV; My fellow Comrades....


4 posted on 09/12/2013 1:04:26 AM PDT by lbryce (The 22nd Amendment Lives:1142 Days Until America's Greatest Nemesis Gets the Heave "Ho")
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To: lbryce
. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation.

International politics makes for some strange positions. obamber arguing for American exeptionalism ?

Anyway, thats where vlady lost me.

5 posted on 09/12/2013 1:41:27 AM PDT by quimby
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To: lbryce

If only we had a leader.


6 posted on 09/12/2013 1:54:26 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: lbryce
Thanks for writing Vlad...and thanks for giving our little dick tater a headache to last for eternity. But honestly..you owed it to the American people to help correct this misdirected ship, since your countries old 60's KGB subversion tactics helped to grow us millions of little drug induced marxist spoiled brats.

That said, don't think for a minute that you can now be "king" of America. Try to step into that role and the still exceptional, free, American people will give your cute little chest a titty twister to remember. Thanks again. And have a nice day.

7 posted on 09/12/2013 2:10:49 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: lbryce
A few observations:

"This internal conflict, fueled by foreign weapons supplied to the opposition, is one of the bloodiest in the world."

Putin is pointing the finger at the United States under the Obama Syndicate. The conflict in Syria is being fueled by U.S. supplied weapons. This is the area of illicit arms trafficking. It is this type of covert action that has set world opinion against the United States. There has been a move to curb the proliferation of military-style small arms to insurgent forces and other non-state actors. On 2 April 2013, the General Assembly adopted the landmark Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) to address the following:

"the international trade in conventional arms, from small arms to battle tanks, combat aircraft and warships. The treaty will foster peace and security by putting a stop to destabilising arms flows to conflict regions. It will prevent human rights abusers and violators of the law of war from being supplied with arms. And it will help keep warlords, pirates, and gangs from acquiring these deadly tools."

This is why Putin states,

"We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos. The law is still the law, and we must follow it whether we like it or not. Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council. Anything else is unacceptable under the United Nations Charter and would constitute an act of aggression."

I believe under the definition of "force" comes the idea of weapons proliferation. It is the heart of Fast and Furious, the Benghazi scandal and its coverup. It is this action by the Obama Syndicate that is out of step with UN law and it could wind up blowing up in Zer0's face.

" There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal."

I believe Vladimir Putin means to do good. I know he believes in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. His father was a communist and atheist, but his mother was a devoted Russian Orthodox Christian. She had Vladimir baptized as an infant, and he attended church with her often. He attends church on a regular basis. Contrast this with the Obama family who rarely attend church.

8 posted on 09/12/2013 2:19:00 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: lbryce
Very interesting.

I'm sure that Putin still misunderstands some things about the heart of American traditional beliefs.

However, it was a very mature and constructive communication.

Points made about who's who in terrorism are probably the most important part. It give credence to the Russian attempt to warn the US about the Boston bombers.

Not trashing Obama allows the American left to listen.

I see less posturing here than in nearly all American politicians, today.

9 posted on 09/12/2013 2:25:45 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: lbryce
Not a bad piece, though Putin is wrong about Iraq and Afghanistan. They are a mess now because of Obama the Clown.

Also, did he take a shot at Obama or America when he said this:

And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.

Far be it from me to think that Obama considers America "great"...on the contrary, I believe Obama hates the Constitution, Christianity and capitalism.

What makes America great are those three things, not in that order.

Putin is wrong to think America is not exceptional...we are. Obama is wrong because he says we are exceptional, because he says this only to stroke his ego.

10 posted on 09/12/2013 2:26:11 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: jonrick46

I agree with most of what you say...


11 posted on 09/12/2013 2:31:21 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Thank you. This should bring an amusing look at the situation:

Syria is Brer Zer0's Tar Baby . . .

The more Brer Zer0 pokes away at the Tar Baby, the more he will get stuck to it.

12 posted on 09/12/2013 2:43:01 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: lbryce

13 posted on 09/12/2013 2:46:18 AM PDT by Daffynition (* “I know, but I do not approve. And I am not resigned.* ~ Edna St. Vincent Millay)
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To: lbryce

I reserve the right to oppose both Obama and Putin.


14 posted on 09/12/2013 2:49:10 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gun Control Haiku: Say "Registration" / And they call you paranoid / So say "Privacy")
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To: SoFloFreeper
Putin is wrong to think America is not exceptional...we are. Obama is wrong because he says we are exceptional, because he says this only to stroke his ego.

Yes, Putin misunderstands what American exceptionalism is, and Obama is the epitome of that arrogance and self righteousness.

Putin may think Obama is representative of America, God help us.

15 posted on 09/12/2013 2:53:29 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Daffynition

His OP-Ed wouldn’t get his picture in Times Square, let alone right next to Lincoln.


16 posted on 09/12/2013 2:53:35 AM PDT by lbryce (The 22nd Amendment Lives:1142 Days Until America's Greatest Nemesis Gets the Heave "Ho")
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To: Haiku Guy

Well, why not? They’re both on the same team.


17 posted on 09/12/2013 2:54:30 AM PDT by lbryce (The 22nd Amendment Lives:1142 Days Until America's Greatest Nemesis Gets the Heave "Ho")
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To: 1035rep
If only we had a leader.

We're the leadership there actually is. If you're waiting for something more charismatic, you're probably going to be disappointed.

18 posted on 09/12/2013 2:54:43 AM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Maybe Putin thinks Obama isn’t exceptional. I would agree with that.


19 posted on 09/12/2013 4:13:03 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

He sure ain’t American.


20 posted on 09/12/2013 4:24:32 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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