ASROC Nuclear Depth charge.
Posted on 09/11/2013 8:48:23 AM PDT by Nachum
The Russians aren’t itching for war. They just like flexing their muscles and pushing the pussy in the WH around.
Cheap thrills, considering what an easy target President You Didn't Build That is; all the same, I have a hunch any laughter beats none at all.
ASROC Nuclear Depth charge.
Agreed. "Carrier killer" is a cute name for a 30 y/o ship that was outclassed when it was new. Still, Putin's dealing with Obama here, so the symbolism matters far more than the substance.
The Russians are just posturing; they have no real interest of full blown war. Their population is on the incline now, their economy is doing better, the old guard “soviet” (read elderly) is being pulled into this century by Putin while the younger generation is enjoying a few better things in life and their treasury is starting to fill back up; why would they want a war?
I do not think the CVN is viable against an enemy for whom it poses an existential threat.
I know most don’t agree, and, obviously, we won’t find out until the shooting starts.
This Moskva is a cruiser and was previously named Slava (Glory). Slava was the lead ship of Cruiser class.
It's armed with 16x SS-N-12 SANDBOX anti-ship missiles
8x8 (64) S-300PMU Favorit (SA-N-6 Grumble) long-range surface-to-air missiles
2x20 (40) OSA-MA (SA-N-4 Gecko) SR SAM
1x twin AK-130 130mm/L70 dual purpose guns
6xAK-630 close-in weapons systems
2x RBU-6000 anti-submarine mortars
10x(2 quin) 533mm torpedo tubes
It is the SANDBOX missiles that give it its "carrier killer" reputation.
I will not discuss its various vulnerabilities.
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If the ruskis do anything stupid like sink a carrier, it will be like Dr. Stangelove, the US Mil will go on its own and leave the faggot in the WhiteyHut hiding. And Pooty Putin know it!
This is all just jerking the queer muslim’s chain. All show.
I see she has both anchors. Great! She’ll need those once the tugs get her to Syria.
Will John “Pinprick” Kerry, Obama’s esteemed Secretary of Statements hand over control of the Mediterranean to Russia?
Will B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, continue to bow low to his puppet master Putin?
Will Congress replace Boehner with Allen West as Speaker?
Will Speaker Allen West appoint a Special Prosecutor for Benghazi?
Why wouldn't they want to prevent terrorists from over-running Syria? Why wouldn't they protect their base in Syria?
I'm at the point where I wish they'd go in to protect Christian villages from US-subsidized "freedom fighters".
How did it get this bizarre?
Nah. Fire 3x cruise missiles at each US destroyers. From 1/2 mile out. No warning. Just launch. Don't even bother to wonder if the cruise missile arms itself. Just hit the destroyer or supply ship (they are the only ones we have in the Med) with the mass of the weapon itself.
Power. Computers. Weapons. Mobility. Structure damage. Engine room and GT intakes out. Radio out. Radars out. Missile launchers out. CIC out. Ship is worthless from the impact damage alone.
No cruiser or destroyer-sized ship hit by ANY single weapon of ANY kind (whether armed or dud) in ANY action or accident since WWII in ANY navy worldwide has had command, control, combat capability and mobility survive after the impact. NONE. In ANY navy. (Above based on over two dozen accidents and combat hits.) Now, many of the ships hit "only" a few of the above ("only" losing all electric power for a "only" few hours, or "only" getting their keel blown in half, or "only" losing their weapons or "only" their magazine or "only" their radar and radio or "only" shaft and steering. But NONE could keep fighting.
That's true. Structurally, they have very little compartmentalization.
I was waiting for that picture to appear. I was on the USS Preston DD795 during that test and I think that picture was taken from our bridge. We were about 4500 yds from surface zero with our stbd quarter facing the blast when the thing went off, shook hell out of us and damaged some equipment. The thing was called an ASROC, Nothing more than a 15KT (W44) depth charge with a rocket motor attached. Went off about 670 ft down 370 NM west of San Diego on May 11 1962 and scared hell out of a bunch of us. The ship in the picture is the USS Agerholm DD826 which launched the weapon. This was the Swordfish part of the Dominic series of tests in the Pacific. This info was declassified on about 1988.
Subroc was a 30 mile range US weapon, depending on the source either 5 KT or 200 KT.
Soviets had nukes on all of their SSMs, and if there are not nukes on the Moskva it is not because those weapons don’t still exist in reserve. The Russians aren’t suppose to deploy with them though as per the 1991 agreement at the end of the Cold War.
Carriers are also not expected to survive a conflict with Russia/USSR if tactical nuclear weapons are used. Tactical nuclear war at sea was not something that was to favor the use of carriers toward the end of the Cold War, but to deter their use.
The TU-22M Backfire bomber and the AS6 was the real “carrier killer”, making the survival of aircraft carriers problematic in even strictly conventional warfare scenarios with a saturation attack.
You have to admit though, the Moskva is a beautiful ship. Russians made attractive warships, especially their cruisers.
People that don't like CVNs speak of them as floating in the middle of the shooting, all alone. Couldn't be any further from the truth. Some say CVNs have not been tested in a close-in shooting match. By design, of course not. They project power from a distance while being defended by formidable air, surface and subsurface assets.
As for their “viability”, in the last 40 years there has hardly been major military action anywhere on the planet that has not included a CVN. There are a lot of US presidents that would attest to their viability. Not many foreign terrorists and dictators though, since many of them are dead.
7 Days in May
ASROC - nuclear capable anti sub rocket. We had 13 of them on our Adams Class DDG back in the 80’s. They could theoretically be used to sink most of a task force if said TF was in tight formation
The Russians are probably sending a tug with it to tow it back home.
The Russian practice of “Hang a whole bunch of high explosive s**t off the side and hope no one shoots at it” is a weird strategy in 2013. You almost think the Chinese are laughing at them for that one.
A Somali in a skiff with an RPG could sink that boat.
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