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Leaving Town - Metro New York hemorrhaged $49 billion during the 2000s as residents sought...
City Journal ^ | NA | AARON M. RENN

Posted on 09/08/2013 11:20:36 AM PDT by neverdem

Metro New York hemorrhaged $49 billion during the 2000s as residents sought opportunity elsewhere.

The New York metropolitan region is losing people. Though the region and New York City itself continue to grow overall because they have more births than deaths, the Census Bureau estimates that the metro area lost almost 2 million net domestic migrants during the 2000s; that is, 2 million more people left the area for other parts of America than moved there from other parts of America. The region offset part of that loss with a nation-leading net gain of more than 1.1 million international immigrants over the same period. But it wasn’t enough: the region’s total net loss of people to migration amounted to 858,000. And the trend has continued into the new decade, with the New York metro area hemorrhaging another 254,000 net domestic migrants since 2010, even as the economic downturn has slowed migration generally within the United States.

When people leave a city, they take their incomes with them, of course. The Internal Revenue Service lets us track the flight of income by publishing migration data based on tax returns. According to the IRS, metro New York suffered a net loss of 1.4 million domestic migrants between 2000 and 2010. (The IRS’s emigration tally is smaller than the census’s because not everyone files a return.) During the 2000s, domestic emigrants took $49 billion to other parts of the country. The cumulative loss, as the years pass and people keep heading for the exits, is staggering.

Many of these residents go to the Sunbelt. During the 2000s, the Miami metro area was the Number One destination for both New Yorkers and their income, sucking away more than 125,000 people over the decade and $6 billion worth of income. (Metro New York lost $14.8 billion in income to Florida as a whole, making it the top state in grabbing New York income.) Of the ten regions that attracted the most New Yorkers, four more were in the Sunbelt: Orlando, Atlanta, Tampa–Saint Petersburg, and Charlotte. New York also lost significant numbers of migrants to the nearby Poughkeepsie and Bridgeport metro areas, though these closer migrations are best understood as a type of far-flung suburbanization. The ten areas that attracted the most New York money included all of those five Sunbelt regions except Charlotte, while second and third place went to nearby Bridgeport–Stamford (home of wealthy, hedge-fund-dominated Greenwich) and Poughkeepsie.

Chart by Alberto Mena
Charts by Alberto Mena

Chart by Alberto Mena

Migratory patterns shifted over the course of the 2000s. During the first half of the decade, for example, more people left metro New York for California than for Texas, but from 2005 on, Texas overtook California. Still, more New York income continues to flow to California than to Texas. Taken together, those statistics suggest that the dysfunctional Golden State, even though it’s losing migrants to its booming Lone Star competitor, can still attract those with higher incomes.

Again, the New York region attracts far fewer domestic migrants than it loses. But its prime sources of new residents are heartland regions like Chicago (the leading net exporter of people to the New York metro area), Detroit, Pittsburgh, and St. Louis. Also high on the list are such college towns as Ann Arbor, Michigan; Lexington, Kentucky; Bloomington, Indiana; and State College, Pennsylvania—presumably because many of their residents come to work in the Big Apple after graduating.

Certain regions don’t figure prominently in the net-migration rankings because inflow and outflow between them and New York are relatively balanced. Yet in some cases, very high numbers of people are moving between the two regions. For instance, the Boston metro area attracted only 2,800 net migrants from the New York area during the 2000s, but over the same period, a whopping 160,000 people either moved from Boston to New York or from New York to Boston. Similarly, 111,000 people moved between New York and the Bay Area in California, even though the former lost only 8,100 net migrants to the latter. High “circulation rates” like these are nothing to worry about. In the interconnected, talent-driven global economy, intense circulation between places like New York and San Francisco is key to the vibrancy of human-capital networks.

Nor are New York’s migration woes a problem for the country as a whole. After all, the region continues to take in immigrants from abroad, turn them into Americans, and send them to other places. In much the same way, it takes in young, relatively untrained singles and sends out skilled workers, often with families. One can therefore view New York as a gigantic refinery of the nation’s human capital.

But the high net outflow of people from the New York metro area bodes ill for the region’s future, as it represents a huge drain of spending power and a diminution of the tax base. People are voting with their feet to leave New York. Some may move for retirement to warmer climes, but others are doubtless leaving for a lower cost of living and lower tax rates. New York is losing out, and there’s much work to do in fixing the policies that drive up its costs and taxes.

Aaron M. Renn is an urban analyst, consultant, and publisher of the urban policy website The Urbanophile.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Connecticut; US: New York
KEYWORDS: connecticut; newyork; newyorkcity

1 posted on 09/08/2013 11:20:36 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Half of them are in North Carolina. Still dumb as hell.


2 posted on 09/08/2013 11:22:38 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: neverdem

The migratory shift to upstate areas like Poughkeepsie coincided with the depressed real estate values as a result of IBM’s initial downsizing and the terror attack of 9/11/2001.


3 posted on 09/08/2013 11:26:32 AM PDT by wtd
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To: neverdem
Almost a fifth of the money went to Forida; unfortunately, those are probably hardened Democrats.

New York's loss is Florida's loss.

4 posted on 09/08/2013 11:35:22 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: neverdem

You can walk around Central Park for an hour and not hear any English. NY is a waste of time and money.


5 posted on 09/08/2013 11:41:39 AM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: neverdem

“Though the region and New York City itself continue to grow overall because they have more births than deaths,”

Are the most popular names on those new birth certificates Mohammed, Pedro and Travon?


6 posted on 09/08/2013 11:58:35 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: neverdem

yaaayyyyy!!! they’re not moving to Texas... now if we can just keep the libs from moving to Austin we’d be fine.


7 posted on 09/08/2013 12:06:29 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: neverdem

and if you thin k it’s BAD now..just wait until 4 years of the next mayor..


8 posted on 09/08/2013 12:12:41 PM PDT by ken5050 (According to Dick Lugar, I'm a "random outlier." Woo Hoo!!!!)
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To: neverdem

Commies from Neu Yuk Sh*ty hsve been moving to Florida for generations. They brought education and money, which was good.

They also saw Florida as Neu Yuk Sh*ty South, but with palm trees instead of muggers. Like the Libtards Goldwater spoke about, what the immigrant Neu Yukers “actually knew” was less damaging than what they “knew that was not so”.

IMHO, neither Liberals nor non-property owners should be allowed to vote.

Oh, yeah - add to that “No Vote” list most of my co-religionists because they really, really do believe “With my guilt and your gelt (money) we can do great things.”

Lastly, Neu Yukers tend to support the Queers, despite a substantial percentage being Jews with a specific prohibition against “Queer Nation”.

The result has been Key West and South Beach.

Bah! Humbuggery!


9 posted on 09/08/2013 12:21:12 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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To: neverdem

My son was in a competition at a high school in a nothern suburb of Atlanta. It might as well have been a borough of New York. I’ll never understand why they have to mangle English so loudly.


10 posted on 09/08/2013 12:26:46 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I love it when spell check highlights every single word.)
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To: neverdem

Paging Snake Plissken. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.


11 posted on 09/08/2013 12:32:10 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
The NYC Council has been redistricted.

It's one more time for the old lever machines in Tuesday's primary.

http://nyc.pollsitelocator.com/Search.aspx

De Blasio is running a racist campaign: Bloomberg

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

12 posted on 09/08/2013 12:51:52 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Paging Snake Plissken.

Did we blow up the bridges to Manhattan, fill it with violent criminals and drop the president in the middle?

13 posted on 09/08/2013 12:54:27 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I love it when spell check highlights every single word.)
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To: neverdem

I love how they try to spin it to the positive that the losses were offset by international immigrants instead of using the term parasites. Rest assured that is exactly what they are. New York is headed down the crapper faster and faster everyday.


14 posted on 09/08/2013 1:38:24 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks neverdem.


15 posted on 09/08/2013 2:59:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: neverdem

So, when’s the wall going up on the west side of the Hudson?


16 posted on 09/08/2013 3:51:34 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: neverdem

It isn’t hard to guess that many of these migrating citizens are high-earners, looking for a better living environment and lower taxes.

Voting with their feet.


17 posted on 09/08/2013 4:58:45 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: GladesGuru

hehe


18 posted on 09/08/2013 5:41:31 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 09/08/2013 8:13:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Carry_Okie

Yep, it’s like a cancer spreading into the entire body.


20 posted on 09/10/2013 2:44:13 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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