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Obama administration had restrictions on NSA reversed in 2011
The Washington Post ^ | Ellen Nakashima

Posted on 09/08/2013 6:59:34 AM PDT by originalbuckeye

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To: butterdezillion; LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; ...

“April 20 and 22nd, 2011 was when the Obama regime requested the ban to be lifted.

“The big thing in the news was Donald Trump saying Obama should release his birth certificate. April 22nd was the day that Obama requested a copy of his BC. That is what was on his mind at that time.”

That and:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2708385/posts

“Amazon’s Number One Seller: Where’s the Birth Certificate?”

Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:44:46 AM by frankenMonkey


61 posted on 09/08/2013 5:46:25 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Yes. We know what was on Obama’s mind between April 13th and April 20th, 2011, when the NSA and FBI decided they wanted to change from what they had submitted to the FISA court just a week earlier.


62 posted on 09/08/2013 5:53:31 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion
Your statements and questions posed in post #55 IMHO are valid and should be addressed. But in government, who is willing to take on such a task.
I lack the trained skill sets on these type of things to guide anyone in even approaching a definitive answer to what you ask.
I often refer in my mind to many things brought out in say the book None Dare Call It Conspiracy, as how both International banking systems, and the otherwise powerful in Europe and the USA primarily allowed so many things to be carried out, with a total snow job on the populations.
How so called Capitalist could in essence support a Communist Revolution etc..
So many things are not what they appear to be within the public domain.
Sorry my short rant does not address with some meaningful response what you hope some may be able to at least partially unravel.
63 posted on 09/08/2013 6:13:11 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: butterdezillion

I’m trying to figure out what exactly might have triggered this - if there was some specific event, or if the pressure was just building to a point where they knew they had to do something about it.

On April 11, 2011, Michael Issikof reported on his interview with Fukino, and it raised more questions than it answered - what with Fukino’s tortured wording and saying that the BC was “half written, half typed”. I’m wondering if they watched the public response to that and realized within that week that the interview wasn’t working - that Trump and Corsi had raised a valid point about him hiding his BC.

Something occurred to me just now. I bet they wanted to be able to monitor in real time the people who knew what had happened, so they could make sure any emails or calls about it were intercepted and/or ended. I’d bet money that Alvin Onaka and the HDOH’s phone lines and emails were being monitored in real time.

Once a certification is submitted to the FISA court, the regime can act as if it was approved, based on supposed national security needs, as soon as the judge acknowledges that there is a national security interest.

Obama personally wrote a letter requesting his BC on Friday the 22nd; I believe the plan was to present it on the morning of the following Wed so that he could gloat about it with Oprah in front of the low-information voters that afternoon. So they needed to have the judge give them the nod by Monday, when Onaka would be brought in to photocopy the BC in front of Fuddy. That’s when Onaka could be dangerous to them.

I wonder when the judge agreed that they could use this certification while it was being considered by the court.


64 posted on 09/08/2013 6:17:56 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion
A quick addition to my response to what you asked in post #55. Specific to the possibility of the North Korean's setting up a orbiting nuclear device, where it could be detonated over some area of the USA.
Food for thought perhaps that may be a valid point. And beyond that, I am not prepared to go into a long debate.

The Chinese need the USA in tack and in the mode to continue to support their economic growth. That is a no brainer.
Would the Chinese give the NORC permission to screw things up over here, with a EMP attack.
They need us more then we need them from an economic view point. And they have quite a bit invested in the USA in T notes, and other investment derivatives.
That is partly why I hesitate to discuss things of this nature.
65 posted on 09/08/2013 6:22:31 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Marine_Uncle

What you’ve said is exactly what I’m thinking. With this compromised system, who would ever investigate and stop this before America was already attacked? Heck, Congress has issued subpoenas and still can’t find out anything; they don’t have the balls to charge people with contempt of Congress so the players know this is serious.

People tend to think that conspiracies are a far-out theory. The Founding Fathers believed that conspiracies are INEVITABLE when there is no accountability. At this point there is no accountability. We all know it. If the Founding Fathers were right, and absolute power yields absolute corruption, then it is CERTAIN that bad stuff is happening. So who wants bad stuff happen on this scale? Crooks are looking out for themselves. So who would be working actively to destroy this country?

We’ve got 2 sworn enemies who have boasted that they would destroy us from within: communists and Islamists - the very people Obama has surrounded himself with his entire life long, and the very people who are benefitting from everything this regime has done.

At this point I wonder if all that’s left is for us is to be as prepared as we can be for an attack from our own government, even if under the camouflage of North Korea or Iran. Unless the military leadership bucked the chain of command and actually DID protect and defend this country and her Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, nothing else would be in time to stop what’s been in the works since at least 2006.

(Incidentally, I’m still trying to get time to read Kevin Freeman’s book about the 2008 run on the bank; from what I’ve read about it, he suggests that it could be Islamists, communists, or an alliance of the 2).


66 posted on 09/08/2013 6:27:04 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: Seizethecarp

Thanks. Particularly with this cabal in D.C. I don’t believe in coincidences...


67 posted on 09/08/2013 6:39:52 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: butterdezillion

NORKS are noted for mini subs torpedoing boats, rockets that aren’t that accurate, hungry people and crazy leaders.

And we could easily Nukem from Orbit. Right of the face of the earth.

Power grids? Yes, they could be damaged. But, I am convinced the threat is not as big as it is described. Will Freep mail you on that.


68 posted on 09/08/2013 6:40:42 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: butterdezillion
BZ. I do not put my faith in the works of men. However, even so, Thomas Paine wrote on December 23, 1776...
"THESE are the times that try men's souls." ... are as appropriate in all ways for those that love freedom and a how should I say....a Christian, Godly world today as some way back when yearned in their hearts to see likewise come to past.

Try to let your heart be not troubled beyond your level of health. Do your best in sharing information and concerns and do put your soul in HIS almighty Hands. Without getting literally sick over all we see coming to past.
With that I bear thee well. Do have a pleasant upcoming day if possible. I must log off and get some sleep so I can go to the dentist tomorrow and hear him say, now this needle won't hurt a bit.....
69 posted on 09/08/2013 7:04:38 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Marine_Uncle

The New Testament lesson in church today was about not worrying because God clothes the lilies of the field and feeds the sparrows and we are of much more value than they are. It was a well-timed reminder that my life isn’t in the government’s hands, or even my own. My times are in HIS hands, and the hands that would take the nails for me always WILL be looking out for me. The direct contrast to the worldly people who make promises only to exploit those entrusted to their care. They are the bad shepherds but I’ll be OK as long as I have my Good Shepherd. And I do, because nothing and nobody can ever take Him away from me.

Sleep well. I hope the dentist visit tomorrow won’t be too miserable for you. =)


70 posted on 09/08/2013 7:39:40 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: butterdezillion

Wasn’t Lamberth the judge that kept any challenges about Obama from anyone going anywhere?


71 posted on 09/08/2013 9:14:13 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

He was one of them. He dismissed one of Orly’s cases because she didn’t properly redact Obama’s social security number. At the time Orly said that the clerk had butchered her filing.

Interesting now, that Lamberth has had to say that his clerks butchered the docket filings for his ruling on the FBI’s warrant for James Rosen’s emails and phone calls...

Seems like those clerks’ “mistakes” always seem to favor Obama’s thug regime. Funny how that happens...


72 posted on 09/08/2013 9:33:51 PM PDT by butterdezillion (,)
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To: originalbuckeye

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73 posted on 09/08/2013 9:42:46 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: butterdezillion

Lamberth is one of the cabal that should be high on a list for serious punishment.


74 posted on 09/08/2013 9:48:58 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: butterdezillion
Good for you dear true patriot, and true follower in Christ Jesus. I ended up due to many emails from people, did not hit the rack earlier on, and then came back to this site.
I'm pleased to see the response you gave. Our good Shepard shall never abandon us, as you ably affirmed. HE is the real thing.
Thanks for your concern about my Monday visit to the dentist. HE will bring me through it all. You take care as well. Rest gently in HIS care.
75 posted on 09/08/2013 10:11:10 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: null and void

I won’t berate you.

But, you know :)


76 posted on 09/09/2013 3:58:31 AM PDT by upchuck (The nobama regime: a string of omnishambles that stretches, seemingly, to infinity.)
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To: originalbuckeye
And even with this enhanced surveillance, this admin was still unable to connect the dots on the Boston Marathon bombers!

Despite being tipped off by Russia on more than one occasion, and a multitude of anti-American/pro-Islamic posts on the social media sites frequented by the brothers Tsarnaev.

77 posted on 09/09/2013 5:54:55 AM PDT by mellow velo (Oxymorons: jumbo shrimp, rap music, liberal think-tank)
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To: Nachum; Impy; stephenjohnbanker

This should be big.


78 posted on 09/09/2013 6:15:50 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: slowhandluke

“It’s just another clue as to the unity of thought of the national Republicans and Democrats.”

They are all in it together. The RNC is just a false sense
of opposition to the communist takeover of the U.S. Bush Sr.
Clinton, Bush Jr. and twinkle toes are all part of the plot
for a New World Order, one world communist government.


79 posted on 09/09/2013 6:29:02 AM PDT by Slambat
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To: upchuck

Yeah. Funny thing, I knew it was going, so I bought the 1T drive and backed up everything.

Then I put the drive in a drawer in the warm and fuzzy knowledge that I’d just backed up everything...


80 posted on 09/09/2013 7:26:31 AM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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