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U.S. Payroll to Population Rate Drops to 43.7% in August: Unadjusted unemployment climbs to 8.7%
Gallup ^ | 5 Sep 13 | Jenny Marlar

Posted on 09/05/2013 6:10:07 AM PDT by xzins

The U.S. Payroll to Population employment rate (P2P), as measured by Gallup, dropped to 43.7% in August, from 44.6% in July, and is down from 45.3% in August 2012.

Gallup's P2P metric estimates the percentage of the U.S. adult population aged 18 and older who are employed full time by an employer for at least 30 hours per week. P2P is not seasonally adjusted.

August marks the seventh month this year that the P2P rate failed to improve over the same month in 2012. In fact, so far this year, P2P has declined an average of 0.3 percentage points in terms of monthly year-over-year changes.

Unemployment Rises to 8.7% in August

Gallup's unadjusted unemployment rate for the U.S. workforce was 8.7% in August, up from 7.8% in July and from 8.1% in August 2012. Similar to P2P, unemployment fluctuates seasonally, and the year-over-year change is the most informative comparison. The uptick in unemployment this August compared with August of last year is the first year-over-year increase since Gallup was able to begin tracking yearly changes in 2011.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; obamanomics; u3
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To: dforest

As long as we are going to celebrate pre-Obama numbers, can’t we just go back to the pre-Obama President?


21 posted on 09/05/2013 6:50:55 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle

No, your heart is supposed to palpitate for Cankles Clinton next.

She will fix it alright.


22 posted on 09/05/2013 6:52:39 AM PDT by dforest
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To: DownInFlames

However, they say to track whether that’s a legitimate drop you look at last year’s numbers, same time, to see what you see.

Last August was 45.3; this August is 43.7. So, it really is dropping.

Also, it’s my sense that we’re not yet out of harvest time. They won’t be really letting go for another month.


23 posted on 09/05/2013 6:53:55 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: dforest
Not even Bill's heart palpitates for Cankles.

Huma on the other hand.....

If my heart ever palpitates for Hitlery, I'll rip it out with my bare hands.

24 posted on 09/05/2013 6:54:58 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Uncle Miltie

You’ve really got to quit being logical.

It will ruin your breakfast. :>)


25 posted on 09/05/2013 6:55:27 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
ADP numbers are highly volatile. More analysis of the ADP number here:

ADP Payrolls 176K, Small Miss, Pace Of Increase Broken For First Time Since April

BLS numbers are less volatile but subject to significant manipulation (seasonality, birth/death, outright lies, etc.).

I have to think Gallup's numbers are probably the most accurate. The "Payroll to Population" number is one-step a better metric than BLS' Labor Force Participation Rate, and is telling.

All of the numbers show an early slowdown in employment. The drop off usually occurs in October, not August.

We are in a period like the 1930s and 1970s. Lost decades where slow economic growth means the economy never returns to its earlier levels.

26 posted on 09/05/2013 7:00:15 AM PDT by magellan
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To: Texas Eagle

LOL


27 posted on 09/05/2013 7:06:14 AM PDT by dforest
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To: xzins

We will get some idea tomorrow.


28 posted on 09/05/2013 7:06:40 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: Perdogg

The administration is so sinister, perdogg, that I’ll not be surprised if Obama’s BLS says UE3 drops again to 7.3.

Then we’ll get to decide who is the liar: Gallup or Obama.


29 posted on 09/05/2013 7:11:02 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

That is a possibility since you are posting that the LP Rate has dropped. The numbers will come under scrutiny tomorrow, as they always do.


30 posted on 09/05/2013 7:15:45 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cruz-Paul 2016)
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To: xzins

Bush’s fault.


31 posted on 09/05/2013 7:20:48 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: Perdogg
The numbers will come under scrutiny tomorrow, as they always do.

Not by the state run media. Top of the hour abc radio news reported "strong growth numbers for august."

32 posted on 09/05/2013 7:45:28 AM PDT by quimby
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To: outpostinmass2

What did you expect, government has taxed, regulated or sued every business out of the country where are people suppose to work?


33 posted on 09/05/2013 8:00:07 AM PDT by edcoil (System now set up not to allow some to win but for no one to lose!)
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To: xzins

One of the advantages of advancing years is to be able to see that the idiocy will not end within your lifetime, so you take stupidity and tragedy with a grain of salt.

I live well. Other people are completely F’ed up.


34 posted on 09/05/2013 8:20:07 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Are Marines required to salute Al Qaeda yet?)
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To: xzins

The Obama bootlickers will say that this is all George Bush’s fault. He messed the economy up so bad that not even The One can fix it, so unemployment and underemployment is the new norm.


35 posted on 09/05/2013 8:31:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well, it’s evident everywhere you go. People are just off, during the middle of the day, in hordes. All out shopping, hanging out ...no one seems to work ever.


36 posted on 09/05/2013 8:54:36 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Uncle Miltie

+1


37 posted on 09/05/2013 9:49:42 AM PDT by LurkingSince1943 (Former War Criminal)
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To: xzins

Throw in wine and bread and you’ve just described Europe.


38 posted on 09/05/2013 11:05:07 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: magellan

“-—like the 30’s and 70’s——” Yeah, in terms of the big numbers that’s about right. But this time the causes are different. Modernization/mechanization/high speed manufacturing are going to take a generation of underskilled/under-educated people out of the workforce. There are only 12 million of us left who actually make a product. And we’re taking jobs back from China with machinery, not cheap labor. I’ve said for a couple decades that we are headed for a 90/10 economy and that’s going to last until the 90% realize they have to get themselves into the 21st century. Example: Just yesterday auto sales were reported up. But leases were up far more than purchases. That’s pathetic because it points to a time when most folks won’t even own their own dam smokemobiles.


39 posted on 09/05/2013 11:18:26 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: xzins

Wow, 0bummer recovery in full swing.


40 posted on 09/05/2013 11:32:16 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” John Wayne)
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