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NYT: Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West
NYTimes ^ | September 5, 2013 | C. J. CHIVERS

Posted on 09/05/2013 5:50:32 AM PDT by maggief

The Syrian rebels posed casually, standing over their prisoners with firearms pointed down at the shirtless and terrified men.

The prisoners, seven in all, were captured Syrian soldiers. Five were trussed, their backs marked with red welts. They kept their faces pressed to the dirt as the rebels’ commander recited a bitter revolutionary verse.

“For fifty years, they are companions to corruption,” he said. “We swear to the Lord of the Throne, that this is our oath: We will take revenge.”

The moment the poem ended, the commander, known as “the Uncle,” fired a bullet into the back of the first prisoner’s head. His gunmen followed suit, promptly killing all the men at their feet.

This scene, documented in a video smuggled out of Syria a few days ago by a former rebel who grew disgusted by the killings, offers a dark insight into how many rebels have adopted some of the same brutal and ruthless tactics as the regime they are trying to overthrow.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; rebels; syria

1 posted on 09/05/2013 5:50:32 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

NYT has it all wrong, John McCain told us these people were all moderates.


2 posted on 09/05/2013 5:51:57 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: maggief

Dilemma, perhaps, only to weak-minded liberals.

To the rest of us, Muzzies killing Muzzies is just fine, and none of our business.

Now, if Kerry-gigolo would like to stand between the two whilst they are firing...that would be superb!


3 posted on 09/05/2013 5:53:32 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: maggief
I don't see any "dilemma". We shouldn't be supporting the Syrian rebels. We shouldn't be taking sides in the conflict, at all.

The same goes for Egypt. And it should have been the same for Libya.

I agree with Sarah Palin: let Allah sort it out.

4 posted on 09/05/2013 5:55:10 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: af_vet_rr

Kerry: “There is a real moderate opposition that exists” ... only 15 percent to 20 percent are “bad guys”.


5 posted on 09/05/2013 5:55:36 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

Judas Priest how the hell did Pelosi get back in power


6 posted on 09/05/2013 5:59:11 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: maggief

The Syrian Rebels were the ones who cut out an ate a guys heart a few weeks back, right?

Just wondering


7 posted on 09/05/2013 6:02:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: maggief

Both sides suck. So why take sides?


8 posted on 09/05/2013 6:03:19 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: af_vet_rr
"John McCain told us these people were all moderates."

And besides that, George Bush said Islam is a religion of peace! (The muslims in this story must not be very religious.)

9 posted on 09/05/2013 6:06:38 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: maggief
I just watched a video of Syrian rebels sawing off 2 heads of soldiers for fun... And Obama wants us, our sons and daughters to spill their American blood for animals that WILL turn around and do the same to us. Obama and so called Congress can kiss my big American ass!  photo SPRING_zpscfed058d.jpg
10 posted on 09/05/2013 6:07:43 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: af_vet_rr

“NYT has it all wrong, John McCain told us these people were all moderates.”

Sadly...those are the moderates. Wait until you see the rest of them.


11 posted on 09/05/2013 6:21:37 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: maggief
That has raised the prospect that American military action could inadvertently strengthen Islamic extremists and criminals

Inadvertently?

12 posted on 09/05/2013 6:24:43 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

I know right!


13 posted on 09/05/2013 6:25:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: maggief

Wow, first Reuters and now even the New York Times dares to question the Obama Admin’s “rebels-are-the-good-guys” narrative.

Looks like Obama and Kerry both stepped in a big steaming pile of dogcrap this time!


14 posted on 09/05/2013 6:25:07 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Speaking of Reuters...

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Syria_9?

Secretary of State John Kerry’s claim that moderate groups are growing in influence among the opposition contradicts the findings of intelligence sources and experts:

At congressional hearings this week, while making the case for President Barack Obama’s plan for limited military action in Syria, Kerry asserted that the armed opposition to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad “has increasingly become more defined by its moderation, more defined by the breadth of its membership, and more defined by its adherence to some, you know, democratic process and to an all-inclusive, minority-protecting constitution.

“And the opposition is getting stronger by the day,” Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Tuesday.

U.S. and allied intelligence sources and private experts on the Syrian conflict suggest that assessment is optimistic.

While the radical Islamists among the rebels may not be numerically superior to more moderate fighters, they say, Islamist groups like the al Qaeda-aligned Nusra Front are better organized, armed and trained.

by Clare Richardson 8:19 AM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/05/us-syria-crisis-usa-rebels-idUSBRE98405L20130905


15 posted on 09/05/2013 6:29:35 AM PDT by maggief
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To: af_vet_rr

Read the comments. They are universally opposed to warring on Assad.


16 posted on 09/05/2013 6:29:44 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: maggief

Our lovely allies, Al Qaeda!


17 posted on 09/05/2013 6:34:17 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Are Marines required to salute Al Qaeda yet?)
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To: maggief

If the Obama admin loses the NYT, they lost it all.


18 posted on 09/05/2013 6:35:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: maggief

Is the Gray Lady’s support for US involvement in Syria slipping?


19 posted on 09/05/2013 6:45:43 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: maggief

Funny, but I don’t recall the NYSlimes wringing its hands over the brutality of the animals that murdered four Americans in Benghazi.


20 posted on 09/05/2013 6:46:20 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: baddog 219

There ae other reports of rebels murdering many, many civilians just because they were of the “wrong” religion.


21 posted on 09/05/2013 6:50:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: af_vet_rr

I think it is interesting the scuttlebutt about the Saudis pushing this whole thing.

The Saudi influence looks to be stronger than we realize, but with the amount of oil money they have, they certainly have influence.

I have been watching who is lining up to support this fiasco and to me it appears that those are the bought and paid for politicians.

Those for this mess are not friends of America or our the constitutional liberties. Strange how it is all the usual suspects supporting this mess.


22 posted on 09/05/2013 6:58:29 AM PDT by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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To: af_vet_rr

A moderate Muslim is one that humanely shoots you in the head BEFORE he cuts your chest open and eats your heart.


23 posted on 09/05/2013 7:28:00 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the people. T Jefferson)
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To: af_vet_rr

Yeah, this is how my pastor treats newcomers as well...convert, or a bullet in the head, thanking God. < / sarcasm >


24 posted on 09/05/2013 7:43:51 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: maggief

When there are no good guys in a fight, and there is no gain or advantage to be had by participating, why not STAY THE HELL OUT?


25 posted on 09/05/2013 8:40:31 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: vmivol00
Sadly...those are the moderates. Wait until you see the rest of them.

You are literally correct. This article features government troops being summarily executed by the moderates (i.e. non jihadists). Here's a passage on what motivates these particular moderate non-jihadist Sunni Arabs:

But, they said, one of his tactics has been to promise to his fighters what he calls “the extermination” of Alawites — the minority Islamic sect to which the Assad family belongs, and which Mr. Issa blames for Syria’s suffering.

26 posted on 09/05/2013 9:41:00 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: maggief

This article has been everywhere and obamabots are in despair that the truth is getting out.


27 posted on 09/05/2013 9:41:35 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave ofo attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: maggief

War crimes are being committed under our noses by the presumed allies - the Muslim Jihadic psychopaths. This is pathetic. Aiding and abetting war crimes. Mcstain and Obambee should be on an indictment somewhere.


28 posted on 09/05/2013 10:22:02 AM PDT by Lent
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To: maggief

Not even the New York Times backs Obama on this one. Excellent news.


29 posted on 09/05/2013 12:47:40 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: maggief
Kerry: “There is a real moderate opposition that exists” ... only 15 percent to 20 percent are “bad guys”.

Where is he getting these numbers from? Oh, that's right, he just made them up.

30 posted on 09/05/2013 12:48:43 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: justlurking
I don't see any "dilemma". We shouldn't be supporting the Syrian rebels. We shouldn't be taking sides in the conflict, at all. The same goes for Egypt. And it should have been the same for Libya.

In Egypt, the US had good cause to support Mubarak against the protestors, and we have good cause to support the Egyptian Army now. The alternative to the Egyptian army running things is having a Muslim-brotherhood run Egypt.

In Libya and Syria, the situation is more murky because unlike Mubarak and his officers, Assad and Gaddafi are/were anti-American in their rhetoric (though both have cooperated with the US strategic aims in the past - Assad's father supported us during the first Gulf War, Gaddafi was working with the CIA to destroy Al Quaeda cells in Libya). Nevertheless, I still fail to see the wisdom in working to overthrow secular dictators and replacing them with Islamists or with the anarchy of sectarian strife.

31 posted on 09/05/2013 1:01:51 PM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: rbg81
Both sides suck. So why take sides?

Agreed, It is a Civil War. No one is striking externally (at least not yet, or that I know of), so anyone externally that wants to take sides also want a piece of the misery of that war and or has an interest in defeating the other side. The People of the US have no interest in anything either side in this war has, nor do we wish the misery of this war. It would appear that only our rouge Government has a hidden interest in this.

It seems that our Government is no longer of the people, by the people, for the people. Perhaps Washington is a better place for a "limited strike" of the people, by the people, for the people.

32 posted on 09/05/2013 2:12:40 PM PDT by thegrump
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To: rbg81
Both sides suck. So why take sides?

Hussein Obama supported Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

Hussein Obama supported and armed Al Qaeda in Libya. US weapons were used to kill Americans in Benghazi.

Hussein Obama removed US troops in Iraq. Iraq is now under relentless bombing attacks by the Muzzie terrorists.

Hussein now wants to arm and aid Al Qaeda in Syria.

Will you finally get it when Hussein Obama's Muslim terrorist buddies start killing your family and friends here in America?

33 posted on 09/05/2013 3:14:36 PM PDT by politicianslie (Most Americans can't even recognize massive election fraud. Our first Muslim President laughs at you)
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