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To: Kaslin
Here is a DOCTRINE that every Conservative should adopt:

America should only use her Military power in hostilities when threatened or attacked or when a trusted ally is threatened or attacked. A formal Declaration of War should be passed as soon as practicable and once hostilities start, America should fight an all out war until our enemies are vanquished. We are not the UN’s or World's police force. Attacking America or her allies should be seen as signing a death warrant to all those that wish us harm.


2 posted on 09/05/2013 3:57:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

add when we intend to wipe out their entire military to boot.

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The Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted 10-7 this afternoon to approve a resolution authorizing President Obama to use military force against Syria in response to President Bashar Assad’s suspected chemical-weapons attack on civilians last month.

But the rushed vote reportedly broke Senate rules for moving legislation through the committee process. According to The Daily Beast, a senior GOP Senate aide called it “a rush to war behind closed doors,” adding:

“We were told there was a need to have a thoughtful and public debate about how this nation goes to war, but this seems to be about simply getting a resolution done to cover the President.”

Today’s actions allow for a vote by the full Senate as soon as Wednesday and enable the Democrat-controlled “upper chamber” to pass a war resolution before the House can write and pass one of its own.

Moments after the vote, Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on the Middle East, told FOX News that when Representatives return to Capitol Hill next week, Obama’s plan will likely by-pass committee and move directly to the chamber floor for a vote.

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From the Rose Garden on Saturday, President Obama said, “While I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization ... I’m asking Congress to send a message to the world that we are ready to move forward together as one nation.”

But our “Radical-in-Chief” has it wrong ... again. According to Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 of the U.S. Constitution, “Congress shall have the power ... to declare war.”

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BTW cry baby only uses a answering machine which is ALWAYS FULL! He does not want to hear from us SERFS.

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To: LibLieSlayer

I would say that your part about fighting an all out war until our enemies are vanquished is unrealistic at times. In the sense that few times in history do we have the scenario of our enemies formally surrendering such as Japan and Germany at the end of WWII. We are dealing with non state actors now as our enemies. When we have that scenario, what constitutes vanquishing our enemies? Killing the head of the enemy is very difficult and tricky indeed. It also may not end the threat as someone else could simply take over the non state organization.

No, the answer to this is have clearly defined objectives and when those objectives are accomplished, then victory can be declared. Fighting an all out war until our enemies are vanquished could be the objective, but it does not have to be. The correct statement should be to fight an all out war until our clearly defined objectives are met.

5 posted on 09/05/2013 4:41:34 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: LibLieSlayer
Well stated and I agree 100%.. We'd have a lot fewer dead young men who's familys miss them terribly. Only go to war when we are attacked, stop foreign aid to dictators stay the hell out of other countries business....we act like the nosy old cat lady that lives down the street and butts her nose into every ones business,,,,,,, softly and carry a big stick. I don't want the world to love us, we should mind our own business but let the rest of the world fear us. Fight when necessary, but fight to win....... World war 2 took less time them most of what we do today on others lands..

Remember that is what Jesus will do.

7 posted on 09/05/2013 4:49:22 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: LibLieSlayer

-——the president can’t decide on the real objective in Syria——

You speak of threats and attacks in the abstract and don’t list the actual extended list of threats and attacks. Your focus is too tight and fails to include the wider scope of reality.

America and allies, Israel and the GCC have received numerous threats and attacks beginning many years ago. The source is Iran, delivered by both Iran and it’s surrogates.

Syria is the present primary surrogate.

We have a security interest in the extermination of Assad and removal of surrogate status. When Syria goes, Hezbollah goes and Lebanon is once again free. Iran is weakened.

The problem is Obama is a chickenshit wimp unable to speak out against Iran and pull the triggers necessary to destroy Assad.

If the limited war destroys Assad, I’m all for it. If it merely hits a chemical weapons site that manufactures ibuprofen, then it is a profound waste of everything.

I’m told Senator Corker, McCain and others want war for this reason. I have my doubts, but he may know the extent of the unrevealed war plan.

12 posted on 09/05/2013 5:30:37 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Throughout human history, warfare has been a common method for governments to deal with the problem of large numbers of unemployed young men. Such things as the Vikings and the Crusades are some of the more famous examples, but there are dozens more. Some might even include WWII.

I totally agree with your proposed doctrine, but I don’t believe it will ever be followed by our Ruling Class overlords.

13 posted on 09/05/2013 6:14:18 AM PDT by EricT. (Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Big brother is watching you.)
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