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Russia releases key findings on chemical attack near Aleppo indicating similarity with rebel-made...
RT ^ | 9/4/2013 | RT

Posted on 09/04/2013 7:14:35 PM PDT by FR_addict

Probes from Khan al-Assal show chemicals used in the March 19 attack did not belong to standard Syrian army ammunition, and that the shell carrying the substance was similar to those made by a rebel fighter group, the Russian Foreign Ministry stated.

A statement released by the ministry on Wednesday particularly drew attention to the “massive stove-piping of various information aimed at placing the responsibility for the alleged chemical weapons use in Syria on Damascus, even though the results of the UN investigation have not yet been revealed.” ...

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: russia; syria
Interesting article from RT.com

Full title is: Russia releases key findings on chemical attack near Aleppo indicating similarity with rebel-made weapons

1 posted on 09/04/2013 7:14:35 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

This was the MARCH attack, not the more recent AUGUST attack.

Just FYI.


2 posted on 09/04/2013 7:15:57 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: FR_addict

So let’s see...we gave WMD to Saddam to war against Iran...Saddam gave WMD to Syria...now we’re going into Syria to get back our WMD.

Gotta be an easier way.


3 posted on 09/04/2013 7:18:25 PM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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To: gotribe

At least we made sure that Sadaam destroyed most of his stuff before we went in


4 posted on 09/04/2013 7:21:44 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: FR_addict
According to the article:
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on Tuesday said the UN investigators are set to return to Syria to investigate several other cases of alleged chemical weapons use, including the March 19 incident in Khan al-Assal.
5 posted on 09/04/2013 7:22:34 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Wonder who in the MSM will cover this acount?


6 posted on 09/04/2013 7:23:53 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: SoFloFreeper

“This was the MARCH attack, not the more recent AUGUST attack.”

That is in the first sentence of the article. Russia is making their case that the new incident is more likely to be the rebels, not the Syrian government.


7 posted on 09/04/2013 7:24:38 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: gotribe

At least we’re getting paid to do it this time. We used to do it for free, now we prostitute our military to the highest bidder in cases where no national interest exists.


8 posted on 09/04/2013 7:37:07 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
That's right!! And if we do it well maybe we can get a bonus that will pay off our debt.

This is what being in debt leads to internationally now. Prostituting out our military.

9 posted on 09/04/2013 7:40:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: 1010RD

Affirmative action grants aiming to subsidize the credibility of the one without any is not so free. He will barter us away for this “ice cream” or drug or blow job or what have you. He is a “ giver”


10 posted on 09/04/2013 7:54:24 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: gotribe

“So let’s see...we gave WMD to Saddam to war against Iran...Saddam gave WMD to Syria...now we’re going into Syria to get back our WMD.”

No, the US did not arm Iraq. The equipment Iraq used was either Russian or French. The US did arm Iran until the Shah was unseated after that the US did not sell weapons to Iran either. The truth is other than a few fighter planes and (I think) M-48 tanks obtained before the Shah was ousted the US did not arm either Iraq or Iran in the their war with each other.

Any WMD they had they made themselves or bought from France, China, North Korea or Russia not the US. The charge that US armed Iraq or Iran while often repeated is a cynical lie put out by the hard left.


11 posted on 09/04/2013 7:55:39 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Fai Mao

Bingo, during the Iraq-Iran war our support was logistical and support. Nothing more. I don’t recall any M1 Abrahms or M-16s or F-15s. It is the lie that keeps lying by the left assholes.


12 posted on 09/04/2013 8:14:45 PM PDT by crazydad (Obamamohamed is a traitor)
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To: 1010RD
At least we’re getting paid to do it this time.

Yeah, in Saudi laundered campaign contributions to DemoRat politicians.

13 posted on 09/04/2013 8:36:31 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: apocalypto
"Wonder who in the MSM will cover this account?"

I think I'm going to send articles like this to the city paper editor-in-chief and publisher (especially articles written by foreign press)

Probably won't do anything good, but I'll get it off my chest. <8:/

14 posted on 09/04/2013 9:12:58 PM PDT by hummingbird (Don't be afraid of the big words.)
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To: FR_addict

The Russian position is:

It’s PROVEN that the rebels have used gas, and Assad had no reason to use gas recently BECAUSE HE IS WINNING against the AQ rebels.

Obama position:
I don’ need no stinkin’ facts, America will be Al qaeda’s Air Force!


15 posted on 09/04/2013 9:22:25 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: crazydad

We did give Saddam a few helicopters, old, surplus UH-1’s. I believe we gave him 8 of them, via the French, who were the PRIMARY arms supplier for Iraq.

REALITY is so very different than Hollywood movies, isn’t it?
Yet, so many Americans “Know” the “Truth!”, because they saw it in a movie.


16 posted on 09/04/2013 9:28:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: gotribe
So let’s see...we gave WMD to Saddam to war against Iran...

??? Proof of *that* assertion? The *only* thing that was given to Saddam Hussein's Iraq by the US Government, to assist him in his fight with Iran, was some satellite imagery.

*We* never gave him any chemical, or biological weaponry, and anyone who asserts that we did is talking out their blowhole. We don't even have, to my best knowledge, a chemical, or biological offensive weapons program, as we don't need one, having nuclear capabilities...

the infowarrior

17 posted on 09/04/2013 9:38:57 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: FR_addict

The Syrian War: What You’re Not Being Told
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkamZg68jpk#t=947


18 posted on 09/04/2013 9:44:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: FR_addict
Interesting:

The hype around the alleged attack on the eastern Damascus suburb of Ghouta showed “apparent attempts to cast a veil over the incidents of gas poisoning of Syrian army soldiers on August 22, 24 and 25,” the ministry said, adding that all the respective evidence was handed to the UN by Syria.

The condition of the soldiers who, according to Damascus, suffered poisoning after discovering tanks with traces of sarin, has been examined and documented by the UN inspectors, the ministry pointed out, adding that “any objective investigation of the August 21 incident in eastern Ghouta is impossible without the consideration of all these facts.”

Seems like all the gas attacks are related?

19 posted on 09/04/2013 9:44:31 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Fai Mao

Silly person, facts and logic have no place in the decision which may or may not initiate THE WAR THAT REALLY ENDS ALL WARS!


20 posted on 09/04/2013 10:16:47 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: MarMema

WE should simply sell our military services to the highest bidder, whether the Assadis or Jihadis!

That’s how we get our deficit down.


21 posted on 09/04/2013 10:50:28 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

The money saved - if any - would be spent on other things. The deficit would not come down, instead, spending would be redirected to more boondoggles and bribes to favored groups from our increasingly fascistic government.


22 posted on 09/05/2013 1:17:21 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: FR_addict

“This was the MARCH attack, not the more recent AUGUST attack.”

That is in the first sentence of the article.

indeed.


23 posted on 09/05/2013 2:13:31 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: FR_addict

Sshhhh-—Can’t have the American people(or even the deaf, blind and dumb congressmen) know about this.


24 posted on 09/05/2013 4:03:35 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: crazydad; Fai Mao
Bingo, during the Iraq-Iran war our support was logistical and support. Nothing more.

Sorry, but it's well documented:

A review of thousands of declassified government documents and interviews with former policymakers shows that U.S. intelligence and logistical support played a crucial role in shoring up Iraqi defenses against the "human wave" attacks by suicidal Iranian troops. The administrations of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush authorized the sale to Iraq of numerous items that had both military and civilian applications, including poisonous chemicals and deadly biological viruses, such as anthrax and bubonic plague.

The website where this is posted is a bit sketchy, but it's a "reprint" of a Washington Post article from 2002. A few more interesting excerpts:

According to a sworn court affidavit prepared by [Howard Teicher, a former National Security Council official, who worked on Iraqi policy during the Reagan administration] in 1995, the United States "actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure Iraq had the military weaponry required." Teicher said in the affidavit that former CIA director William Casey used a Chilean company, Cardoen, to supply Iraq with cluster bombs that could be used to disrupt the Iranian human wave attacks. Teicher refuses to discuss the affidavit.

When United Nations weapons inspectors were allowed into Iraq after the 1991 Gulf War, they compiled long lists of chemicals, missile components, and computers from American suppliers, including such household names as Union Carbide and Honeywell, which were being used for military purposes.

A 1994 investigation by the Senate Banking Committee turned up dozens of biological agents shipped to Iraq during the mid-'80s under license from the Commerce Department, including various strains of anthrax, subsequently identified by the Pentagon as a key component of the Iraqi biological warfare program. The Commerce Department also approved the export of insecticides to Iraq, despite widespread suspicions that they were being used for chemical warfare.

I also remember watching a video of an instructor telling soldiers what to expect when they entered Iraq during the first Iraq war. He was showing them specific US weapons, identifying them as being sold to Iraq during the war with Iran.

We (or at least the US administration) screwed up by supporting Saddam. Rather than trying to admit it, or explain it away, we should be learning from it and stop supporting the "enemy of my enemy". A large part of our problem in the Middle East is because we have been siding with dictators when it was politically convenient.

The Middle East is never going to "like" us, due to our support of Israel. But, I'm fine with that, as long as they "respect" us. Unfortunately, the vacillating support of tinpot regimes by successive US administrations has undermined that.

25 posted on 09/05/2013 5:49:07 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking
A 1994 investigation by the Senate Banking Committee turned up dozens of biological agents shipped to Iraq during the mid-'80s under license from the Commerce Department, including various strains of anthrax, subsequently identified by the Pentagon as a key component of the Iraqi biological warfare program. The Commerce Department also approved the export of insecticides to Iraq, despite widespread suspicions that they were being used for chemical warfare.

And folks, that right there is exactly how we knew Sadaam Hussein had "weapons of mass destruction". No further evidence needed.

Where did they go when we couldn't find them?

Duh!

26 posted on 09/05/2013 6:04:32 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: hummingbird

Good idea. It is worth the effort.


27 posted on 09/05/2013 8:11:07 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: txrangerette

Yeah, I suppose it would all be eaten up by Our Leader’s next vacation expenses. Which should be coming up shortly, after he makes a couple more speeches that all the country’s problems are do to the Republicans not doing anything to support his jobs bill.


28 posted on 09/05/2013 8:59:08 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

bump


29 posted on 09/05/2013 9:01:13 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: gotribe
So let’s see...we gave WMD to Saddam to war against Iran...Saddam gave WMD to Syria...now we’re going into Syria to get back our WMD.

If what you say is true, the WMD has a longer shelf life than a Seinfeld episode.

30 posted on 09/05/2013 9:37:57 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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