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Justice Department asks court to fix "disparate" civil service exams for minority applicants
Post Standard: Syracuse NY ^ | John O'Brien

Posted on 09/04/2013 4:52:54 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

SYRACUSE, NY - The U.S. Department of Justice wants to reopen a 33-year-old court case to ensure that minority applicants get a fair shot at jobs as Syracuse firefighters and police officers.

Lawyers with the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division filed papers in federal court Friday challenging the state civil service tests that prospective firefighters and police officers must take.

A review by the Justice Department of entry-level exams for those jobs in Syracuse showed the exams "continue to have a statistically significant, disparate impact on African-American test-takers," the Justice Department's lawyers wrote in court papers.

The Justice Department asked U.S. District Judge David Hurd to reopen a 1980 court case over the city's hiring practices.

The Justice Department hired a human resources expert, David P. Jones, president of Growth Ventures Inc., to review the civil service exams. Among his findings was that the exams were "more likely to produce an adverse impact on ethnic minorities," court papers said.

The Justice Department asked the court to require the state's Department of Civil Service "to develop and institute lawful written examinations to be used in Syracuse's selection of entry-level firefighter and police officers."

Hurd will hear arguments on the request will Oct. 11.

City officials will join in the Justice Department's request, Mayor Stephanie Miner said today.

"For three decades the city has steadily made progress in assuring that the ranks of our police and fire departments more truly reflect all of Syracuse," Miner said in a news release. "An evaluation of the state Civil Service test would assure we have a fair test and the best pool of talent from which to hire."

The city maintains its hiring practices have met the goals of the consent decree, but "nonetheless welcomes this opportunity to improve the provisions of the consent decree to reflect current hiring conditions," Miner said.

When city officials settled a reverse discrimination lawsuit last year, they said they'd been talking with Justice Department officials about rewording the 1980 decree to ensure that black firefighters filled fill a higher proportion of supervisory positions.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: department; exam; fire; syracuse
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1 posted on 09/04/2013 4:52:54 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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Just score the tests “inversely”—the more incorrect answers the higher the score. That would allow Obama’s sons to be hired and promoted in greater numbers.


2 posted on 09/04/2013 4:56:59 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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the exams "continue to have a statistically significant, disparate impact on African-American test-takers," the Justice Department's lawyers wrote in court papers.

Maybe, just maybe, the tests are race-neutral and fair, and the African-American test-takers have some educational deficiencies that prevent them from doing as well on the tests as Caucasians and Asians.

3 posted on 09/04/2013 4:58:32 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ( July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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To: House Atreides

Hire the applicants for duty in Detroit


4 posted on 09/04/2013 4:58:53 PM PDT by shadeaud (Stay Thirsty My Friends)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

There is little left to protect.


5 posted on 09/04/2013 4:59:12 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So what makes the test too hard for ‘minorities’? Is he implying they are too stupid? That would be raciss, right?


6 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:01 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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If they had a test to see who was better at dunking a basketball, would the test be unfair if short, old, non-athletic Whites didn’t do as well as tall, young, athletic Blacks?


7 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:28 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ( July 4, 1776: Declaration of Independence. Nov 6, 2012: Declaration of Dependence. R.I.P. America.)
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America is becoming a nation of incompetent, stupid,
vicious, amoral, and lawless evil
... and increasingly without justice.

Just as Holder planned when he blew
up the President’s Office in Columbia, and then
dropped WMD on the children at WACO before burning
them alive.


8 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:45 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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lol

well.. if they are going to go after this... then they need to go after EVERY test ever made!

Because I have noticed a “disparate impact” on retarded test takers which must be addressed !

Why is it that retarded people always do so poorly on tests compared to others! I say it's those darn tests! that are obviously biased towards developmentally challenged individuals!

/s

9 posted on 09/04/2013 5:00:54 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Just Eric “the Red” Holder, takin care a hiz peeps.

Nuthin racist here, nuthin at all.


10 posted on 09/04/2013 5:01:10 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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Um... right.

I guess we’re supposed to believe that poor performance by minorities on standardized exams reflects a cultural bias of the exam, and is not a result of cultural influences that ostracize and punish achievers of certain races.

Instead of attacking the messenger (the exam that reveals cultural failure), why doesn’t the Justice department attack the culture that labels achievers as Uncle Toms and encourages laziness and failure?


11 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:05 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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Do they ask about applicants' "Race" on the Exam?

If not, then there is NO WAY they should have to lower standards to make the questions too easy to answer and be rendered a "rubber stamp" for un-qualified applicants.

12 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:30 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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No longer is there a baseline for competence or a certain level of competence as evidenced by education. Today, they are probably demanding that Certificates of Attendance rather than HS Diplomas be accepted....


13 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:42 PM PDT by Jumper
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These days diversity means anti-white racism. These phony dumbed-down exams are anti-white racism in action.


14 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:43 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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The new plan is called “QUOTAS” and has been ruled illegal. However, that has never stopped Obama and Holder from violating the law.

Article doesn’t say how many blacks/minorities have applied to be firefighters and how many have been hired

They can have DC’s black fire chief. Even his own people don’t want him.


15 posted on 09/04/2013 5:02:52 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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WHY even test them????


16 posted on 09/04/2013 5:03:25 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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ok, so they dumb the test down and then the non-minority test takers all get 100%'s and the minorities don't, then what???

quotas, that's what...

17 posted on 09/04/2013 5:05:48 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: House Atreides

Welfare, bastardy, drugs, black culture, and public education already had their “disparate impact”.

Unbiased tests just reveal that impact.

As would any reality based judgement.


18 posted on 09/04/2013 5:07:00 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Cram black misbehavior down their throats until they change.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So the test is in cursive?


19 posted on 09/04/2013 5:07:01 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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Don’t bother with the criminal background check either... especially for entry level police officer candidates. It’s racist! /s


20 posted on 09/04/2013 5:07:31 PM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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