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Justice Department asks court to fix "disparate" civil service exams for minority applicants
Post Standard: Syracuse NY ^ | John O'Brien

Posted on 09/04/2013 4:52:54 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

SYRACUSE, NY - The U.S. Department of Justice wants to reopen a 33-year-old court case to ensure that minority applicants get a fair shot at jobs as Syracuse firefighters and police officers.

Lawyers with the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division filed papers in federal court Friday challenging the state civil service tests that prospective firefighters and police officers must take.

A review by the Justice Department of entry-level exams for those jobs in Syracuse showed the exams "continue to have a statistically significant, disparate impact on African-American test-takers," the Justice Department's lawyers wrote in court papers.

The Justice Department asked U.S. District Judge David Hurd to reopen a 1980 court case over the city's hiring practices.

The Justice Department hired a human resources expert, David P. Jones, president of Growth Ventures Inc., to review the civil service exams. Among his findings was that the exams were "more likely to produce an adverse impact on ethnic minorities," court papers said.

The Justice Department asked the court to require the state's Department of Civil Service "to develop and institute lawful written examinations to be used in Syracuse's selection of entry-level firefighter and police officers."

Hurd will hear arguments on the request will Oct. 11.

City officials will join in the Justice Department's request, Mayor Stephanie Miner said today.

"For three decades the city has steadily made progress in assuring that the ranks of our police and fire departments more truly reflect all of Syracuse," Miner said in a news release. "An evaluation of the state Civil Service test would assure we have a fair test and the best pool of talent from which to hire."

The city maintains its hiring practices have met the goals of the consent decree, but "nonetheless welcomes this opportunity to improve the provisions of the consent decree to reflect current hiring conditions," Miner said.

When city officials settled a reverse discrimination lawsuit last year, they said they'd been talking with Justice Department officials about rewording the 1980 decree to ensure that black firefighters filled fill a higher proportion of supervisory positions.


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To: Behind Liberal Lines
On June 11 obamamugabe and Eric the red's Dept of Just Us sued Dollar General in an attempt to force the company to quit using criminal background checks during the hiring process because it had a "disparate effect on people of color".

At some point Dollar General in Dearborn had hired Lavere Bryant, an ex con with rape, home invasion and weapons convictions. He was eventually fired due to sexual harassment charges.

In July he went to another Dollar General, shot and killed employee Joseph Orlando. He then kidnapped Brenna Machus, raped her and shot her in the head.

Brenna and Joseph are White, Bryant is black.

41 posted on 09/04/2013 6:04:30 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
States raise privacy concerns over health law [ObamaCare] navigators (08/17/2013)
“Because of time constraints, HHS [is] cutting back on the requirement to become a navigator, meaning they're not going to be doing background checks. They're not going to be fingerprinting these people,” said [Florida Attorney General Pam] Bondi in an interview with Fox.

. . .

A navigator is a federal employee who helps those wanting to get insured navigate the paperwork of the new healthcare system.

“What if they've been convicted of committing identity theft or grand theft before?” asked Bondi. “They could potentially still become a navigator.”

Earlier this week, Bondi and a dozen other Republican state attorneys general sent HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius a letter calling her attention to this privacy issue and asking her to implement more stringent privacy requirements and safeguards. They’ve given Sebelius until Aug. 28 to respond.


42 posted on 09/04/2013 6:05:21 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; kingattax

Some New Sample Questions: (perhaps these will even things up a bit)

1. If a Baby Momma be boppin 2 bro, who B da Daddy?
2. A ebt can be swapped fo how much drank?
3. Translate this sentence:

Yo Bro Ho De Do Fo De Po Ho.

4. What is the correct way to hold a sidearm?
a. With Both hands, thumbs low
b. Sidewise

5. Describe the proper procedure for running away with your pants around your ankles.

6. The amount of butt crack that should be visible when properly attired should be:

a. Zero
b. two inches
c. The entire thang

7. Who is Bob Zimmerman?
a. A vicious murderer
b. a creepy ass cracka
c. A Folk Singer/Songwriter from the Midwest who went electric at the Newport Folk Festival, thus enraging Pete Seger, and changing rock music forever.
d. All of the above.

8. How many of the above questions are raciss?
a. Numbers 1.3,and 8
b. Number 7, choice b.
c. all of the above

9. When fighting a fire in a dense urban area, the best procedure in a commercial establishment would be:
a. Make sure all civilians are out of the store
b. Break plate glass windows to release smoke
c. Remove all the plasma wide screen HD TV’s for redistribution.


43 posted on 09/04/2013 6:06:41 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: left that other site

>>Yo Bro Ho De Do Fo De Po Ho.<<’

Threadwin! lol


44 posted on 09/04/2013 6:15:34 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. (Yogi Berra))
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To: exDemMom; All
Instead of attacking the messenger (the exam that reveals cultural failure), why doesn’t the Justice department attack the culture that labels achievers as Uncle Toms and encourages laziness and failure?

Because to do that they have to admit the existence of merit, objectivity, and reality.

They cannot do that, because if they do, their whole worldview, that made them very rich and very powerful by promoting these lies, is undercut.

So they cannot and they will not.

45 posted on 09/04/2013 6:16:40 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: DJ Taylor

“So what makes the test too hard for ‘minorities’?”
Maybe the tests are written in cursive.”

You owe me a keyboard!


46 posted on 09/04/2013 6:18:04 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: freedumb2003

Why Thank You! ;-)


47 posted on 09/04/2013 6:19:34 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: left that other site
Yo Bro Ho De Do Fo De Po Ho.

Hey Brother, hold the door for the poor woman.

Did I get it right?

48 posted on 09/04/2013 6:25:03 PM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: raybbr

Well Done!

You’re hired! :-)

Cut me some slack, jack!


49 posted on 09/04/2013 6:27:02 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know the Truth, and the Truth Shall Set You Free...John 8:32)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I sure MISREAD that headline.

I was sure it was going to refer to the direct discrimination of STRAIGHT, WHITE MALES, who are undoubtedly the largest minority in the Nation.


50 posted on 09/04/2013 6:30:47 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Did I read that right? Are they saying that ethnic minorities are too stupid to pass the tests?


51 posted on 09/04/2013 6:35:41 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Don't blame me for McCain.)
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To: Diogenesis
America is becoming a nation of incompetent, stupid, vicious, amoral, and lawless evil ... and increasingly without justice.

You are exactly right, and people voted for this (whether it was really enough people, is another question. But enough to make it possible for the cheating to put this criminal over the top). What are we going to do when Hussein and Holder want to destroy civilised America? His every action lately seems to be focussed on stirring up racial tension in any way possible, and ignoring the whole slew of real problems like the economy-or taking actions which further destroy it. I can't believe Obamacare is actually hanging over our heads like a sword. The GOP is fighting its own constituents to force through amnesty, and now we have to worry if they'll betray a majority of Americans-not just Republicans, but all Americans, and namely the troops-to put us into a "military action" at the side of our enemies!!! If I wasn't a pre-tribber, I'd be even more afraid right now, and don't think I'm not having doubts which I can't help on that version of eschatology. This evil evil evil man would be tailor-made to be the antichrist, wth someone smarter and even more evil than himself (!!!) pulling the strings.
52 posted on 09/04/2013 6:39:22 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Low IQs = low test scores.

Read “The Bell Curve”

It is all there.


53 posted on 09/04/2013 6:43:29 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: svcw
So the test is in cursive?

Heh... I guess they must have an old mimeograph machine that still works.

54 posted on 09/04/2013 7:04:19 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

You cannot fix stupid, Stupid is a low IQ in the brain,


55 posted on 09/04/2013 7:07:09 PM PDT by SADMILLIE (r)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Question #1: Can you read cursive?

Question #2: Can you read printing?

Question #3: Are you a minority?

33% is a passing grade.


56 posted on 09/04/2013 7:09:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
ensure that minority applicants get a fair shot at jobs as Syracuse firefighters and police officers

Translation: Force hirings of UNQUALIFIED applicants based on the color of their skin, not the content of their character (or anything else).

57 posted on 09/04/2013 7:11:09 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Recompennation

Clinton’s last year in office as governor of Arkansas he hired lots and lots of blacks to work for the state so he could say the number of people on welfare decreased while he was governor. I had occasion to call a child support office in Arkansas. I couldn’t understand what the woman was saying except that I knew she insulted me. I told her she should stop talking to people in Swahili. I could still hear her screaming in Swahili as I was hanging up.


58 posted on 09/04/2013 7:16:26 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Lancey Howard

Nah, you do not have to dumb the tests down just give the dumb butt crack showing blacks one question, “Are you a niggra? YES - NO.

If they answer yes they get a 100 and move ahead to have someone fill out their hiring papers because we know they are not capable of filling out them on their own.

If they answer NO, they get a 100 also because they cannot read and we gotta “curve” the test.

I am so sick of these whining black basturds. I used to not be racist, but these people in Washington have made me hate the black race in 5 years. Hell, I raised a young black male in my house because he did not have a “home” life. He still calls me on fathers day, holidays and my birthday. His son tells people I am his grandpa. I love them like they are my own blood but I have no use for the ones that try to hold me hostage because they are black ass niggers. Same goes for the white niggers.


59 posted on 09/04/2013 7:17:35 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This is nothing more than overt instutionalized racism.

Group B can’t pass the test, so change the test.


60 posted on 09/04/2013 7:18:59 PM PDT by citizen (There is always free government cheese in the mouse trap.....https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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