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Red lines: Obama's costly bluster (and blunder)
New Hampshire Union Leader ^ | Aug 31, 2013 | NH Union Leader Editorial Staff

Posted on 08/31/2013 6:07:42 PM PDT by Innovative

Last August, President Obama drew his line in the Syrian sand. "We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus. That would change my equation."

A year later two things are clear: 1) There was no equation; it was just Obama talking nonsense. 2.) He bluffed without a plan.

The United States of America has no business attacking Syria. Our national security is not at stake. The one and only reason we are on the verge of war is because the President thought it personally advantageous to rattle the sabers just before the 2012 election.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; france; israel; muslimbrotherhood; obama; russia; syria; terrorism; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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Where are the "peace demonstrations"?!

Where is Cindy Sheehan and her ilk?

1 posted on 08/31/2013 6:07:42 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

“According to the French academic Dominique Reynié, between January 3 and April 12, 2003, 36 million people across the globe took part in almost 3,000 protests against the Iraq war.[3]”

Wikipaedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War


2 posted on 08/31/2013 6:09:35 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

I’m guessing that he was off-teleprompter when he said this? Usually it’s just embarrassing. This time, dangerous.


3 posted on 08/31/2013 6:13:16 PM PDT by Rio
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To: Innovative

S’pose Barry will just have to, uh, recalibrate. Heh.


4 posted on 08/31/2013 6:19:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Innovative

Does anyone really think this dork could even spell 'calculus?'

5 posted on 08/31/2013 6:21:44 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Innovative
Undocumented Impostor on a girls bicycle:


6 posted on 08/31/2013 6:22:02 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

I love to compare this photo to the one of Putin riding a Harley.


7 posted on 08/31/2013 6:25:14 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: Innovative
In my mind, the (quite disturbing) situation in Syria is rather complicated.

There are no discernable "good guys" with whom to associate in Syria. Certainly, Bashar al-Assad is a very bad guy; but the rebel opposition--much of which is associated with al-Qaeda--does not impress me as the very apotheosis of democratic purity, either.

What complicates the matter, in my opinion, is the fact that President Obama--most unwisely, in my opinion--drew a "red line" about a year ago, as regarding the use (or even the movement) of chemical weapons. For the president to ignore his own "red line," I believe, would make America appear impotent and unserious; and that could have some very serious ramifications in the Middle East. One of those ramifications would be for Iran to interpret the inaction as a green light for it to proceed with its nuclear-weapons program.

In the end, therefore, I remain quite conflicted about this matter: As a matter of policy, I am not at all certain that America should be involved in a civil war in the Middle East that pits Syria, Iran, and Hezbollah (on one side) against elements of al-Qaeda (on the other side). We might very well help to topple one bad guy, only to wind up with an even worse result.

Yet I am also very concerned that if we do nothing at all, the US will no longer be taken seriously by either our allies or our enemies in the Middle East...

8 posted on 08/31/2013 6:38:17 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: Rio

IIRC , he was off prompter .


9 posted on 08/31/2013 6:39:26 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: Diogenesis

HILARIOUS!! Is that a girls bicycle?


10 posted on 08/31/2013 6:41:14 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: Innovative
The call on congress to vote is doing exactly what it was intended to do. It prevents a rush to judgement. Instead, we will be afforded time to investigate, learn, and make informed decisions.

It was bravado that caused the world to view us as this bugs bunny cartoon. I dare you to step over this line.... OK this line.

11 posted on 08/31/2013 6:49:33 PM PDT by tarpit
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>> The one and only reason we are on the verge of war is because the President thought it personally advantageous to rattle the sabers just before the 2012 election.

There’s another reason: Bluelips loves him some muslim brotherhood and will do anything he can to help them.


12 posted on 08/31/2013 6:51:14 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: tarpit

Or the Robin Williams’ routine about Kadaffy:

“This is a ‘Line of Death. You cross it, you die.”

“Ok, you cross THIS line you die.”

“Ok, you cross THIS line you die.”

“This line, you die.”

“OK, you’re knocking on my door, I’m not coming out......Naaaah!”


13 posted on 08/31/2013 6:54:39 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AmericanExceptionalist
For the president to ignore his own "red line," I believe, would make America appear impotent and unserious; and that could have some very serious ramifications in the Middle East. One of those ramifications would be for Iran to interpret the inaction as a green light for it to proceed with its nuclear-weapons program.

It wouldn't be the first time.

We don't support Israeli attack, US tells Iran September 12, 2012

0bama sent a message to Tehran assuring them that the U.S. will do nothing to help Israel.

14 posted on 08/31/2013 7:04:24 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye
I doubt he knows how to spell arrogant narcissist either...



This is MY government and I have the Hat To Prove It!

15 posted on 08/31/2013 7:05:50 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: Joe Boucher
the REAL barack Obama...




16 posted on 08/31/2013 7:05:50 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Block Captain..Tyranny Response Team / al-Kilab Division)
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To: MeshugeMikey

What have arrogant narcissists ever done to deserve being compared with Barack Obama?


17 posted on 08/31/2013 7:06:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Don’t. Worry.

Once Obama came out for gay marriage, 90 percent of the world lost all respect for him and us.

Red lines have been meaningless since then.


18 posted on 08/31/2013 7:08:56 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Innovative

He told them not to call his bluff.


19 posted on 08/31/2013 7:15:31 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Diogenesis

He is so gay. And what’s with the “loping” down the steps off AF One or up onto a stage? I keep hoping he’ll trip over his big feet and bust his butt.


20 posted on 08/31/2013 7:21:04 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (When you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil.)
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