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Washington Free Beacon
U.S.: Al Qaeda-linked Group Behind Benghazi Attack Trains Jihadists for Syrian Rebel Groups
Ansar al-Sharia running training camps in Benghazi and Darnah
U.S. intelligence agencies earlier this month uncovered new evidence that al Qaeda-linked terrorists in Benghazi are training foreign jihadists to fight with Syrias Islamist rebels, according to U.S. officials.
Ansar al-Sharia, the al Qaeda-affiliated militia that U.S. officials say orchestrated the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. diplomatic compound and a CIA facility in Benghazi, is running several training camps for jihadists in Benghazi and nearby Darnah, another port city further east, said officials who discussed some details of the camps on condition of anonymity.
The officials said the terror training camps have been in operation since at least May and are part of a network that funnels foreign fighters to Syrian rebel groups, including the Al-Nusra Front, the most organized of the Islamist rebel groups fighting the Bashar al-Assad regime in Damascus.
Whose side is O on?
Benghazi,, a black op aiding and abetting sworn enemeies?
supported by our own ‘duly elected’ gubamint uhh ‘dirtily elected’ regime?
Israel deploys full missile defenses against Syria: radio
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel is deploying all of its missile defenses as a precaution against possible Syrian retaliatory attacks should Western powers carry out threatened strikes on Syria, Israeli Army Radio said on Wednesday.
Interfax News Wire » Russia News
Representatives of Russia and China leave UN Security Council session on Syria Al Jazeera
BULLETIN RELEASED: 28/08/13 4:42PM GMT :: 20 mins ago
UN-SECURITY/COUNCIL-RUSSIA-CHINA DUBAI. Aug 28 (Interfax) Russian and Chinese representatives have left the UN Security Council session that discussed the draft resolution on Syria proposed by Great Britain,
RT @_RichardHall : UN spokesman says weapons inspectors inside Syria currently have no plans to leave the country before 14 day mandate expi
Bashar Al Assad’s Brother May Have Ordered Last Week’s Chemical Weapons Attack
Maher al Assad.
The reported chemical weapons attack in Syria last week that killed more than 1,000 people and sent the Western world baring down on the conflict may have been ordered by the little brother to Syrian dictator Bashar al Assad, according to a new report from Bloomberg.
Bloomberg cites an unnamed UN official who monitors armed conflicts in the region. The official said that the attack appears to have been a brash act by Maher rather than a strategic decision by the Bashar.
Back in the late Fifties during the Eisenhower days, there were periodic war games involving military and intelligence assets. When situations like this were war-gamed, the confrontation led to a nuclear exchange either immediately or incrementally over a two-week period.
I have no support for Assad, but none for the AlQ rebels, either. We should not be creating false pretexts, but just stay out of it and let them fight it out, IMO.
And how many of us were mocked for thinking he was a muslim?
Huma is Tiqeyya impersonated!
Not only she was “allowed” by Islamists, including her Pakistani mother, to marry a non-Moslem, which is forbidden in Islam, but also a twice-enemy (American and Jewish) of MB!
With Weiner’s shenanigans, she wouldn’t even divorce him because he may become very important as a pervert Democrap!
I hear that Huma has one of the highest clearances in the USA!
Don’t forget the 7-8 WH-appointed MB are pressuring everyone they can, including the MSM, to support the MB everywhere in the world, especially after their defeat in Egypt and their eventual international demise.
That seems normal going into holiday weekend.
Syria envoy alleges rebel gas attack, demands U.N. investigation
UNITED NATIONS - Syria’s U.N. envoy on Wednesday requested that Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon order a U.N. team of chemical experts currently in Damascus to investigate three rebel attacks in which he said Syrian soldiers inhaled poisonous gas.
Ambassador Bashar Ja’afari told reporters he asked Ban “to mandate immediately the investigation team present now in Damascus to investigate three heinous incidents that took place in the countryside of Damascus on the 22nd, 24th and 25th where members of the Syrian army inhaled poisonous gas.”
Syria asks UN to immediately investigate three new chemical attacks by rebels
Syria asks UN to immediately investigate three new chemical attacks by rebels
Published time: August 28, 2013 16:18
The Syrian government demands that the United Nations immediately investigate three alleged chemical attacks carried out by rebel groups out on Damascus outskirts last week, Syrian envoy to the UN says.
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Here is Stratfor’s take. Keep in mind this outfit usually tows the State Dept narrative. This outfit is full of retired State Dept people and Tradecrafters.
Rumors and Disinformation Ahead of a Syria Intervention
August 28, 2013 | 1537 GMT
Amid the flurry of diplomatic, political and military activity taking place as the United States prepares for what now feels like an inevitable punitive strike against the Bashar al Assad regime in Syria, a fog of rumors has emerged concerning the whereabouts of al Assad and about the potential pre-emptive flight of Syrian and Russian officials from the country. Washington itself has leaked information to media sources in hopes of avoiding the mistakes of previous administrations and building a solid case to persuade a skeptical American public of the need for intervention.
It is important to evaluate such reports with a healthy dose of skepticism, but it is equally important not to dismiss them. Understanding the motives behind the deliberate release of disinformation, half-truths and other leaks can help shed light on the situation. The sheer amount of information being produced will obscure the reality on the ground leading up to a potential strike, and the only way to cut through the haze will be to evaluate the totality of it.
A flurry of questionable reports has emerged recently about the al Assad regime. On Aug. 26, Israel’s Channel 2 news reported that families related to some of the top officials in the al Assad regime were “fleeing” the country, flying out of Latakia airport to an unknown location. Then on Aug. 28, a privately owned, little-known Egyptian outlet called al-Nahar, citing a source in the Iranian Foreign Ministry who spoke to Iranian state television, reported that al Assad had arrived at Khomeini airport for an unexpected visit in Tehran on Aug. 27, accompanied by close advisers and members of his family. The report spread rapidly on social media and was quickly picked up by many English-language media sources speculating on the purpose of such a visit. Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Abbas Araqchi quickly denied the report. And on Aug. 28, the generally reliable Al Arabiya media channel cited activists in a report that indicated Syria was vacating key security centers and relocating them in secret locations and next to targets that would attract civilian casualties, such as schools.
These rumors have not yet been substantiated. The reports of al Assad’s sojourn in Iran could be part of an information operation designed to destabilize the regime, or they could simply be the work of an overeager journalist hoping to gain attention with a catchy headline. But if the reports are true, they would be a sign that the Syrian army is losing its cohesion. In that case, reports of defections and Syrian rebels pressing their advantage would be expected. However, if the Al Arabiya report about Syrian forces relocating is true, it would be a sign that the Syrian military is still holding together.
Meanwhile, the Telegraph, among others, reported Aug. 27 that a Russian aircraft had landed in Syria carrying 20 tons of humanitarian aid and that it carried out 100 Russians on the return voyage. That the flight occurred is not in question. Rather, it is unclear who was on the flight; it is probable that Russian citizens were merely vacating the country before a potential U.S. strike, but the presence of high-level Syrian officials and their families aboard cannot be ruled out with the current information.
For its part, the United States has also been using the media to try to shape the narrative of impending military action against Syria. The push began with Secretary of State John Kerry’s strident comments on Aug. 26 and Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel’s subsequent comments that the United States was “ready to go” should President Barack Obama order military action. The administration has not yet released the evidence it claims proves the use of chemical weapons in the country, but there has been an avalanche of leaks about the upcoming strike. NBC News reported that missile strikes against Syria would last three days; The Washington Post indicated that long-range bombers could participate; CNN said Obama wanted to take action before his trip to St. Petersburg for the G-20 summit Sept. 5-6; and The New York Times even published what it claimed was insight on the initial target list.
If the United States were going to attack Syria in any way that would alter the balance of power in the Syrian civil war, it would not be telegraphing such strikes. Obama’s red line on chemical weapons has trapped the United States; it does not want to militarily intervene, but it cannot sit idly by after having been so explicit about what would trigger military action.
These leaks are about the administration telling a war-weary public that this will not be a protracted affair while giving Washington time to try to secure a broad coalition of support at the United Nations or with the Arab League. Neither Russia’s and China’s intransigence on approving a military intervention in Syria nor the Arab League’s ambivalent public statement Aug. 27 bode well for the success of securing such support, but it is important for the administration to show that it exhausted all options before taking action.
In the days leading up to the potential U.S. military strike, rumors about everything from al Assad’s whereabouts to the precise targets the United States means to attack will reverberate louder and louder. Parsing the source and intent behind such information will help clarify the reality on the ground and how events will evolve. Knowing who decided to release it a piece of information and why is just as important as knowing whether it is true.
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“Leaked emails [in the UK] have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria [by rebels] that could be blamed on Assad’s regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country. A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme ‘approved by Washington’ is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons [to form a pretext for military action].”
When this WMD business started, I wrote a post on the Egyptian thread comparing Syria to Rabaa (MB sit-in) in Cairo.
To summarize: the MB called for the West to save them in Egypt. The MB shot their own people in the back and put the bodies in shrouds for the cameras. They staged demonstrations with actors to be videotaped “being killed and injured” to spread in the West. The video is also on the Egyptian thread. When the sit-in was broken up, the MB claimed 2,000 dead and 100,000 injured in a couple of hours. So far, the number killed in Egypt is around a thousand! Just didn’t work for the MB!
The MB tried to do the same thing in Syria. It wasn’t good enough. They needed to cross 0b0z0’s red-ass line. They tried six month ago, 0b0z0 looked the other way when a little WMD was used by the MB.
NEXT, A BIG ONE TO FORCE EVERYONE TO ATTACK ASSAD WAS REQUIRED!
What is written in your post agrees with the “NEED FOR A PRETEXT!” I also posted at the time that AQ and MB LOVE ANNIVERSARIES!
What would be a better anniversary than 0b0z0’s announcement of his red-ass line?
On that anniversary, the WMD was released by the MB in Syria!
Syrian rebels use toxic chemicals against govt troops near Damascus - state media
Published time: August 24, 2013 10:12
Edited time: August 24, 2013 18:40
Syrian rebels have used chemical weapons against regime forces in the Damascus suburb of Jobar, where soldiers discovered stockpiles of toxic poisoning antidotes, state media reports.
According to SANA citing an official source suffocation cases among army soldiers have been reported.
The source told the agency that army unit pushed into the area, where soldiers were attacked, and seized a warehouse containing material labeled Made in KSA as well as a large number of protective masks.
In addition, the army discovered a stockpile of chemical poisoning antidotes with The Qatari-German Company for Pharmaceutical Industries label on them.
Clashes have been reported between rebels and regime forces in Jobar.
That’s a whole lot of words for Stratfor to say “We don’t know either...”
O giving arms and ammo to both side? Let Allah sort Em out !
See? Ask and ye shall receive. LOL
But, in a sense, if the US Regime attacks the Syrian regime, at a minimum it is Muslim-directed killing of Muslims.
That’s why they are a think tank where all useless desk jockeys go when put out to pasture LOL
OPERATION DESERT CLOWN
OPERATION DESERT CLOWN
OPERATION DESERT CLOWN
That’s taking ‘Diversity’ to a new low.. O is a criminal party in the eyes of the ICJ.. but.. his Nobel gives him a free pass.
sadly, his constituencies will not be immune to the coming doom that awaits us all if he is allowed to continue to act with impunity.
'The sole beneficiary'... of this use of poison gas against civilians 'in rebel-held territory' are the rebels and of course the Muslim Brotherhood's behind this...you are correct but until the people see this is the Brotherhood and understand who they are it will always be how the press presents the "picture".
Assad has nothing to gain by gasing his own people....Syria is playing out with the same characters we saw in Egypt....Muslim Brotherhood is on a roll of anger now and would love to see the US fight for them....Al-queda is all for the US intervention in Syria....
these people are such masters of deceit, mis-direction and falsehoods. You can’t believe anything.
From earlier today, but it belongs here:
Setting up is an understatement.
Syria: Thousands Suffering Neurotoxic Symptoms Treated in Hospitals Supported by MSF
Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:04:50 AM · 13 of 13
MestaMachine to ScaniaBoy
Guess what. EVERY single image of the tunnels which were in a guardian story that I POSTED MYSELF are gone along with the same various images on other news sites, including cnn, that speaks to the tunnels under Damascus suburbs. SOME small snippets remain on a few videos, but all they show is the entrance to one tunnel.
is the closest set of vids I can find now and all the stories under the tunnel headline have changed including the one I posted. The western press now only showing dead bodies in place of the images that showed the tunnels. This is quite amazing.
This development convinces me even more that assad did not do this. They are setting up rhe news stories to conform to what the regime is saying, and doing the same in Britain.
Good vids here.
Gotta rest now. BBL
Here’s why I don’t think this is a clear cut case for minding our own business: There’s “international law” stating that chemical weapons use is illegal. If Assad did do it, and gets away with it, then “international law” is void. We can debate the validity of such globalist garbage, but has things are, there really is not choice but to act in some way. It would have been nice is 0 hadn’t been playing so much golf and been engaged the last two years. We do need to find out who used them, but now that they’ve been used, the option to sit and watch is off the table. It sucks.
Stratfor takes what other prople research, changes a few words here and there and you are right. They don’t say anything we don’t already know. ESPECIALLY HERE.
FYI, started a new file to dump information into:
Obama Attacks Syria
‘Desperate’ Assad could use chemical weapons in Syria, says Hillary Clinton
The United States is worried that an increasingly desperate Bashar al-Assad could resort to the use of chemical weapons in Syria, or lose control of them, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday.
2:52PM GMT 05 Dec 2012
After a meeting of Nato foreign ministers at which the Western military alliance agreed to send Patriot anti-missile batteries to Syria’s neighbour, Turkey, Clinton said Washington had made clear to Syria that use of chemical weapons would be a “red line” for the United States.
“Our concerns are that an increasingly desperate Assad regime might turn to chemical weapons, or might lose control of them to one of the many groups that are now operating within Syria,” Clinton told a news conference.
“And so as part of the absolute unity that we all have on this issue we have sent an unmistakable message that this would cross a red line and those responsible would be held to account.”
Saying a political transition in Syria needed to start as soon as possible, Clinton said the United States would do what it could to support the Syrian opposition, now that a new opposition coalition has been formed.
Syrian President Assad Regarded As a Reformer, Clinton Says
March 28, 2011
Doing the round of Sunday television talk shows with Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Clinton told CBSs Face the Nation that the U.S. would not enter the conflict in Syria as it has in Libya.
No, she said. Each of these situations is unique.
While saying the administration deplored the violence in Syria, she contrasted the situation to that of Libya.
Whats been happening there [in Syria] the last few weeks is deeply concerning, but theres a difference between calling out aircraft and indiscriminately strafing and bombing your own cities and then police actions, which, frankly, have exceeded the use of force that any of us would want to see.
Clinton described Muammar Gaddafi as someone who has behaved in a way that caused grave concern in the past 40-plus years in the Arab world, the African world, Europe, and the United States.
CBS newsman Bob Schieffer, the interviewer, noted that the presidents father, Hafez Assad, had killed 25,000 people at a lick a reference to the crushing of an Islamist revolt in the town of Hama in 1982 and said the regime now was firing at civilians with live ammunition.
Why is that different from Libya? he asked.
Theres a different leader in Syria now, Clinton said. Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe hes a reformer.
Following Syria’s Devastating Chemical Weapons Attack, Will Media Remember Hillary’s Touting of ‘Reformer’ Assad?
“....Rather than waste all this money on an attack which will produce little damage,.... why not just have Kerry go to Damascus and give Assad a noogie, swirlee, or a, racially insensitve, indian rope burn. That way, Obama can say the gas attack did not go unanswered.”....
“how many of us were mocked for thinking he was a muslim?”
A lot, and most of us say, he is a pro Muslim Brotherhood wanna bee.
The idea behind ObOZO’s, Britain and France’s foolish move..and why no one in Congress is standing against this.....they “believe” taking out Assad will break the bond between Iran and Syria.....fools because the MBS are waiting and prepared to take over Syria and then we’ll see Syria in the hands of the Brotherhood terrorists.
But his isn’t just about Assad....These are an Alawite people who will be killed if ASSAD loses...and so won’t Christians...the MBS will terrorize and kill them ASAP.
Posted Aug 28, 2013
The website of the New York Times was down again today after what appears to be an attack by the Syrian Electronic Army. The hackers have been behind multiple website attacks recently and appeared to claim responsibility for shutting down the Times.
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Britain proposes Syria resolution; Russia objects
Posted: Aug 28, 2013 10:41 AM CST Updated: Aug 28, 2013 12:17 PM CST
By ALEXANDRA OLSON and PETER JAMES SPIELMANN
UNITED NATIONS (AP) - The five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council failed to reach an agreement Wednesday on a British-proposed resolution that would authorize the use of military force against Syria.
The draft resolution - if it were to be put to a vote - would almost certainly be vetoed by Russia and China, which have blocked past attempts to sanction President Bashar Assad’s regime.
Britain put forth the proposal Wednesday as momentum seemed to be building among Western allies for a strike against Syria. U.S. officials, including Vice President Joe Biden, have charged that Assad’s government used deadly chemical weapons near Damascus last week.
The U.S. has not presented concrete proof, and U.N. inspectors currently in Syria to investigate alleged chemical attacks have not endorsed the allegations.
After the ambassadors met for a couple of hours at U.N. headquarters, the draft resolution was being sent back to their governments for consultations, according to a Western diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions were private.
The diplomat said Russia reiterated its objections to international intervention in the Syrian crisis.
U.S. Ambassador Samantha Power and British Ambassador Mark Lyall Grant left the meeting without commenting to reporters.
JAPAN PM SAYS SITUATION IN SYRIA IS FAULT OF ASSAD.....
The axes are thus set once again:
US, UK, Europe and Japan vs. Russia and China.
Rambozo was a Dead Kennedys song.
That’s actually a LOT of humor.
TITLE: (AFP) - Intercepted call proves Syria used chemical weapons
“US intelligence intercepted a panicked phone call between Syrian army officials shortly after the chemical weapons attack on civilians in a suburb of Damascus on August 21, according to the magazine Foreign Policy.”
From annihilation at home 30 years ago when they challenged the iron-fisted rule of Hafez al-Assad, the Brotherhood has recovered to become the dominant force of the exile opposition in the revolt against his son Bashar Assad